Am I in a minority of 1 in thinking PP got a raw deal at The Valley?
I thought that with the resources he had at his disposal at the time, he was doing a good job.
Granted, the football being served up wasn't a lot of fun to watch, but I believe we'd be playing Championship football already if he'd kept his position.
Hope the fella turns it around at Bradford, I thought he was a decent, genuine bloke who deserved more loyalty from our Board.
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Yes, he was doing a good job.
No, I don't think we would be up by now if he'd have stayed.
We weren't fun to watch.
I think the board have, so far, been fully vindicated by their decision.
The Valley needed a real spring clean, but I wish Phil all the best.
But: shouldn't have got the job in the first place, football was not particularly good to watch, tactically questionable and there is no way we'd be in the Championship now if he'd stayed.
Wish him well at Bradford, it is a tough gig up there but he seems to have stabilised them and they look like they'll avoid the drop.
SCP
We have to move on and accept he divided opinion
It will turn in to a bitches fest I would put my house on it
I attended the xmas aways at Colchester 3-3 and Brighton 1-1.
Both draws against 10 man opposition. Indeed if the legendary Radostin Kishishev could finish we would have lost at the death at the Withdean! Parky's best chance clearly the inaugural league one campaign when the lack of a decent striker did for him. Blimey how empty did one feel leaving the Valley after losing to Swindon in that play-off semi-final
Good manager - yes
Bad Timing/Bad luck- yes
Parkinson respect - absolutely
Can kind of see why though. Very polarising subject, plenty to both sides and full of What If... scenarios.
My take is that Parkinson was the managerial equivalent of a life support machine. Without him, who knows what would have happened. He stopped the rot from a series of awful managers, restored somewhat of a discipline and harmony to the changing rooms and in fairness was painfully unlucky never to see that scenario of winning promotion from League One like he was close to doing in 09/10 and probably would have had a fair shout at, at least via the play-offs, in 10/11 no matter what is said of that squad. They were top six for a good while.
On the other hand... not a single Addicks fan, whether cynic or sympathiser, with the benefit of hindsight would want him here now over Chris Powell. His sacking and Slater's contradictory reasoning may have been harsh, but it had to be done and is often the case with new chairmen. They don't want any authority on board with seniority of tenure over them. And what the current squad has done and could possibly do in the future to me outweighs anything Parkinson could have done, perhaps even if he was blessed with funds.
My stance is a genuine thank-you for all he did, a derisory snort towards those who scoff at what he did, and a general feeling of relief that those What If's regarding had he stayed are just that.
He is currently shoring up the problems at Bradford as he did with us, and I hope he gets them up to League One (though I'd be shocked if he could manage anything more).
Good manager? - he was OK imho
Bad Timing/Bad luck? - no not really. All managers jobs are in danger when new owners take over and the team was on a downward path when he was sacked
Parkinson respect - yes
Was it time for the club to move on - yes - Parky, for all his good points, was associated with decline - sad to say that he was.
Have we done this to death on here? - yes absolutely
He had a poorer points per game return than pardew in that season and he had already been working with the players as pardews assistant so had the advantage of knowing them
Before he became manager while assistant to pardew he was very close to joining huddersfield as manager but we bumped his salary up to keeep him to stay
He then gets the caretaker managers job and his return as that was beyond pathetic before being given the job full time .....
Therefore thru his own failures to keep us up he then had a right good go at promotion and just missed out and failed to make full use of one of our hottest youngsters in recent times
And then with a reduced budget he patched a team together that he got to a more than decent standing in the league and I think deserved a crack to the end of the season BUT the board gambled on SCP and the rest they say is history
Shafted by Charlton - no way, he would have been handsomely paid and very much involved in one of the worse periods in our history so I'm not gonna wish ill on the man and good luck to him but I just can't believe that relegation season , so farking abysmal
I don't think we would have finished higher than the play offs with Parky last season and doubt we would have won them. I think part of the problem for Parky was the fans. We were totally hacked off with our lot and it meant if things went against us we turned very quickly - I think the board realised that to ease the pressure on players etc... they needed to bring in the right manager who had no negative baggage and could push us on quickly - of course they were hoping it would happen last season.
A positive for Powell would have been the knowledge that he was so loved by fans that he would have less pressure and be given more time and patience and that may have played a part in his selection. It was needed as last season was a major disapointment but we know we really have something special on our hands now which despite our love for the bloke, we couldn't then.
I didn't want Parky to be appointed initially but realised over time in our relegation season that he was addressing some of the issues despite not getting the rquired results. The squad was painfully unbalanced and I think it was an impossible task. I think he did a decent job with the resources he had - we must remember we were up in the automatic places for a spell in the last game of the 2009/10 season so Parky nearly done it and we were in the play off places when he left. He wasn't the best manager in the world but I think we were in good hands. Would I swap him for Powell -that is a stupid question -of course not. But I hold no ill towards Parky and appreciate his efforts for us.
I think it was fine for the new owners to want a new regime but it was very disappointing that they (disingenuously) claimed they were backing him but then sacked him after a bad performance saying it was imperative we fight for the play-offs - true we were having good and indifferent spells but definitely odds on to make the playoffs
With CP in charge, and a resource rich environment, things couldn't have gone better this season.
And 'Whatever Happened to...........' Unless you've been living in a cave you should know or aren't proper Charlton failing which try using Wiki!
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he was a great man, actually spoke very intelligently but you could sense something wasnt right, as if his hands were tied, it was clear he couldnt get in the people he wanted - jason puncheon was practically round the corner from the training ground to sign a contract when parky was told he had to tell them the deal was off coz we were getting that big dubai takeover and they wanted better clientele, same for another big striker, of good pedigree. - it was clear he didnt get his own control over signings and then as the takeover didnt work out he had to work with loans and frees and some like paul benson, the extent to which parky was 100% behind any signing is doubtful given how he was on that day.
He answered any of our questions and was very polite, and from the training and video run through which we were allowed to sit it on, he was a very good and thorough coach so can not be knocked on that front
in my opinion was a good coach in the wrong place and the wrong time, he couldnt truly put any mark on charlton, as much as many people think he was poor, it was purely timing...
though worked out for the best now SCP is here.
will always wish parky the best though!
One good signing - Johnny Jackson. All the rest poor or bad loan signings.
At one time we were playing with the max amount of loan players.
Terrible for team spirit. Getting Chris best thing to happen!