Anyone even mentioning yann and Taylor in the same sentence needs their head checked... That's not even remotely sentimental. Taylor was class but yann was the best we've had since bent. Imagine Yann and Darren Bent up top!
Just caught up with the thread and looks like I started the Yann debate. Of course Yann was the better player and I hadn't forgotten him when I said Taylor was the best striker since Bent.
To me striker means goalscorer. Yann was a target man, who scored the odd goal. Taylor was an out and out striker. BWP was a striker but not in Taylor class.
Noticed today that he was getting a little bit of pelters on the socials. So thought I'd look at the Forest forum to see what the general consensus was.
Sounds like they are crying out for a striker, and don't see Lyle as that person. Indeed a lot of comments were in similar vain to this:
'Taylor - Vintage Lyle performance. Came on, almost got into a full sprint, fell over trying to con a free kick and waved his hands around a bit. He's a better public speaker than a footballer.'
Interesting to see why it is he has dropped from our talisman to Forests bit part player. Has he regressed to the mean, did Bowyer build the team around him and know how to get the best out of him, has he got his big money move and does not care anymore?
Anyone even mentioning yann and Taylor in the same sentence needs their head checked... That's not even remotely sentimental. Taylor was class but yann was the best we've had since bent. Imagine Yann and Darren Bent up top!
Just caught up with the thread and looks like I started the Yann debate. Of course Yann was the better player and I hadn't forgotten him when I said Taylor was the best striker since Bent.
To me striker means goalscorer. Yann was a target man, who scored the odd goal. Taylor was an out and out striker. BWP was a striker but not in Taylor class.
32 goals in 96 games was more than just the odd goal for Yann
Noticed today that he was getting a little bit of pelters on the socials. So thought I'd look at the Forest forum to see what the general consensus was.
Sounds like they are crying out for a striker, and don't see Lyle as that person. Indeed a lot of comments were in similar vain to this:
'Taylor - Vintage Lyle performance. Came on, almost got into a full sprint, fell over trying to con a free kick and waved his hands around a bit. He's a better public speaker than a footballer.'
Interesting to see why it is he has dropped from our talisman to Forests bit part player. Has he regressed to the mean, did Bowyer build the team around him and know how to get the best out of him, has he got his big money move and does not care anymore?
Shhh- don’t give Bowyer any credit on here !
In all seriousness, we built a team around him and he was excellent for us . Some players need to be the main man to really thrive - like Parker with us and West Ham.
I am pretty sure it is this and he’s openly come out and said as much before. He ‘worked hard so he could get his pay check’ No real interest in football past that.
He has it now. No need to try anymore. Surprised Houghton has stuck with him this long. We saw him at his best.
Just had a look at how his stats. 4 goals in 31 games. They seem to have given up on him now as 20 minutes from the bench is around what he’s playing these days.
Always difficult to gauge an overall fans perspective on Twitter, but Forest fans after last night just can’t figure out why he’s changed. They said when he first got there he was hungry and always looking for the ball, now he spends most of time on the floor and has poor attitude.
Just had a look at how his stats. 4 goals in 31 games. They seem to have given up on him now as 20 minutes from the bench is around what he’s playing these days.
Always difficult to gauge an overall fans perspective on Twitter, but Forest fans after last night just can’t figure out why he’s changed. They said when he first got there he was hungry and always looking for the ball, now he spends most of time on the floor and has poor attitude.
He hasn't started a game since the 15th of December and they've since brought in Murray so I'd be surprised if he started another game this season
I think there's a good chance of him being shipped out this summer and with that record as a 31 year old he'll struggle to find a championship club imo
It happens in football. Sometimes you just click somewhere and go through a brief period of being brilliant, move on and find that you were just in a great moment rather than a great player. Danny Graham was a great example of this. Middling career when he was young, and a couple of decent seasons at Carlisle got him a move to Watford. He had one good, one brilliant season there before he got a move to the Premier League with Swansea, started alright and then went to pieces. It took him 5 years before he scored more than 10 goals in a season again after getting a grand total of 2 Premier League goals in 3 years after leaving Swansea. Lyle was the same; struggled to make an impact at the start of his career, decent at Wimbledon, excellent for us, collapse. I'm sure he's happy with his £20,000 a week until 2022. There will definitely be frustration that he isn't making an impact there but I doubt there's any regret on his part. He was always leaving the second Southall walked through the door and there's nothing that could change that.
He hasn't started a game since the 15th of December and they've since brought in Murray so I'd be surprised if he started another game this season
I think there's a good chance of him being shipped out this summer and with that record as a 31 year old he'll struggle to find a championship club imo
I wonder if Bowyer would take him back as part of the summer rebuild? I personally wouldn’t want him back but I wonder if Bowyer feels he was so important that he can overlook what happened.
He hasn't started a game since the 15th of December and they've since brought in Murray so I'd be surprised if he started another game this season
I think there's a good chance of him being shipped out this summer and with that record as a 31 year old he'll struggle to find a championship club imo
I wonder if Bowyer would take him back as part of the summer rebuild? I personally wouldn’t want him back but I wonder if Bowyer feels he was so important that he can overlook what happened.
I'd hope not. Even forgetting the fact that he let us down more than any other player I can remember, he just wouldn't have the same drive that made him the player he was.
He hasn't started a game since the 15th of December and they've since brought in Murray so I'd be surprised if he started another game this season
I think there's a good chance of him being shipped out this summer and with that record as a 31 year old he'll struggle to find a championship club imo
shipped out where though, who's gonna pay him what Forest are !
It happens in football. Sometimes you just click somewhere and go through a brief period of being brilliant, move on and find that you were just in a great moment rather than a great player. Danny Graham was a great example of this. Middling career when he was young, and a couple of decent seasons at Carlisle got him a move to Watford. He had one good, one brilliant season there before he got a move to the Premier League with Swansea, started alright and then went to pieces. It took him 5 years before he scored more than 10 goals in a season again after getting a grand total of 2 Premier League goals in 3 years after leaving Swansea. Lyle was the same; struggled to make an impact at the start of his career, decent at Wimbledon, excellent for us, collapse. I'm sure he's happy with his £20,000 a week until 2022. There will definitely be frustration that he isn't making an impact there but I doubt there's any regret on his part. He was always leaving the second Southall walked through the door and there's nothing that could change that.
This is very true - from watching The Big Match Revisited, I noticed Alfie Conn who played for Spurs - very good player, but drifted away it seems and ended up with a career of only 233 league appearances (incl in the NASL) and 57 goals - Spurs fans called him the ‘King of White Hart Lane’ and from his play I have seen on the telly, should have had way more games and goals than he did
I don’t know if injury blighted his career though, maybe that was the reason
Always difficult to gauge an overall fans perspective on Twitter, but Forest fans after last night just can’t figure out why he’s changed.
Frustration & confidence - mainly in the manager. It must be disheartening to be on the bench every week & only coming on in the last 15/30 mins when you are chasing the game. That is not his style. He is used to being the main man - the focal point.
However, never has the saying "be careful for what you wish for" been so true. Taylor is a good League 1 player & an average Championship player. He is a handful but not a prolific striker. He has got what he wanted in terms of a "big money" move - it's for him to decide whether that is more important than playing every week & being adored by his fans. He can always ask for a transfer in the summer to somewhere more suitable.
Always difficult to gauge an overall fans perspective on Twitter, but Forest fans after last night just can’t figure out why he’s changed.
Frustration & confidence - mainly in the manager. It must be disheartening to be on the bench every week & only coming on in the last 15/30 mins when you are chasing the game. That is not his style. He is used to being the main man - the focal point.
However, never has the saying "be careful for what you wish for" been so true. Taylor is a good League 1 player & an average Championship player. He is a handful but not a prolific striker. He has got what he wanted in terms of a "big money" move - it's for him to decide whether that is more important than playing every week & being adored by his fans. He can always ask for a transfer in the summer to somewhere more suitable.
Maybe he’ll give his financial adviser some money to invest for him , to look after his future or maybe he’ll ask the adviser to invest the love of the fans he received and see what return that gets him 🤷♂️
Christ, anyone who thinks Taylor is a better player then Yann is on the wind up. Ask Bournemouth supporters about Yann and they go as weak at the knees over him as we do
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To me striker means goalscorer. Yann was a target man, who scored the odd goal. Taylor was an out and out striker. BWP was a striker but not in Taylor class.
Sounds like they are crying out for a striker, and don't see Lyle as that person. Indeed a lot of comments were in similar vain to this:
'Taylor - Vintage Lyle performance. Came on, almost got into a full sprint, fell over trying to con a free kick and waved his hands around a bit. He's a better public speaker than a footballer.'
Interesting to see why it is he has dropped from our talisman to Forests bit part player. Has he regressed to the mean, did Bowyer build the team around him and know how to get the best out of him, has he got his big money move and does not care anymore?
In all seriousness, we built a team around him and he was excellent for us . Some players need to be the main man to really thrive - like Parker with us and West Ham.
He has it now. No need to try anymore. Surprised Houghton has stuck with him this long. We saw him at his best.
I think there's a good chance of him being shipped out this summer and with that record as a 31 year old he'll struggle to find a championship club imo
I personally wouldn’t want him back but I wonder if Bowyer feels he was so important that he can overlook what happened.
I don’t know if injury blighted his career though, maybe that was the reason
However, never has the saying "be careful for what you wish for" been so true. Taylor is a good League 1 player & an average Championship player. He is a handful but not a prolific striker. He has got what he wanted in terms of a "big money" move - it's for him to decide whether that is more important than playing every week & being adored by his fans. He can always ask for a transfer in the summer to somewhere more suitable.
or maybe he’ll ask the adviser to invest the love of the fans he received and see what return that gets him 🤷♂️