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The week that was - 28th November 1970. QPR 1 Charlton 4

edited November 2007 in General Charlton
28th November 1970. Queens Park Rangers 1 (0) (Leach 89) Charlton Athletic 4 (3) (Treacy 12 82, Kenning 25 41) Loftus Road. Att 14,027.

QPR: Parkes, Clement, Harris, Busby, Hunt, Hazell, Francis, Venables, Leach, McCulloch, Ferguson. Unused sub: Saul.

Charlton: Bellotti, Curtis (Ellis), Bruck, Moore, Went, Reeves, Kenning, Treacy, Plumb, Bond, Peacock.

Referee: D J Lyden (Birmingham)

Shock victory: This victory would rank very highly in Charlton's all-time list of shock wins. It wasn't so much the size of the victory, which was very imprerssive, more the fact that the Addicks hadn't won an away match since the 1-0 win at Norwich on 15th March 1969, a run of 35 matches without a win. On top of that, Charlton had failed to beat QPR home or away since the war and it was their first win at Loftus Road since 1934!
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  • Well I wasnt at this one....but the post was looking kind of empty and I took pity....as you do...
  • me neither i was only a month old
  • Nor me. But I do remember being at the Rectory Field that day, watching Blackheath play somebody or other at egg chasing. Me & my mate wandered into the bar after the game to see the footie scores on the TV. I couldn't believe my eyes as the score came up on the old tele-printer & we both shrieked in very high voices (well, I was younger than 10 at the time) & jumped around like girls hugging one another & punching the air in delight. Ray Treacy was my hero at the time, so I was even more delighted to see that he had got 2 of our goals. The result was just so unexpected that it I just couldn't take it in.
  • Don't worry Pete, the tradition of so-called loyal supporters ignoring Charlton games to go and watch egg-chasing is alive and well 37 years on !
  • edited November 2007
    The funny thing is that I had a Blackheath rugby club season ticket that year (I think it was actually called a "Junior Membership", because rugby had to be different back in those amateur days) long before I ever aspired to a Charlton season ticket.

    Looking back at the team that day, two names stand out: Derek Bellotti & Dietmar Bruck. Two forgotten men, by me at any rate, who played in one of Charlton's most amazing games!! What on earth happened to those two? Does anybody know?
  • edited November 2007
    I was at this one with my dad. we stood in the Loft, right at the front, and got crushed when it all kicked off behind us. We had to climb over the wall on to the pitch perimeter and we were escorted round to the other end along with a whole load of other Charlton fans. This was my first experience of having a 'Wrestlers' Burger. Anyone remember those? Boiled Burgers....Hmmmnnn
  • I was at this game with some mates and I think we were more shocked at half time than the QPR fans. I am not totally sure but if my memory serves me well I seem to remember Mike Kenning hitting what might have been meant as a cross cum shot from wide on the left which ended up in the top corner. He used to play as right winger so what he was doing on the left I’m not sure. I was behind the goal at the opposite end to where the 3 first half goals went in. Might have been the QPR home end near the front I don't remember any trouble though. We were bottom and thought the result was a turning point. It was for QPR they were on the slide and their manager got the boot I think during the season. We were back to our inept selves after that result.

    However I do remember lots of agro when we went there another time, Tommy Docherty was the manager we lost 4 - 0 and kept singing 'who's up Mary Brown' through the whole game. I think it was the only time I have laughed whilst losing, the result seemed academic that day.
  • [cite]Posted By: Valley_McMoist[/cite]I was at this one with my dad. we stood in the Loft, right at the front, and got crushed when it all kicked off behind us. We had to climb over the wall on to the pitch perimeter and we were escorted round to the other end along with a whole load of other Charlton fans. This was my first experience of having a 'Wrestlers' Burger. Anyone remember those? Boiled Burgers....Hmmmnnn

    I remember the Burgers VMc. What were they all about?

    As for the game, I didn't go but I do remember the result which was completely unexpected. It was a depressingly familiar time for Addicks fans each away game. Draws were unexpected let alone wins. If memory serves we didn't win too many more away games that season.
  • edited November 2007
    That was a dull grey & very still Saturday afternoon. I can't stress how well Charlton played as a team and the finishing was superb - particularly remember a pile driver from Mike Kenning - and the extensive celebrations from the team at the final whistle.

    Derek Bellotti was the keeper who we signed from Southend(?). We had a little chant to the tune of a pop song of the time: "Bellotti's not Bonnetti, we can tell, tell, tell......"
    Peter (the Cat) Bonnetti was of course the Chelsea & England keeper - don't mention the 1970 World Cup quarter final v West Germany.

    Other names younger fans might not be familiar with - Denis Bond, a fair haired lightweight ex Spurs reserve, who pottered around midfield without ever doing anything wrong but never really doing anything at all.

    Full back Dietmar Bruck was a a square jawed German with 'crew cut' hair (ask your Dad) who had played in the 1st Div with Coventry. Let's say he was, er, solid.

    Midfielder Alan Ellis was a slight youngster coming through the youth team at the time. He tried hard enough and had some nice touches but lightweight. He had a run of matches eventually before disappearing about the time we were relegated a season or so later.


    Centre forward Dickie, Dickie, Dickie Plumb, signed on a double deal with Cyril Davies from then non-league Yeovil is still talked about in legendary non-goalscoring circles. Famous for the sheer number of times he struck the woodwork compared to the goals he did score.
    Lean & rangy, he must have been the bravest forward I've ever seen with his trademark diving headers. The long defunct 'Kentish Independent' once described him as 'diving in where Angels fear to head'.

    The other players are legends and most people know all about them.



    Not only had we gone on a run of 35 matches without an away win but I'm sure we were bottom of the league (real Div2)at the time.

    After that shock win over QPR ,we were then at home to League leaders Cardiff and after another shock win (2-1 I think), the 2points edged us off the bottom of the league. Next match was against relegation rivals Blackburn and they duly beat us, of course, which dumped us back at the bottom. End of mini revival.



    (I thought I posted this about 6 30pm before I went round my girlfriend's for some food. I came back and saw I couldn't have pressed send. Doh!
  • Brilliant post Oggy. Dickie Plumb eh? The woodwork king.

    This was a spectacularly average Charlton team with players like Bellotti, Ellis, Bond, Bruck and Plumb in it. On the other hand, Curtis, Reeves, Moore, Went, Kenning, Tracey and Peacock were some of the best players we produced during this era.

    Peter Reeves was one of my favourite players of the era who's injury in the following season co-incided with disasterous form which led to us being relegated.
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  • when these old games come up, don't think your only posting to yourselves chaps, its fascinating reading for some of us younger models :-)
  • Yeah, great stuff fellas.
  • That's encouraging, AFKA - but us, ahem, veterans didn't think that the young'uns were that interested in really ancient episodes of all our yesterdays.

    But for us old gits, our eyes glaze over and it's just like we are there all over again.

    That's right, eh Bing, Firmani & McMoist?

    "Bellotti's not Bonnetti we can tell, tell, tell....."

    "Dickie, Dickie Dickie Plumb, Dickie Plumb.....". You can still hear the Covered End ringing in your ears.
    You don't get bloody PrimaDonna fancy dans with names like Dickie Plumb in your precious Premiership, do you?

    ;o)






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  • edited November 2007
    Great post Oggy! And Bing you are spot on about Peter Reeves. For a little guy he really could tackle. He played 200 plus games before the age of about 25 and then his career finished through injury.

    He would have played in the first division sooner rather than later had he not been injured.

    If you youngsters have seen footage of the 66 World Cup win then you will have seen Nobby Stiles. Peter Reeves was our equivalent.
  • Reeves was quality Len. Was it a knee ligament injury that did for him? I remember the relegation season in 71/72. We were having a relatively good season (after two last ditch relegation survivals). He got injured around the end of the year from memory and we fell off a cliff.

    You don't hear anything of him these days but I agree with you that but for his injury, he would have found his natural level in the old First Division. Your comparison with Styles is very good.
  • [cite]Posted By: bingaddick[/cite]Brilliant post Oggy. Dickie Plumb eh? The woodwork king.

    This was a spectacularly average Charlton team with players like Bellotti, Ellis, Bond, Bruck and Plumb in it. On the other hand, Curtis, Reeves, Moore, Went, Kenning, Tracey and Peacock were some of the best players we produced during this era.

    Peter Reeves was one of my favourite players of the era who's injury in the following season co-incided with disasterous form which led to us being relegated.

    Peter Reeves was my boyhood hero and whenever someone puts up their greatest ever Charlton team, I always put in Peter Reeves. His mum used to live next door to my best mate from Primary School and on a Thursday night he used to go and visit his mum. So me and Jim used to be waiting for him by the garden gate and we'd always get an 'alright boys' along with a ruffle of the hair. Many years later, the doorbell rang and much to my pleasure, it was Peter Reeves and he'd come to read the gas meter. Had a brief chat with him and at the time he was a champion crown green bowler and had represented Kent. That was 10-15 years ago. I wonder what he's up to now? Would love to see him as a matchday host down at the Valley. In my eyes, he's an absolute CAFC legend.
  • i used to play cricket for metrogas(late 80's -90's) and when we were based at the avery hill sports ground peter reeves was crown green bowling down there.
    a few of the players used to mention that he was an ex charlton player and i just presumed he'd played a handful of games, how wrong can you be!
    didn't realise he was such a legend .
    he always seemed a friendly bloke in the bar , big smile on his face and always had a tan(not a fake one!)
  • I'll join in the 'Peter Reeves is a legend' fan club.

    His Mum & Dad were dyed in the wall Charlton supporters too.
    Even after Peter had to retire, they still carried on going to most away matches with us on the Lewis' coach.

    Local lad, skippered Charlton Colts to the South East Counties League title (U-18 league for all the London area youth teams of the time) and played for England U-18's, before breaking into the 1st team as a 17 year old.

    He played most of his games alongside centre half Paul 'Wally' Went.
    Wenty was a big strapping lad signed from Leyton Orient as a 17 year old in 1967, for £25,000 - then the British record fee for a teenager. He scored quite a few goals too, mostly headers from corners as you would expect - but he had a blistering shot on him.

    I remember one match about that time (date eludes me, Home & Away will find it) - we were home to Swindon Town and were 0-1 down playing cluelessly (familiar?) when manager Theo Foley put Wenty into midfield with 20 minutes or so remaining. Within minutes, Wenty had equalised with a 25 yarder and 5 minutes later put us ahead with an identical effort. Both goals were stunning! Bobby 'Digger' Hunt - there's a centre forward nobody remembers - made it 3-1 with a few minutes to go and we really had clawed victory from the jaws of defeat against an impressive top half side.

    Wenty was victim of the 1972 relegation purge and was traded to Fulham for £80,000.

    Sorry, went off on an 'eyes glazed over' moment. Where was I?
    Oh yes, Peter Reeves was a legend & so was 'Wally' Went.
  • Hi first post from me.Brother keeps sending links especially to 20yrs ago etc ! The QPR 1-4 prompted me to sign up and post comment as it was a memorable day.
    We stood on the away end at that time it was an open terrace,I reckon a max 200 Charlton fans there,unbelievable result,recall a few skirmishes in Loftus road on the way out followed by a visit to 'Henry Irving' statue ?? I think somewhere near Trafalgar Square ? Dancing round singing Henry..Henry Irving.Never had a clue what that was all about ? Would still welcome enlightenment on Henry Irving & Charlton connection if any ?
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  • edited November 2007
    Sir Henry Irving was a thespian of some renown during the 2nd half of the 19th century who died as a result of a stroke on stage uttering Shakespeare. The Henry Irving statue was erected at the bottom of Charing Cross Road.

    Like your's Pete, the memories I have are of gathering round the statue with many others whenever we crossed London after away matches. I was only young in those days, so I never understood the connection either, but just went along with it as high jinx fun. It was tradition.

    "Henry, Henry Irving, ooh ooh,
    Henry, Henry Irving, ooh, ooh ......"

    We'd also sing it down the Covered End and on the away coaches.

    Later there was a Henry Irving column in 'Voice of the Valley', which no doubt was something to do with our very own supporters director whose posts are familiar on Charlton Life. ;o)
  • Thanks Oggy maybe we had some intellectual 'geezer' in our midst that started all that stuff ?? was obviously lost on me as a trainee hooligan.Its now in later life I become interested in the bigger picture.
  • Statue is still around the corner from Trafalgar Square as far as I know ... many a visit paid there in the 70's after an away game, but like you I don't know why his name was picked up.

    Irving was knighted in 1895, the first actor to be so honoured, and was buried in Westminster Abbey. So if Chrissy Powell gets knighted he won't be the first Charlton connection ;-)
  • This was before my time as I was only 4 but I absolutely adore these posts. Fantastic stories gents. You sure do not get players called Dickie Plumb anymore. Halycon days indeed.

    By the way that QPR team looks very tasty. Hard to imagine they were in Div 2 then. What year did they go up?
  • QPR went up in 67/68 and then down the following season. They were then rebuilding and were promoted again in 72/73.
  • The Statue is still in Charing Cross Road/outside the National Portrait Gallery, when we played at West Ham it was a regular meeting point for some Addick fans who had a beer around there and then caught the tube to Upton Park.
  • Cracker this one for the oldies......
  • I think Sussex Pete is right in that there were not that many of us there ... 6 of them would have been our little lot from Cherry Orchard Estate in Charlton :-)

    With a few notable exceptions we often did not take that many away especially in that rubbish run of no wins, so it was always 'eventful' travelling home ... fortunately at least 25% of the away support tended to be made up of Covered Enders :-)
  • Venables i never knew he played for QPR.
  • Isn't this the match where many of us walked from Charlton to Loftus Road? Can't remember why we did it but many a 'nawty' event took place along the way...
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