I am pretty sure it is this and he’s openly come out and said as much before. He ‘worked hard so he could get his pay check’ No real interest in football past that.
He has it now. No need to try anymore. Surprised Houghton has stuck with him this long. We saw him at his best.
Just had a look at how his stats. 4 goals in 31 games. They seem to have given up on him now as 20 minutes from the bench is around what he’s playing these days.
Always difficult to gauge an overall fans perspective on Twitter, but Forest fans after last night just can’t figure out why he’s changed. They said when he first got there he was hungry and always looking for the ball, now he spends most of time on the floor and has poor attitude.
Just had a look at how his stats. 4 goals in 31 games. They seem to have given up on him now as 20 minutes from the bench is around what he’s playing these days.
Always difficult to gauge an overall fans perspective on Twitter, but Forest fans after last night just can’t figure out why he’s changed. They said when he first got there he was hungry and always looking for the ball, now he spends most of time on the floor and has poor attitude.
He hasn't started a game since the 15th of December and they've since brought in Murray so I'd be surprised if he started another game this season
I think there's a good chance of him being shipped out this summer and with that record as a 31 year old he'll struggle to find a championship club imo
It happens in football. Sometimes you just click somewhere and go through a brief period of being brilliant, move on and find that you were just in a great moment rather than a great player. Danny Graham was a great example of this. Middling career when he was young, and a couple of decent seasons at Carlisle got him a move to Watford. He had one good, one brilliant season there before he got a move to the Premier League with Swansea, started alright and then went to pieces. It took him 5 years before he scored more than 10 goals in a season again after getting a grand total of 2 Premier League goals in 3 years after leaving Swansea. Lyle was the same; struggled to make an impact at the start of his career, decent at Wimbledon, excellent for us, collapse. I'm sure he's happy with his £20,000 a week until 2022. There will definitely be frustration that he isn't making an impact there but I doubt there's any regret on his part. He was always leaving the second Southall walked through the door and there's nothing that could change that.
He hasn't started a game since the 15th of December and they've since brought in Murray so I'd be surprised if he started another game this season
I think there's a good chance of him being shipped out this summer and with that record as a 31 year old he'll struggle to find a championship club imo
I wonder if Bowyer would take him back as part of the summer rebuild? I personally wouldn’t want him back but I wonder if Bowyer feels he was so important that he can overlook what happened.
He hasn't started a game since the 15th of December and they've since brought in Murray so I'd be surprised if he started another game this season
I think there's a good chance of him being shipped out this summer and with that record as a 31 year old he'll struggle to find a championship club imo
I wonder if Bowyer would take him back as part of the summer rebuild? I personally wouldn’t want him back but I wonder if Bowyer feels he was so important that he can overlook what happened.
I'd hope not. Even forgetting the fact that he let us down more than any other player I can remember, he just wouldn't have the same drive that made him the player he was.
He hasn't started a game since the 15th of December and they've since brought in Murray so I'd be surprised if he started another game this season
I think there's a good chance of him being shipped out this summer and with that record as a 31 year old he'll struggle to find a championship club imo
shipped out where though, who's gonna pay him what Forest are !
It happens in football. Sometimes you just click somewhere and go through a brief period of being brilliant, move on and find that you were just in a great moment rather than a great player. Danny Graham was a great example of this. Middling career when he was young, and a couple of decent seasons at Carlisle got him a move to Watford. He had one good, one brilliant season there before he got a move to the Premier League with Swansea, started alright and then went to pieces. It took him 5 years before he scored more than 10 goals in a season again after getting a grand total of 2 Premier League goals in 3 years after leaving Swansea. Lyle was the same; struggled to make an impact at the start of his career, decent at Wimbledon, excellent for us, collapse. I'm sure he's happy with his £20,000 a week until 2022. There will definitely be frustration that he isn't making an impact there but I doubt there's any regret on his part. He was always leaving the second Southall walked through the door and there's nothing that could change that.
This is very true - from watching The Big Match Revisited, I noticed Alfie Conn who played for Spurs - very good player, but drifted away it seems and ended up with a career of only 233 league appearances (incl in the NASL) and 57 goals - Spurs fans called him the ‘King of White Hart Lane’ and from his play I have seen on the telly, should have had way more games and goals than he did
I don’t know if injury blighted his career though, maybe that was the reason
Always difficult to gauge an overall fans perspective on Twitter, but Forest fans after last night just can’t figure out why he’s changed.
Frustration & confidence - mainly in the manager. It must be disheartening to be on the bench every week & only coming on in the last 15/30 mins when you are chasing the game. That is not his style. He is used to being the main man - the focal point.
However, never has the saying "be careful for what you wish for" been so true. Taylor is a good League 1 player & an average Championship player. He is a handful but not a prolific striker. He has got what he wanted in terms of a "big money" move - it's for him to decide whether that is more important than playing every week & being adored by his fans. He can always ask for a transfer in the summer to somewhere more suitable.
Always difficult to gauge an overall fans perspective on Twitter, but Forest fans after last night just can’t figure out why he’s changed.
Frustration & confidence - mainly in the manager. It must be disheartening to be on the bench every week & only coming on in the last 15/30 mins when you are chasing the game. That is not his style. He is used to being the main man - the focal point.
However, never has the saying "be careful for what you wish for" been so true. Taylor is a good League 1 player & an average Championship player. He is a handful but not a prolific striker. He has got what he wanted in terms of a "big money" move - it's for him to decide whether that is more important than playing every week & being adored by his fans. He can always ask for a transfer in the summer to somewhere more suitable.
Maybe he’ll give his financial adviser some money to invest for him , to look after his future or maybe he’ll ask the adviser to invest the love of the fans he received and see what return that gets him 🤷♂️
Christ, anyone who thinks Taylor is a better player then Yann is on the wind up. Ask Bournemouth supporters about Yann and they go as weak at the knees over him as we do
All this aside, if he was to come back next season, or any other i would be more than happy. Yes what he done was ridiculous, but end of the day when he played for us he was sometimes unplayable, even just a chance he still had that in him it would be worth the shot. His level is Championship imo, he might not be in favour but in the right set up he will score goals that level and this level.
The irony for Lyle is that he may as well have played out the end of the season with us. He would have left on good terms, we would have stayed up, and even if he'd picked up a knock he'd probably have scored the same number of goals for Forest as he has this season. The difference is he would have had the excuse of recovering from an injury as he settled in his first season. Instead he's gone to them fresher than anyone and failed with nothing to fall back on and a lot of negative articles about him floating around.
Had he stayed and played we would have likely stayed up and he would be leading us in the championship on a much better contract courtesy of TS.
Would have been a far better outcome for all parties than what has transpired and we'd probably just be bemoaning our annual capitulation v Millwall rather than praying a win v bottom club Wigan signals that we might be turning a corner.
Of course it is all retrospect as we didn't know TS was going to come in and save us...but with retrospect it is sad about what could have been had the takeover happened a couple of months earlier as it doesn't seem to have benefited anyone.
Lyle could be on an equal contract on his way to Charlton legendary status but unfortunately hasn't turned out like that.
Just a little question here. If his decision to refuse to play was so out of order (which it was) why didn't his agent point that out to him?
If there is any credible answer other than "his agent got a big earner and that's all that mattered to his agent", do please post it. To assist us, here is Taylor speaking so warmly of them to Richard Cawley in the summer of 2019.
Always difficult to gauge an overall fans perspective on Twitter, but Forest fans after last night just can’t figure out why he’s changed.
Frustration & confidence - mainly in the manager. It must be disheartening to be on the bench every week & only coming on in the last 15/30 mins when you are chasing the game. That is not his style. He is used to being the main man - the focal point.
That’s naivety from him and his agent then. Even we know that Forest play one up front, and Taylor was never going to be above Grabban as the main man. Even worse for his ego now, he’s third choice striker.
His agent got him more money. Taylor is not a Charlton fan, he's a professional footballer. Half a dozen bad games and there would be 5000 posts on the Has Lyle Taylor Lost It? thread. If we think then long term Taylor would have made more money by staying and developing as a footballer then fair enough.
His agent got him more money. Taylor is not a Charlton fan, he's a professional footballer. Half a dozen bad games and there would be 5000 posts on the Has Lyle Taylor Lost It? thread. If we think then long term Taylor would have made more money by staying and developing as a footballer then fair enough.
He's not even a Football fan, he's admitted himself that he doesnt "get" the whole tribalism of the sport
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He has it now. No need to try anymore. Surprised Houghton has stuck with him this long. We saw him at his best.
I think there's a good chance of him being shipped out this summer and with that record as a 31 year old he'll struggle to find a championship club imo
I personally wouldn’t want him back but I wonder if Bowyer feels he was so important that he can overlook what happened.
I don’t know if injury blighted his career though, maybe that was the reason
However, never has the saying "be careful for what you wish for" been so true. Taylor is a good League 1 player & an average Championship player. He is a handful but not a prolific striker. He has got what he wanted in terms of a "big money" move - it's for him to decide whether that is more important than playing every week & being adored by his fans. He can always ask for a transfer in the summer to somewhere more suitable.
or maybe he’ll ask the adviser to invest the love of the fans he received and see what return that gets him 🤷♂️
Would have been a far better outcome for all parties than what has transpired and we'd probably just be bemoaning our annual capitulation v Millwall rather than praying a win v bottom club Wigan signals that we might be turning a corner.
Of course it is all retrospect as we didn't know TS was going to come in and save us...but with retrospect it is sad about what could have been had the takeover happened a couple of months earlier as it doesn't seem to have benefited anyone.
Lyle could be on an equal contract on his way to Charlton legendary status but unfortunately hasn't turned out like that.
Shame.
If there is any credible answer other than "his agent got a big earner and that's all that mattered to his agent", do please post it. To assist us, here is Taylor speaking so warmly of them to Richard Cawley in the summer of 2019.