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After the Millwall game - club reply to CAST p34, further CAST response p45

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  • shirty5 said:

    Has anyone noticed that this map shows that Charlton fans will be, what looks like them being held at the Antigallon.
  • Budington
    Budington Posts: 178
    Classic nothing response from the trust. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,835
    edited September 12
    Worth highlighting that there are no trains via Greenwich at all. For Greenwich it's a rail replacement bus or the DLR from Lewisham.

    Great timing...

    https://www.nationalrail.co.uk/engineering-works/cst-13-sep-20250913/
  • RedPanda
    RedPanda Posts: 4,982
    We must be the only club in the country who allow this crap. Maybe they'll roll a nice red, no blue carpet out for them on Floyd Road. 

    This feels like it sets the tone for the whole day, again.
  • rananegra
    rananegra Posts: 3,689
    What about those of us getting the train westbound? This sort of ##£@ is why people hate the police. Decent folks inconvenienced so that the Spanners can all go up town for more riots. 
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,832
    JohnnyH2 said:
    "Disappointing" ???

    Probably held a survey to come up with that response.
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,914
    Budington said:
    Classic nothing response from the trust. 
    There will no doubt be a poll though for us to fill in
  • Worth highlighting that there are no trains via Greenwich at all. For Greenwich it's a rail replacement bus or the DLR from Lewisham.

    Great timing...
    If that rail replacement bus is coming from Woolwich then it’s going to have to wait for all the Charlton fans to get off the road first.

  • shirty5 said:

    Has anyone noticed that this map shows that Charlton fans will be, what looks like them being held at the Antigallon.
    Presumably held there until the Millwall fans have been cleared from the station.
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,863
    It should always be Millwall fans getting locked in after a rivalry derby game, even if they are playing at home.

    It's better to put a lion in a cage instead of a red Robin. 

    I don't think much trouble will occur. Even if it does, it will probably just be teens.
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  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,840
    Budington said:
    Classic nothing response from the trust. 
    How do you think they should have responded?
  • bobmunro said:
    Budington said:
    Classic nothing response from the trust. 
    How do you think they should have responded?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXiZHXkG-ac
  • shirty5 said:

    Has anyone noticed that this map shows that Charlton fans will be, what looks like them being held at the Antigallon.
    Presumably held there until the Millwall fans have been cleared from the station.
    I’m impressed that they have gone to the trouble of checking all 3k Millwall fans will be going home via the train 
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,214
    JohnnyH2 said:
    Nothing from the club in terms of comms
    And the same on the match preview but does mention about road closures before the game 

    https://www.charltonafc.com/news/match-preview-charlton-v-millwall


  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,329
    How long will it take for the 3,000 (?) Millwall fans to clear Floyd Road? 
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,214
    Off_it said:
    bobmunro said:
    Budington said:
    Classic nothing response from the trust. 
    How do you think they should have responded?
    How about;

    "We are aware that supporters will feel, quite rightly, aggrieved and disgusted not only by the decision that has been taken, but also the manner and timing of the announcement and the lack of notice that has been given. The Trust has already expressed its dismay at this decision and will be pressing the Club  further in order to fully understand background and basis for the decision making process, as well as the relevant timelines. We will update our members as soon as we have further news on this important matter." 
    Careful now, they will be offering you an honorary position on the trust board for statements like that. 


  • Valleysarr
    Valleysarr Posts: 1,097
    Better than getting a slap .. ? 
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,832
    shirty5 said:
    Off_it said:
    bobmunro said:
    Budington said:
    Classic nothing response from the trust. 
    How do you think they should have responded?
    How about;

    "We are aware that supporters will feel, quite rightly, aggrieved and disgusted not only by the decision that has been taken, but also the manner and timing of the announcement and the lack of notice that has been given. The Trust has already expressed its dismay at this decision and will be pressing the Club  further in order to fully understand background and basis for the decision making process, as well as the relevant timelines. We will update our members as soon as we have further news on this important matter." 
    Careful now, they will be offering you an honorary position on the trust board for statements like that. 


    Nah, I didn't add in any emojis.

    *sad face
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,840
    Off_it said:
    bobmunro said:
    Budington said:
    Classic nothing response from the trust. 
    How do you think they should have responded?
    How about;

    "We are aware that supporters will feel, quite rightly, aggrieved and disgusted not only by the decision that has been taken, but also the manner and timing of the announcement and the lack of notice that has been given. The Trust has already expressed its dismay at this decision and will be pressing the Club  further in order to fully understand background and basis for the decision making process, as well as the relevant timelines. We will update our members as soon as we have further news on this important matter." 
    That directed to the Met Police no doubt.
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  • Valleysarr
    Valleysarr Posts: 1,097
    shirty5 said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    Nothing from the club in terms of comms
    And the same on the match preview but does mention about road closures before the game 

    https://www.charltonafc.com/news/match-preview-charlton-v-millwall


    Out of interest can away fans use Bartrams and the fan zone ? I’ve never been been asked to show a ticket unlike the Rose !
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,975
    shirty5 said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    Nothing from the club in terms of comms
    And the same on the match preview but does mention about road closures before the game 

    https://www.charltonafc.com/news/match-preview-charlton-v-millwall


    Out of interest can away fans use Bartrams and the fan zone ? I’ve never been been asked to show a ticket unlike the Rose !
    They've been doing ticket checks in the fan zone this season
  • shirty5 said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    Nothing from the club in terms of comms
    And the same on the match preview but does mention about road closures before the game 

    https://www.charltonafc.com/news/match-preview-charlton-v-millwall


    Out of interest can away fans use Bartrams and the fan zone ? I’ve never been been asked to show a ticket unlike the Rose !
    Don't see how they can stop them, unless they are obvious away fans...
  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,341
    shirty5 said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    Nothing from the club in terms of comms
    And the same on the match preview but does mention about road closures before the game 

    https://www.charltonafc.com/news/match-preview-charlton-v-millwall


    Out of interest can away fans use Bartrams and the fan zone ? I’ve never been been asked to show a ticket unlike the Rose !
    Don't see how they can stop them, unless they are obvious away fans...
    Same as pubs that have home fans only, you are asked to show your match ticket
  • Off_it said:
    bobmunro said:
    Budington said:
    Classic nothing response from the trust. 
    How do you think they should have responded?
    How about;

    "We are aware that supporters will feel, quite rightly, aggrieved and disgusted not only by the decision that has been taken, but also the manner and timing of the announcement and the lack of notice that has been given. The Trust has already expressed it's dismay at this decision and will be pressing the Club  further in order to fully understand background and basis for the decision making process, as well as the relevant timelines. We will update our members as soon as we have further news on this important matter." 

    This. Rather than trying to put a jolly, positive spin about the tunnel jump.
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,893
    JohnnyH2 said:
    fenaddick said:
    How is it possible that the club and supporter reps have allowed the police to impose this without so much as a whimper? 

    And my brother wondered why I was so insistent on taking the bus from Blackheath ( where I’m staying) to Charlton Village and especially back that way. 

    Saw this coming all the way from Prague. Didn’t you, @castrust? And what about the invisible Fan Advisory Board with its supposed no-nonsense members we voted in? 

    I sometimes think that when we become “football fans” we somehow surrender our right to remind the police that they serve us, and we pay their sodding wages.
    That's a massive assumption. How do you know the club etc. didn't push back?
    Because they would have been told, if you don’t like it you’ll have to restrict ticket sales as in no away support.

    Used to use the mounted to divide the roads so both sets could use. I’m guessing the mounted are all up town dealing with the weekly nonsense by the great unwashed. Blame them not the old bill, only so many of them to police all the football/protests that is happening in the capital on Saturday.
    Why not lock Millwall in, and once the area is cleared let them out, like what would happen at the other 91 grounds for this sort of game?
    is the correct answer - my dad has enough of a struggle walking up and down the hill without having to do a warm up lap of the lower road first and then an inevitable long wait for the station to clear 
  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,341
    Off_it said:
    bobmunro said:
    Budington said:
    Classic nothing response from the trust. 
    How do you think they should have responded?
    How about;

    "We are aware that supporters will feel, quite rightly, aggrieved and disgusted not only by the decision that has been taken, but also the manner and timing of the announcement and the lack of notice that has been given. The Trust has already expressed it's dismay at this decision and will be pressing the Club  further in order to fully understand background and basis for the decision making process, as well as the relevant timelines. We will update our members as soon as we have further news on this important matter." 

    This. Rather than trying to put a jolly, positive spin about the tunnel jump.
    It's what that x account always does, on this occasion they have not read the room
  • shirty5 said:

    Has anyone noticed that this map shows that Charlton fans will be, what looks like them being held at the Antigallon.

    That is a very good spot, it will be interesting to see if this happens.  Perhaps they'll hold us back and allow Charlton fans one carriage per train.
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,893
    edited September 12
    Chizz said:
    Absolutely ridiculous. How on earth are the Millwall fans in the East Stand and Covered End going to be able to get to Floyd Road with their mates? 
    they'll jump the touchline barrier with 5 minutes to go and be escorted into the away end if they haven't already 
  • shirty5 said:

    Has anyone noticed that this map shows that Charlton fans will be, what looks like them being held at the Antigallon.
    Presumably held there until the Millwall fans have been cleared from the station.
    I’m impressed that they have gone to the trouble of checking all 3k Millwall fans will be going home via the train 
    I was wondering this. If you're a Millwall fan who's parked off Woolwich road or up by the cemetery then what?

    Are you herded towards the station regardless?
    Do you have to walk round into all the Charlton fans coming along Woolwich road?
    Will Charlton fans who've done the long walk round be held by the station until all Millwall have gone?