Very sorry to lose the BFG. Solid, calm, dependable. Can’t blame him for moving on and I wish him well.
Also, I trust in LB and SG to get a very good replacement in. Lockyer looked very accomplished against us and would, I think, be at least as good as Paddy given coaching.
It’s worth noting that Preston don’t actually pay big money and their revenue of £13.4m in 2017/18 is very similar to what Charlton’s will be in 2019/20 - in fact it’s a fair bet Charlton’s will be higher.
Their wage bill in 17/18 was £15m against Charlton’s £10m on much lower L1 income.
Obviously we don’t know Bauer is going there, his wider reasoning or how far up Lee Bowyer’s priority list retaining him was.
But let’s be clear that if they are offering him double what Charlton are, it’s a choice on both sides. It’s not can’t in our case, it’s won’t.
This has turned into one big ‘sorry you’re leaving’ card. Only thing missing is the whip round for a present. I’ll add my bit ... Good luck in your new job, you’ll be missed. Cheers @_MrDick
Am I the only one who is a little upset by this as his decision? Money over loyalty to Bowyer and co imo?
It's interesting isn't it. Bauer is being sent on his way with best wishes, despite leaving to a team in the same division for free. Compare that o the reaction Grant got for moving to the Premier League for a fee.
I used to get very upset at players leaving, but now I;m older I respect anyone's right to move on in their life to try an better their circumstances. Some decisions pan out, others don't but Paddy's handled himself pretty well, early season tweets aside, and if he feels this is the best thing for him and his family - good luck to him.
I am disappointed we're losing the only player currently in our squad with a track record of playing well at Championship level
It's only when a player "throws his toy out of the pram" or moves to a local rival that they tend to get a bad reaction. After all this season we'll also be facing Cousins, Morrison, Randolph, Konsa etc
Let’s not have the banners out when he returns, he will not be getting paid 4 times the salary as some are alluding to on the Facebook page, agree he will get more and footballers only have a short amount of time to earn, so that’s that, he’s left for more money and likely to be signing for one of 3 clubs that finished 14/15/18th last season and will be same again this season, so not exactly a huge step up as I am hoping we will be around that finishing position - very important to stay in the league until the poisonous Cnut sells.
Cant blame him to be honest, but even with the smallest budget in the Championship I believe Bows, Jacko, Marshall and Gallen will have us in the top 10. Good luck BFG except when you play us and I hope Taylor tears you a new one.
I reckon you're in for a big disappointment Tel. If we stay up it will be a great achievement and I think we have a fighting chance.
Also makes me think a takeover isn't that close. As Bowyer could've said to him 'hang on a bit and we'll be able to give you a better offer'. Pretty sure he'd have preferred to stay here than move up north. He'd still be contracted for another 2 weeks anyway?
I don’t think it’s just about the money tbh. Despite LB’s heroics it’s very plain to see that Roland is a totally incompetent nut job and we’ll always be a basket case under his ownership. I don’t blame anyone for fancying a move to somewhere that’s run by someone sane who understands football even a little bit.
Must admit I’m struggling to accept the money in the game nowadays. Bang average Championship players are earning more in a month than the vast majority of us do in a year. Seemed only,a few years ago that was the prem players, but now they get that in a week.
Football has definitely lost its head in terms of paying wages that a club doesn’t earn. That’s one of the few things Roland actual has right imo
Whilst I probably agree why is it any different from the sums actors and musicians earn and other "entertainers"?
Said it before but if everyone cancels their Sky Sports and BT subscriptions this morning the revolution would happen by tea time and salaries return to some semblance of normality.
Football fans have put the money in the game largely through sky sports subscriptions as the tv money facilitates all the financial madness.
Stop funding that and pretty much overnight the model materially changes.
But TV money ISN'T funding Championship wages. Premier League clubs earn massive TV money, EFL clubs don't. As a result most Championship clubs are making massive losses, with owners pumping in money in the hope of reaching the promised land.
Is there a better replacement available on a free on whom we can spend the £10,000pw we're not paying Paddy? I seriously doubt it. Or one we can sign for £250,000 and pay £5,000pw? Snowball and hell spring to mind.
So, unless Paddy was absolutely intent on leaving us, this is seriously bad business by Twoshits. Spend £2m on a player and not spend £250,000 to keep him.
Can't believe anyone would accuse Bauer of disloyalty. He signed under Roland, sat through all the turmoil, got relegated and despite being one of our better players stayed with us in L1, didn't kick up a fuss when Blackburn came in for him and we said no, stuck to his contract and announced at the start of last season that he would be leaving at the end of his present deal. No secret dealing with agents, no going on strike to get a move, told us fans publicly that we had one more year of him. Despite that he was completely committed throughout the season, to the point where Bowyer would name him captain on the pitch, he led the players out at Wembley and scored the goal that got us promoted back to the second tier.
If that's not enough for you from a player then you don't deserve their loyalty.
Must admit I’m struggling to accept the money in the game nowadays. Bang average Championship players are earning more in a month than the vast majority of us do in a year. Seemed only,a few years ago that was the prem players, but now they get that in a week.
Football has definitely lost its head in terms of paying wages that a club doesn’t earn. That’s one of the few things Roland actual has right imo
Whilst I probably agree why is it any different from the sums actors and musicians earn and other "entertainers"?
Said it before but if everyone cancels their Sky Sports and BT subscriptions this morning the revolution would happen by tea time and salaries return to some semblance of normality.
Football fans have put the money in the game largely through sky sports subscriptions as the tv money facilitates all the financial madness.
Stop funding that and pretty much overnight the model materially changes.
But TV money ISN'T funding Championship wages. Premier League clubs earn massive TV money, EFL clubs don't. As a result most Championship clubs are making massive losses, with owners pumping in money in the hope of reaching the promised land.
Must admit I’m struggling to accept the money in the game nowadays. Bang average Championship players are earning more in a month than the vast majority of us do in a year. Seemed only,a few years ago that was the prem players, but now they get that in a week.
Football has definitely lost its head in terms of paying wages that a club doesn’t earn. That’s one of the few things Roland actual has right imo
Whilst I probably agree why is it any different from the sums actors and musicians earn and other "entertainers"?
Said it before but if everyone cancels their Sky Sports and BT subscriptions this morning the revolution would happen by tea time and salaries return to some semblance of normality.
Football fans have put the money in the game largely through sky sports subscriptions as the tv money facilitates all the financial madness.
Stop funding that and pretty much overnight the model materially changes.
But TV money ISN'T funding Championship wages. Premier League clubs earn massive TV money, EFL clubs don't. As a result most Championship clubs are making massive losses, with owners pumping in money in the hope of reaching the promised land.
It's not a sustainable model.
And yet it has been sustained, for a number of years, because people are willing to fund it in pursuit of the prize. Everyone agrees it’s unhealthy but it cannot be changed by statements or actions from an individual owner with the least credibility among his peers.
Must admit I’m struggling to accept the money in the game nowadays. Bang average Championship players are earning more in a month than the vast majority of us do in a year. Seemed only,a few years ago that was the prem players, but now they get that in a week.
Football has definitely lost its head in terms of paying wages that a club doesn’t earn. That’s one of the few things Roland actual has right imo
Think we will see more financial meltdowns of championship clubs next year. Apparently Birmingham losing 700k a week!
Possibly why Monk got the sack. Perhaps Brum wanted to cut the expenses & Monk said he wouldn't be able to compete ?
Solid, efficient centre half who quietly went about his business.
The kind of player who will only be fully appreciated when he's gone although the Wembley goal is a wonderful legacy for him too of course.
Good luck BFG
This. Since the season ended I've been keeping close to the news Iin hopeful anticipation that Pat would stay. I don't believe he is the most talented player but his heart is always on the pitch. I have much respect for this man as he conducts himself in the right way on and off the pitch. Saddened more than gutted he's going. He will always be remembered as part of a special season on our supporting lives. We all know they don't come around very often so 'legend' is not too high a comment being mentioned. All the very best from Sheffield. its not 'grim oop North' Pat but there's no place like Charlton.
A big loss,thought he might stay,new baby,settled in the area.possibly his agent convinced him to move,these people only think about their cuts.
I don't know why that person LOL'ed your post. I am sure that you are absolutely on the money. Bauer after the final seemed to be focused on his family, his new-born.
Also makes me think a takeover isn't that close. As Bowyer could've said to him 'hang on a bit and we'll be able to give you a better offer'. Pretty sure he'd have preferred to stay here than move up north. He'd still be contracted for another 2 weeks anyway?
I don’t think it’s just about the money tbh. Despite LB’s heroics it’s very plain to see that Roland is a totally incompetent nut job and we’ll always be a basket case under his ownership. I don’t blame anyone for fancying a move to somewhere that’s run by someone sane who understands football even a little bit.
I think it pretty much is just about the money. If we had offered the same as Preston/Blackburn, would he have left ? I very much doubt it.
Am I the only one who is a little upset by this as his decision? Money over loyalty to Bowyer and co imo?
Becoming a father may have had something to do with it I think.
I would have thought that it was despite that, going only from how I have seen him talking about it. But double the wage is a lot of money. Which btw he would not get anywhere near in Germany
Charlton manager Lee Bowyer said: “I wish him the best and hope he can carry on progressing in his career. He was a man mountain for me in the time I’ve been in charge. He deserves everything he gets in the game. He’s been a true professional and a great person to be around, so I just wish him all the best.
I think if he'd joined one of the big guns or someone swimming in parachute payments, then fair enough. But being massively outbid by the likes of Preston shows just how crazy the Championship has become.
It's the continuing evolution of a more stratified system. Through the 80s, smaller teams could compete at the top level. Through the 90s & 00s, they could compete at the Champ level - teams like Crewe, Tranmere, Barnsley, Millwall, Swindon could not just survive but compete at the top end.
Now, the smaller teams (& that includes us, for now) are pretty much nailed on to struggle, along with the odd larger team in meltdown. I think many here would settle for 19th place already, in the hope that it is accompanied by new ownership and someone willing to gamble or sink large amounts in.
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Also, I trust in LB and SG to get a very good replacement in. Lockyer looked very accomplished against us and would, I think, be at least as good as Paddy given coaching.
Their wage bill in 17/18 was £15m against Charlton’s £10m on much lower L1 income.
Obviously we don’t know Bauer is going there, his wider reasoning or how far up Lee Bowyer’s priority list retaining him was.
But let’s be clear that if they are offering him double what Charlton are, it’s a choice on both sides. It’s not can’t in our case, it’s won’t.
If we stay up it will be a great achievement and I think we have a fighting chance.
It's not a sustainable model.
Is there a better replacement available on a free on whom we can spend the £10,000pw we're not paying Paddy? I seriously doubt it. Or one we can sign for £250,000 and pay £5,000pw? Snowball and hell spring to mind.
So, unless Paddy was absolutely intent on leaving us, this is seriously bad business by Twoshits. Spend £2m on a player and not spend £250,000 to keep him.
If that's not enough for you from a player then you don't deserve their loyalty.
Thank you Patrick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez6ASIU0Ip4
Like you I was convinced it was Pearce - but it wasn't
Perhaps Brum wanted to cut the expenses & Monk said he wouldn't be able to compete ?
If we had offered the same as Preston/Blackburn, would he have left ?
I very much doubt it.
Charlton manager Lee Bowyer said: “I wish him the best and hope he can carry on progressing in his career. He was a man mountain for me in the time I’ve been in charge. He deserves everything he gets in the game. He’s been a true professional and a great person to be around, so I just wish him all the best.
“I will never forget that goal.”
https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/preston-north-end-sign-charlton-athletic-defender-bauer/It's the continuing evolution of a more stratified system. Through the 80s, smaller teams could compete at the top level. Through the 90s & 00s, they could compete at the Champ level - teams like Crewe, Tranmere, Barnsley, Millwall, Swindon could not just survive but compete at the top end.
Now, the smaller teams (& that includes us, for now) are pretty much nailed on to struggle, along with the odd larger team in meltdown. I think many here would settle for 19th place already, in the hope that it is accompanied by new ownership and someone willing to gamble or sink large amounts in.