AFKABartram 16 minutes ago quote# 118 [quote][cite]Posted By: ken from bexley[/cite]If you take into account culture and architecture, I would nominate Bexleyheath. [/quote]
If you are going to nominate Bexleyheath as one of the worst towns in the UK then i will assume that you have never been any further than, Bexleyheath !
And it didn't stop you going shopping there with one of your lads two Saturday's ago Ken (i called your name but you were chatting and went straight past me !)
I speak from experience Afka...... The fact that you can't buy bugger all in Bexley Village might have something to do with it!. ( buying a phone for the lad, you wait for it!) Anyway what are you doing out at that time on a Saturday morning! I never went out of the house before 10am when the twins were born!.
I quite like Brixton, certainly has some character about it. Got a mate who lives there so visit quite a lot, never really felt intimidated at any time of the day / night.
For me the worse place I have visited is Leicester.
[cite]Posted By: nichorob[/cite]I quite like Brixton, certainly has some character about it. Got a mate who lives there so visit quite a lot, never really felt intimidated at any time of the day / night.
For me the worse place I have visited is Leicester.
Some people get intimidated by tower blocks & lack of trees! Probably never actually been there or heard of Brockwell Park. Lewisham is one of the greenest borough's in the city (thank you Blackheath!)
[cite]Posted By: Friend Or Defoe[/cite]Leicester is a hole, I used to work there.
But I've had some of the best curries there in my life.
And really cheap if you eat where the 'locals' eat, as long as you don't go to the 'westernised' curry houses.
[cite]Posted By: Friend Or Defoe[/cite]Leicester is a hole, I used to work there.
But I've had some of the best curries there in my life.
And really cheap if you eat where the 'locals' eat, as long as you don't go to the 'westernised' curry houses.
You could get a great pork (cut from the joint in front of you) and apple sauce cob (East Midlandish for large bap) in the high street for about £2.50, also enjoyed some good nights in the small casino there. Perhaps hole was a bit harsh although to be fair most places listed here have their good bits, especially Lewisham! ;-)
[cite]Posted By: Floyd Montana[/cite]Jayajosh
They arent mentioned due to the division caused by the ''London is the greatest/no it isnt'' thread running elsewhere
You are right though, and throw in Deptford and Lewisham in the mix
Incorrect. Have a walk around Telegraph Hill area of New Cross, or around Hillyfields, Granville Park or St Johns in Lewisham and think again. Deptford's not everyone's cup of tea although a significant part of the high street is classified as a conservation area.
The New York Times ran an article last year recommending New Cross and Deptford as tourist destinations:
MrLargo One street does not a nice place make Lets agree to Lewisham town centre. 5 burglaries last month between Granville Park and Lewisham Hill, speaking from first hand experience of one of them.
[cite]Posted By: Floyd Montana[/cite]MrLargo
One street does not a nice place make
Lets agree to Lewisham town centre.
5 burglaries last month between Granville Park and Lewisham Hill, speaking from first hand experience of one of them.
There's tons of nice streets round in Lewisham, I should know, spent the best part of a year looking for a house in the area. The town centre is admittedly a bit drab (although they seem to be spending a few quid on it at the moment) but as soon as you get off the main drag it's fine. There's a bit of crime in the area, but that's the same for pretty much anywhere in London - could easily name you dozens of far worse districys in London.
Talking of Leicester i used to work for a company whose HQ is just north of there in a delightful town called Coalville. The coal mine shut years ago so it was simply known as Doleville - awful, depressing place where I had a brand new car trashed by thieves less than 12 hours after picking it up from the showroom.
A bit drab? I take it you didnt look round at night then? I agree its getting better the more of it they knock down, such at the big pub and kebab shop by the station and the burnt out shell opposite the police station. Lived there on an off since 1960's. Soul destroying place
The main shopping area is surprisingly pretty good, especially the market, you can buy almost anything you need there and it's very cheap. If by town centre you mean the 1960s planning of a crappy shopping centre with a tower block surrounded by 3 main roads then I can see where you're coming from. As MrLargo said, loads of money is getting pumped in to the area, although the gateway project is a bit of a joke.
[quote][cite]Posted By: Floyd Montana[/cite]Jayajosh They arent mentioned due to the division caused by the ''London is the greatest/no it isnt'' thread running elsewhere You are right though, and throw in Deptford and Lewisham in the mix[/quote]
Incorrect. Have a walk around Telegraph Hill area of New Cross, or around Hillyfields, Granville Park or St Johns in Lewisham and think again. Deptford's not everyone's cup of tea although a significant part of the high street is classified as a conservation area.
The New York Times ran an article last year recommending New Cross and Deptford as tourist destinations:
The new york times!..... So a yank stringer roughs it up on a Saturday night and does a couple of trendy bars!......
Pity they did not go to the venue, they would have seen a more contemporary slice of life, just keep walking up the road to Peckham, that will give them something to write home about!........
Yes Hillyfields is a nice pleasant spot, but that was in Lewisham borough when my wife lived there, and called Brockley!. She was born there, and her family came from there.I lived in Manor Avenue , having moved from Blackheath, and yes I enjoyed living there, the community was very friendly, and there was good atmosphere about the place. But that was 30 years ago, and another world probably. I know a couple of designers and illustrators who still live there and they love it!.
Given a choice I would swap 70s Brockley for present day Bexleyheath and most of the surrounding areas to be honest!
Algarv, I've been misunderstood 1 I've never been interested in other people's sex lives. It's the provocative arrogance of the Brighton gays which finally upset me, because there are so many of them. If that makes me homophobic, fair enough. 2 As you've done, I mentioned the distinction to be made between various town districts. In fact, I meant you cannot consider a city crap because some districts are crap. 3 I'm not too savvy on art, but I love history. In most of the "worst" towns mentioned, we know we could always find some historical attraction, Brussels included, but their buildings, the 2 Midi stations' districts and the near suburbs are depressing. 4 First time ever I've been mentioned in a same sentence with the Queen. Cheers mate.
Look at Detroit Michigan Usa on Youtube, one of the richest cities (now no longer)in the World is now resembling a landfill site in some parts. It's actually very sad in the older meaning of the word.
Yeah but the huge urban flight in Detroit has led to block's being bulldozed, which multiple plots have then been offered by the city to individuals predominantly 25-40 year olds to use as small-holdings. Sure there is huge urban decay in Detroit but any interesting city needs spaces which provide low cost housing or at least the potential for it. London in the last ten years has become quite the most boring city in the world where the locals are pushed to the margin and the only shops are for ponces dresssed in a Banarama nightmare. Carnaby or Hoxton Square were places with businesses operated by individuals, now it's full of yba's or the same tired shit you get anywhere.
The best cities aesthetically are those where you can touch or are close to the countryside. Adelaide, may be boring at times but is one of the most visually stunning Western cities I've been to. London is set for a very boring few decades, where only the idle rich can create.
Strood? Have a laugh. It's average as sin, but compared to Chatham well..... Chatham had 500 years of the economic buzz of a Naval yard, yet the locals managed to leave their mark on erm teenage pregnancy and prostitution. Give a child but seven years in Chatham and they'll most likely turn into scum. Chatham's Luton is even worse than Luton.
UK:
Most of the towns that L2 football teams are based in, and most of L1 come to that.
Abroad:
Milan, outside the expensive city centre it's a desolate jungle of concrete and cement
Mannheim - being bombed to bits in WWII only improved the place.
If you decide to fly to gibraltar rather than malaga en route to the costa del sol, then you will think think that you are in portsmouth in the med. A truly ugly place, full of tower blocks with very rough people. A bit like la linea on the spanish side which is equally as freakish.
Strood? Have a laugh. It's average as sin, but compared to Chatham well..... Chatham had 500 years of the economic buzz of a Naval yard, yet the locals managed to leave their mark on erm teenage pregnancy and prostitution. Give a child but seven years in Chatham and they'll most likely turn into scum. Chatham's Luton is even worse than Luton.
Luton is not a town though, I fully agree though that place is outright dangerous to go on foot!
Chatham is a big place though, the town centre, White Road Estate, Luton, and all the streets that surround the station are prime pickings for Jeremy Kyle but there are good parts, not many, but there are enough to make me refrain from dropping it onto my list.
Aberdeen is a good call, Dunkirk is a hostile place, as are most townships in France.
Kosovo is a state/province/independent country
I've just remembered how much of a dump Slough is too
[cite]Posted By: Friend Or Defoe[/cite]Leicester is a hole, I used to work there.
But I've had some of the best curries there in my life.
And really cheap if you eat where the 'locals' eat, as long as you don't go to the 'westernised' curry houses.
My sister is studying medicine in Leicester, 1st night she went over she was being followed by some youths and had to get a random stranger to walk her home, since then I don't think she has had any trouble, don't see her going back once she's finished though, best thing she said is the really cheap curry over there.
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[quote][cite]Posted By: ken from bexley[/cite]If you take into account culture and architecture, I would nominate Bexleyheath.
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If you are going to nominate Bexleyheath as one of the worst towns in the UK then i will assume that you have never been any further than, Bexleyheath !
And it didn't stop you going shopping there with one of your lads two Saturday's ago Ken (i called your name but you were chatting and went straight past me !)
I speak from experience Afka...... The fact that you can't buy bugger all in Bexley Village might have something to do with it!. ( buying a phone for the lad, you wait for it!)
Anyway what are you doing out at that time on a Saturday morning! I never went out of the house before 10am when the twins were born!.
You should have introduced yourself, mate!
Hackney too
For me the worse place I have visited is Leicester.
Leicester is a hole, I used to work there.
But I've had some of the best curries there in my life.
And really cheap if you eat where the 'locals' eat, as long as you don't go to the 'westernised' curry houses.
Incorrect. Have a walk around Telegraph Hill area of New Cross, or around Hillyfields, Granville Park or St Johns in Lewisham and think again. Deptford's not everyone's cup of tea although a significant part of the high street is classified as a conservation area.
The New York Times ran an article last year recommending New Cross and Deptford as tourist destinations:
http://www.thelondonpaper.com/thelondonpaper/news/london/deptford-and-new-cross-get-thumbs-up-from-new-york-times
One street does not a nice place make
Lets agree to Lewisham town centre.
5 burglaries last month between Granville Park and Lewisham Hill, speaking from first hand experience of one of them.
There's tons of nice streets round in Lewisham, I should know, spent the best part of a year looking for a house in the area. The town centre is admittedly a bit drab (although they seem to be spending a few quid on it at the moment) but as soon as you get off the main drag it's fine. There's a bit of crime in the area, but that's the same for pretty much anywhere in London - could easily name you dozens of far worse districys in London.
I take it you didnt look round at night then?
I agree its getting better the more of it they knock down, such at the big pub and kebab shop by the station and the burnt out shell opposite the police station.
Lived there on an off since 1960's. Soul destroying place
They arent mentioned due to the division caused by the ''London is the greatest/no it isnt'' thread running elsewhere
You are right though, and throw in Deptford and Lewisham in the mix[/quote]
Incorrect. Have a walk around Telegraph Hill area of New Cross, or around Hillyfields, Granville Park or St Johns in Lewisham and think again. Deptford's not everyone's cup of tea although a significant part of the high street is classified as a conservation area.
The New York Times ran an article last year recommending New Cross and Deptford as tourist destinations:
http://www.thelondonpaper.com/thelondonpaper/news/london/deptford-and-new-cross-get-thumbs-up-from-new-york-times
The new york times!..... So a yank stringer roughs it up on a Saturday night and does a couple of trendy bars!......
Pity they did not go to the venue, they would have seen a more contemporary slice of life, just keep walking up the road to Peckham, that will give them something to write home about!........
Yes Hillyfields is a nice pleasant spot, but that was in Lewisham borough when my wife lived there, and called Brockley!.
She was born there, and her family came from there.I lived in Manor Avenue , having moved from Blackheath, and yes I enjoyed living there, the community was very friendly, and there was good atmosphere about the place. But that was 30 years ago, and another world probably. I know a couple of designers and illustrators who still live there and they love it!.
Given a choice I would swap 70s Brockley for present day Bexleyheath and most of the surrounding areas to be honest!
1 I've never been interested in other people's sex lives. It's the provocative arrogance of the Brighton gays which finally upset me, because there are so many
of them. If that makes me homophobic, fair enough.
2 As you've done, I mentioned the distinction to be made between various town districts. In fact, I meant you cannot consider a city crap because some districts
are crap.
3 I'm not too savvy on art, but I love history. In most of the "worst" towns mentioned, we know we could always find some historical attraction, Brussels
included, but their buildings, the 2 Midi stations' districts and the near suburbs are depressing.
4 First time ever I've been mentioned in a same sentence with the Queen. Cheers mate.
I thought you'd been to Brighton, Adrian?
No shortage of Queens in Brighton.
The best cities aesthetically are those where you can touch or are close to the countryside. Adelaide, may be boring at times but is one of the most visually stunning Western cities I've been to. London is set for a very boring few decades, where only the idle rich can create.
Strood? Have a laugh. It's average as sin, but compared to Chatham well..... Chatham had 500 years of the economic buzz of a Naval yard, yet the locals managed to leave their mark on erm teenage pregnancy and prostitution. Give a child but seven years in Chatham and they'll most likely turn into scum. Chatham's Luton is even worse than Luton.
Yeovil
Colywn Bay
Most of the towns that L2 football teams are based in, and most of L1 come to that.
Abroad:
Milan, outside the expensive city centre it's a desolate jungle of concrete and cement
Mannheim - being bombed to bits in WWII only improved the place.
Oulu - Finland. Nokia factory and scag heads. That's it.
Aberdeen
North Ferriby
Wigan
Luton is not a town though, I fully agree though that place is outright dangerous to go on foot!
Chatham is a big place though, the town centre, White Road Estate, Luton, and all the streets that surround the station are prime pickings for Jeremy Kyle but there are good parts, not many, but there are enough to make me refrain from dropping it onto my list.
Aberdeen is a good call, Dunkirk is a hostile place, as are most townships in France.
Kosovo is a state/province/independent country
I've just remembered how much of a dump Slough is too
Paris is somewhere I did not like at all.
Portsmouth