At least we don't have to sell unless an adequate replacement is in.
This although a striker that wants away I can see being “injured” a bit more often
Honestly, i dont think that is Lyle Taylor. I was told by my AFCW mate, who is well connected inside that club, that what he needs above all is to feel appreciated by the fans, which is why some of the muppetry going about at the moment really pisses me off.
The muppets told us in the summer that he would be sulking and not give 100%. Were they right.? Were they ****,
Sheff W are not much a better bet then us (football wise).
Sheffield Wednesday are currently 8th, 2 points outside the play offs and with a goal diff superior to everyone but the top 3, in spite of having lost their last 3 league games !!
They are currently a much much better bet than us football wise
Sheff W are not much a better bet then us (football wise).
Sheffield Wednesday are currently 8th, 2 points outside the play offs and with a goal diff superior to everyone but the top 3, in spite of having lost their last 3 league games !!
They are currently a much much better bet than us football wise
Although still with the potential for a huge points deduction.
Well, OK, we both have sources to respect and protect. So I will just say that I totally agree with you that 10k minimum is his current salary value. That being the case I find it difficult to believe that he hasn't been offered more, because I believe these guys have a good handle on overall salaries in this division and across UK football. Tabling such an offer would almost have been a waste of everyone's time.
Trouble is, giving Taylor what we think he wants is going to bust the club's wage structure wide open. And that could cause player discontent within the squad.
Maybe the offer to Taylor comprised only a modest increase in his basic wage - but big signing-on fee and bonuses compensated for that?
Plus a 3 year+ contract would take him past his 33rd birthday. That's decent security for a player of his age.
None of that would severely threaten the club's existing wage structure. That could change in the summer, anyway.
And nothing to prevent Taylor being offered an improved offer at that time.
I know some people do get interesting facts about Charlton before the rest of us and thank you to them, but who in Charlton employ would actually know what money has been discussed with Taylor...........Southall, Bowyer, Gallen, Taylor and his agent, I cannot see any of them discussing it with Charlton supporters, so where does this information come from.........and I am not saying those who seem ITK do not know someone who tells, but I cannot see wages being discussed by all and sundry. Time may prove me wrong
I’m starting to think a few red herrings r being slung out - that or some r factoring the re signing on fee into the weekly wage and others aren’t maybe ???
@Redhenry you're by far the most itk on here, but I think your guy has missed a 1 off the front of his figure here... Not in a million years has he been offered "nowhere near" 10k. If what you're saying is indeed correct then I think they may have bigger and better targets in mind and the offer is a bit of a smokescreen
It is what it is. I appreciate what he's done for us and his goals will be hard to replace, but we'll find a decent replacement. That's the first thing Southall did was tell Lee to buy a striker.
The fans will find a new favorite. Mine continues to be Jonny Williams, the man who took a pay cut to stay with us. While I dont blame Lyle for looking for more money, it is still refreshing to have the likes of Williams and Solly in the team who have a bit of loyalty to Charlton
Seen it suggested a few times that Jonny Williams “took a paycut” to stay with us.
That isn’t strictly true.
Yes, he is earning less money than he was on for his previous contract. But he didn’t ‘choose’ us over an alternative option that would have given him more money. He took time in the Summer to evaluate his options and see what he could get - and no club was going to offer him the money that he was on previously, and hence he re-signed with us.
Very different to ‘taking a pay cut to be with Charlton’
I was told different on Williams. Technically no formal offer was made but a club got in contact regarding a deal. It involved a pay as you play bonus but the information I received was that if he played 30 games he would have doubled his annual salary with us.
I know some people do get interesting facts about Charlton before the rest of us and thank you to them, but who in Charlton employ would actually know what money has been discussed with Taylor...........Southall, Bowyer, Gallen, Taylor and his agent, I cannot see any of them discussing it with Charlton supporters, so where does this information come from.........and I am not saying those who seem ITK do not know someone who tells, but I cannot see wages being discussed by all and sundry. Time may prove me wrong
The player themselves usually gabber about what dough they're on.
Not saying it LT in this instance, but it ain't unusual
Lots of different figures being thrown about for Taylor's contract. Does he even know what it is he turned down! Did the contract need a magnifying glass
I know some people do get interesting facts about Charlton before the rest of us and thank you to them, but who in Charlton employ would actually know what money has been discussed with Taylor...........Southall, Bowyer, Gallen, Taylor and his agent, I cannot see any of them discussing it with Charlton supporters, so where does this information come from.........and I am not saying those who seem ITK do not know someone who tells, but I cannot see wages being discussed by all and sundry. Time may prove me wrong
Been supporting this club since the 60s. During that time I've seen us play at over 80 different grounds. I have met and spoken to more managers and directors than I can count. If I post a comment concerning what is happening at the moment I do so in good faith with what I have been told. 16k was what he has been offered.
I know some people do get interesting facts about Charlton before the rest of us and thank you to them, but who in Charlton employ would actually know what money has been discussed with Taylor...........Southall, Bowyer, Gallen, Taylor and his agent, I cannot see any of them discussing it with Charlton supporters, so where does this information come from.........and I am not saying those who seem ITK do not know someone who tells, but I cannot see wages being discussed by all and sundry. Time may prove me wrong
Been supporting this club since the 60s. During that time I've seen us play at over 80 different grounds. I have met and spoken to more managers and directors than I can count. If I post a comment concerning what is happening at the moment I do so in good faith with what I have been told. 16k was what he has been offered.
I know some people do get interesting facts about Charlton before the rest of us and thank you to them, but who in Charlton employ would actually know what money has been discussed with Taylor...........Southall, Bowyer, Gallen, Taylor and his agent, I cannot see any of them discussing it with Charlton supporters, so where does this information come from.........and I am not saying those who seem ITK do not know someone who tells, but I cannot see wages being discussed by all and sundry. Time may prove me wrong
Been supporting this club since the 60s. During that time I've seen us play at over 80 different grounds. I have met and spoken to more managers and directors than I can count. If I post a comment concerning what is happening at the moment I do so in good faith with what I have been told. 16k was what he has been offered.
we offered a miserly amount to Taylor, don't blame him tbh
18k ain’t measly mate
Exactly the figure that was being banded around the week before ESI completed the takeover. As was the fact he had rejected the deal without negotiating.
I'm not stupid enough to think that ESI won't be spinning this, but equally I refuse to accept that he has been offered less than Naby Sarr earns.
We know @redhenry has good sources (plural) outside the club so if he's saying it wasn't a good offer than I believe him.
Without upsetting Carlyburn and not calling anyone a w****** there are two side to the story as Cawley has just reminded everyone just as there was when Bowyer was "sacked" in the summer for being greedy.
I think this tale has a few more twists in the plot yet.
@Redhenry said it was a "shit" offer or something equally charged. Like @blackpool72 I have heard it is 16k. I don't think that is a shit offer at all. He might get more from a nut house like Rangers (while they still have cash in the bank, anyway) but that would not make our offer "shit".
So let me ask @redhenry this. Is the figure you heard less than 15k? Or if in fact we have all three of us heard the same figure, why would you say it is shit?
16k a week isn't really a 'shit' offer, but it might be considered shit if the guy can get 20k a week plus a 1m signing on fee from another club in the summer.
Life changing transfer for him, good luck to him if it comes off.
Apparently we offered 18k a week and a 3 year deal plus some bonuses.
To those saying he will get double/treble at other clubs I can’t see many clubs least of all rangers paying much more than us, for a player who despite what people say isn’t fully proved at this level.
The Facebook group is good for a chuckle I think Some fans are going to have banners out saying good luck Lyle, he’s a football player he’s good at his job that’s it.
I know some people do get interesting facts about Charlton before the rest of us and thank you to them, but who in Charlton employ would actually know what money has been discussed with Taylor...........Southall, Bowyer, Gallen, Taylor and his agent, I cannot see any of them discussing it with Charlton supporters, so where does this information come from.........and I am not saying those who seem ITK do not know someone who tells, but I cannot see wages being discussed by all and sundry. Time may prove me wrong
Been supporting this club since the 60s. During that time I've seen us play at over 80 different grounds. I have met and spoken to more managers and directors than I can count. If I post a comment concerning what is happening at the moment I do so in good faith with what I have been told. 16k was what he has been offered.
we offered a miserly amount to Taylor, don't blame him tbh
18k ain’t measly mate
Exactly the figure that was being banded around the week before ESI completed the takeover. As was the fact he had rejected the deal without negotiating.
I'm not stupid enough to think that ESI won't be spinning this, but equally I refuse to accept that he has been offered less than Naby Sarr earns.
I know some people do get interesting facts about Charlton before the rest of us and thank you to them, but who in Charlton employ would actually know what money has been discussed with Taylor...........Southall, Bowyer, Gallen, Taylor and his agent, I cannot see any of them discussing it with Charlton supporters, so where does this information come from.........and I am not saying those who seem ITK do not know someone who tells, but I cannot see wages being discussed by all and sundry. Time may prove me wrong
Been supporting this club since the 60s. During that time I've seen us play at over 80 different grounds. I have met and spoken to more managers and directors than I can count. If I post a comment concerning what is happening at the moment I do so in good faith with what I have been told. 16k was what he has been offered.
If we had a stronger squad or make some early signings then I could see the no contract situation being more positive as a good champ striker may see it as an attractive place to get 1st team football and push up the league next year. Signings would encourage Lyle and we may, dare I say it, end up with a couple of decent goal scorers signed up by the end of the window. Wishful thinking and that!
I know some people do get interesting facts about Charlton before the rest of us and thank you to them, but who in Charlton employ would actually know what money has been discussed with Taylor...........Southall, Bowyer, Gallen, Taylor and his agent, I cannot see any of them discussing it with Charlton supporters, so where does this information come from.........and I am not saying those who seem ITK do not know someone who tells, but I cannot see wages being discussed by all and sundry. Time may prove me wrong
Been supporting this club since the 60s. During that time I've seen us play at over 80 different grounds. I have met and spoken to more managers and directors than I can count. If I post a comment concerning what is happening at the moment I do so in good faith with what I have been told. 16k was what he has been offered.
Go and have a whisky mate.
If you're buying I'll have a large one
See you in The Oak for 2 on Saturday then......you greedy c***
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The muppets told us in the summer that he would be sulking and not give 100%. Were they right.? Were they ****,
Sheffield Wednesday are currently 8th, 2 points outside the play offs and with a goal diff superior to everyone but the top 3, in spite of having lost their last 3 league games !!
They are currently a much much better bet than us football wise
Although still with the potential for a huge points deduction.
Either way for once I think Redhenry has got this one wrong.
And that could cause player discontent within the squad.
Maybe the offer to Taylor comprised only a modest increase in his basic wage - but big signing-on fee and bonuses compensated for that?
Plus a 3 year+ contract would take him past his 33rd birthday.
That's decent security for a player of his age.
None of that would severely threaten the club's existing wage structure.
That could change in the summer, anyway.
And nothing to prevent Taylor being offered an improved offer at that time.
I think it's time to give up on the guessing.
Not saying it LT in this instance, but it ain't unusual
During that time I've seen us play at over 80 different grounds.
I have met and spoken to more managers and directors than I can count.
If I post a comment concerning what is happening at the moment I do so in good faith with what I have been told.
16k was what he has been offered.
:-)