Not a nephew - I have changed my stance 24hrs on, bearing in mind the reasonable reasons posted why it was wrong. He should not have done it, I should not have been delighted.
Fair play to you for posting the above, it was quite an emotional night for all and lots can be said in the heat of the moment.
Notice a fan who has been suspended by his Employer: Savills (the Estate Agent) is claiming that his twitter account was hacked after posting and then deleting a racist message after the game.
Why is it when an account gets hacked the hacker always sends racist abuse or cock pics?
Notice a fan who has been suspended by his Employer: Savills (the Estate Agent) is claiming that his twitter account was hacked after posting and then deleting a racist message after the game.
Why is it when an account gets hacked the hacker always sends racist abuse or cock picks?
There must be just two hackers (or maybe just one who likes to keep busy).
The ‘foreign bot’ suggestion is something which I think is very much a factor. It sounds strange if you don’t use Twitter, but it is very prevalent.
You’ll see dozens of accounts tweeting exactly the same letters and words in response to multiple different stories, usually with a targeted agenda against England. Those accounts always tend to be ‘anonymous’ but with the indication that they are not from the UK.
The ‘foreign bot’ suggestion is something which I think is very much a factor. It sounds strange if you don’t use Twitter, but it is very prevalent.
You’ll see dozens of accounts tweeting exactly the same letters and words in response to multiple different stories, usually with a targeted agenda against England. Those accounts always tend to be ‘anonymous’ but with the indication that they are not from the UK.
It sounds weird I know, but it is a thing.
Exactly. It's not a conspiracy theory, and it's not an excuse to wash our hands of it - that certainly wasn't my intention when I shared that graphic. Unless you're active on twitter, you simply cannot understand how fucking weird it gets on that app.
The booing of visiting teams’ national anthems, footage of fans without tickets breaking through barriers to get into Wembley and the online racist abuse of England’s unlucky penalty-takers has made many commentators in continental Europe question notions of English fair play.
“Where have the much-vaunted English qualities of fair play, respect and decency gone?” asked the French daily Libération. In an editorial, the newspaper’s foreign editor, Sonia Delesalle-Stolper, wrote: “The England team’s defeat has been sad for the players and for supporters who were enthused by this young, talented team representing a vibrant and diverse nation.
Victory would have been beautiful, but this defeat, this violence and racism, put the finger on a bitter truth. How to make oneself hated by all? Through these images, of a minority, certainly, but of a minority that is noisy, too visible and too tolerated. Alcohol does not explain everything.”
As the celebrations over Italy’s victory died down, the Italian press on Tuesday reflected on the violence and racism that marred the aftermath of the final, with La Repubblica describing Sunday night as “the darkest in English football”. Under the headline “No fair play, we’re English”, La Stampa’s Elena Stancanelli said the online racism against black players showed that England “has not learnt how to react to defeat”.
“Fights, howls, maskless crowds and racist slurs in the homeland of fair play,” read a headline in Il Sole 24 Ore. “We came back from London with contradictory feelings,” the article said. “The cup was in the suitcase … but our gaze remained on what was happening around us, before and after the final.”
The fact that England was hosting the final of a pan-European tournament, as well as its bid to co-host a World Cup with the Republic of Ireland in 2030, meant organisation around the Euro 2020 final and the behaviour of English fans were under intense scrutiny.
Groups of England fans ruined the good image that its team had built up
“There were only 1,500 fans from Italy – normally it is a third [of the crowd]”, said ethnologist Wolfgang Kaschuba on Germany’s Deutschlandfunk radio. “This balance of power should have obliged an elegant, cool and friendly host to deal with the situation fairly”.
Instead, wrote the Swiss tabloid Blick, “the English didn’t just lose a penalty shootout on Sunday … Because of the behaviour of some of their fans, the Three Lions also have to wave goodbye to a lot of respect from the rest of Europe”.
A reporter for the German broadsheet Die Zeit criticised the policing in and around the stadium. “That hundreds of fans ran over security guards to storm the stadium because they didn’t have a ticket was not only stupid, it was dangerous,” wrote Christian Spiller in an article simply headlined “Just embarrassing”. Spiller questioned why there had not been better security measures in a country that has been aware of the risks of overcrowding since the Hillsborough disaster.
A fan walks by a police line near Leicester Square on Sunday. Photograph: Peter Morrison/AP
“Of course, it was a minority that booed or fought or racially abused their own players,” wrote Spiller. “But even a minority can be a lot. Especially when they are loud and radical. Viewed from a distance, British national chauvinism has been more visible at this tournament than England’s progressive side. In the end it was the English fans who left us with the worst memories of these Euros.”
Süddeutsche Zeitung went further, directly linking scenes from the final in London to the British government. “The Johnson government had announced 19 July as ‘freedom day’, the day on which Brits could return to pre-pandemic routines. In fact, the masks already fell on the day of the final – and Johnson’s mask was pulled away the day after.”
The Spanish press was saddened, if far from surprised, by Sunday’s events. “England lost Euro 2020 but they also lost a huge opportunity to show that they’re an admirable team with exemplary fans,” was ABC’s take on the final.
El País’s London correspondent, Rafa de Miguel, offered a similar appraisal. “In the hours leading up to the Euro final, groups of England fans took it upon themselves to ruin the good image that Gareth Southgate’s squad had built up,” he wrote.
“Hundreds of hooligans clashed with the police at one of the Wembley entrances. They managed to jump the security fences and ended up on the floor in a disorderly scrum … beer bottles flew above the avenue that leads to the stadium and the floor was a corridor of broken glass and scattered rubbish.
“When the time came, and as tradition dictates, a good number of fans once again showed why it can be so hard for even those with the best will in the world to support the Three Lions,” De Miguel added. “And you can’t blame Brexit. All you have to do is look at what happened on the streets”.
For his colleague Walter Oppenheimer, Sunday – and indeed the path that had led to the final – revealed some deeper truths about England as both a team and a country.
“What happens with England when it comes to football happens with other things, too,” wrote Oppenheimer. “While it is a powerful, advanced and often generous country, ‘[and] a pioneer in disciplines from science to art and thought, it is also a petulant country, incapable of accepting its limitations.”
Using bots for political advantage is something I definitely believe goes on. Every time I read BTL postings on sites like the Guardian I'm convinced some of the nuttier accounts are being directed by someone at CCHQ to discredit the wider left movement and by association Labour.
Does it make me a bad person that I'm disappointed that flare the idiot stuck up his backside wasn't a banger? We want the 2030 World Cup, and these sort of behaviours don't help that.
I am too young to remember any of this, but how did the wider public see the treatment of David Beckham in 1998. I obviously remember the burning effegies, but did not know about the photo of him on a dart board. Did the wider public see as wrong, or was it just one of those things at that time.
I think most viewed it as wrong. Although it was a stupid act by Beckham, whereas missing a penalty is an unfortunate act. A lot of the hatred was nurtured by the gutter press if I recall.
I am too young to remember any of this, but how did the wider public see the treatment of David Beckham in 1998. I obviously remember the burning effegies, but did not know about the photo of him on a dart board. Did the wider public see as wrong, or was it just one of those things at that time.
I think he got dogs abuse playing for man U away for quite a while. I really hope that none of this England team get any of that crap this season. I don't think they will.
I am too young to remember any of this, but how did the wider public see the treatment of David Beckham in 1998. I obviously remember the burning effegies, but did not know about the photo of him on a dart board. Did the wider public see as wrong, or was it just one of those things at that time.
I think he got dogs abuse playing for man U away for quite a while. I really hope that none of this England team get any of that crap this season. I don't think they will.
I am too young to remember any of this, but how did the wider public see the treatment of David Beckham in 1998. I obviously remember the burning effegies, but did not know about the photo of him on a dart board. Did the wider public see as wrong, or was it just one of those things at that time.
England hit with four charges from UEFA for Wembley supporter chaos vs ItalyThe Euro 2020 final was overshadowed by shameful scenes both outside and inside Wembley as a number of ticketless supporters broke into the stadium ENGLAND FANS FIGHT OUTSIDE WEMBLEY STADIUM England will face four charges from UEFA following the disgraceful scenes at Wembley Stadium both before and during their Euro 2020 final against Italy.Supporters were seen fighting amongst themselves, while hundreds who did not have tickets broke into the stadium.And, inevitably, the English FA are now set to face punishment, with UEFA also preparing to conduct a separate disciplinary investigation to look into exactly how things got so out of control outside the ground.A statement released by the organisation on Tuesday read: "Disciplinary proceedings have been opened following the UEFA EURO 2020 final match between the national teams of Italy and England (1-1, Italy won 3-2 on penalties), played on 11 July at Wembley Stadium, London.Charges against The English Football Association :• Invasion of the field of play by its supporters - Article 16(2)(a) of the UEFA Disciplinary Regulations (DR)• Throwing of objects by its supporters - Article 16(2)(b) DREngland will face punishment for the shocking scenes at Wembley (Image: Action Images via Reuters)• Disturbance caused by its supporters during the national anthem - Article 16(2)(g) DR• Lighting of a firework by its supporters - Article 16(2)(c) DR"The case will be dealt with by the UEFA Control, Ethics and Disciplinary Body (CEDB) in due course."Separately, and in accordance with Article 31(4) DR, a UEFA Ethics and Disciplinary Inspector has been appointed to conduct a disciplinary investigation into events involving supporters which occurred inside and around the stadium."Information on this matter will be made available in due course."Despite pleas from Gareth Southgate not to do so, a large number of supporters booed the Italian national anthem when it was played before the game.RELATED ARTICLES
Covid outbreaks see a clutch of friendlies involving EFL clubs cancelledAnd a streaker also made it onto the pitch during the second half of the match before being led away by stewards.Speaking about the booing of the anthem, Italy defender Leonardo Bonucci insisted it simply gave he and his side extra motivation to win."They whistled the anthem. They thought they had brought it home," Bonucci told Radio RAI 1."This, to me and the old man there [Giorgio Chiellini] did nothing but increase our motivation. It was a personal satisfaction for me and Giorgio, who have not always been getting the praise we deserved."It is not yet clear exactly what punishment England will face, but a huge fine is likely.And their hopes of hosting World Cup 2030 appear to be all but over as a result of the shambles.138212091369The charges come three days after the FA was fined £25,630 for crowd problems, including the shining of a laser pointer at a player, during England’s semi-final win over Denmark.Danish goalkeeper Kasper Schmeichel had a laser directed at his face as he prepared to face a penalty in the game, also at Wembley, last Wednesday.The other offences were the booing of the national anthem and the setting off of fireworks.
"And, inevitably, the English FA are now set to face punishment, with UEFA also preparing to conduct a separate disciplinary investigation to look into exactly how things got so out of control outside the ground."
Not sure about how it works but thought stadiums were "controlled" by UEFA/FIFA when they were "hosting" events ?
There is a real risk of hyperbole running away here
I've seen the backward racial bile directed at the penalty missers unilaterally condemned, same for the selfish pricks rushing their way in to the stadium and the predictable but still unacceptable wrecking of trafalgar Square.
I'm not having that bullshit printed or put out by sensationalist rag "journalists"
1 moron ran on the pitch, punish that dickhead
This tournament has been brilliantly handled among a logistical nightmare with covid casting a shadow over the whole thing.
England and the Republic should absolutely still bid for the 2030 tournament and would be an excellent choice
It must be well over a million people now including me and lots of people on this site who have signed the petition to ban anyone who racially abuses a player for life from attending football grounds in the UK
Got to laugh at the foreign media, players and Uefa all coming out sticking the boot in. You have to laugh at the hypocrisy or simple lack of awareness of their own issues. Mr Bonucci, it was only the very previous evening where Italian supporters were booing the Spanish anthem and maybe the media could be a bit more clued up and ask Mr Bonucci or any of the Italian media why it is that when any English support travel to Italy, it is a forgone conclusion that some will get stabbed. Was it also not your County Mr Bonucci where racism has been evident and tolerated for donkeys years. Maybe he was not aware of Rome 97 when the Italian police thought any English were fair game for a batton. Maybe they could explain how some fans can carry a moped into the iconic San Siro abd drop it off the top tier.
If Russia and Qatar can have the world cup there is no way we should not. We are one of the most liberal and safe countries on the planet despite being imperfect.
If Russia and Qatar can have the world cup there is no way we should not. We are one of the most liberal and safe countries on the planet despite being imperfect.
But we broken UEFA only rule do not let it happen inside the stadium. As long as it doesn’t happen in the stadium, it’s not UEFA or FIFA’s problem. That is the most important rule to them and we broke it.
If Russia and Qatar can have the world cup there is no way we should not. We are one of the most liberal and safe countries on the planet despite being imperfect.
But we broken UEFA only rule do not let it happen inside the stadium. As long as it doesn’t happen in the stadium, it’s not UEFA or FIFA’s problem. That is the most important rule to them and we broke it.
Yup - their image come matchday is the one thing that matters for them
If Russia and Qatar can have the world cup there is no way we should not. We are one of the most liberal and safe countries on the planet despite being imperfect.
But we broken UEFA only rule do not let it happen inside the stadium. As long as it doesn’t happen in the stadium, it’s not UEFA or FIFA’s problem. That is the most important rule to them and we broke it.
Yup - their image come matchday is the one thing that matters for them
Unofficial number is 5K got in without tickets on Sunday. That is almost 10% of the capacity 60K. Sunday was a National embarrassment for FA, UEFA and The Met police.
Next big day is Champions League final in 2024 which is at Wembley.They’ve got 3 years to sort their shit out.
If Russia and Qatar can have the world cup there is no way we should not. We are one of the most liberal and safe countries on the planet despite being imperfect.
But we broken UEFA only rule do not let it happen inside the stadium. As long as it doesn’t happen in the stadium, it’s not UEFA or FIFA’s problem. That is the most important rule to them and we broke it.
Yup - their image come matchday is the one thing that matters for them
Unofficial number is 5K got in without tickets on Sunday. That is almost 10% of the capacity 60K. Sunday was a National embarrassment for FA, UEFA and The Met police.
Next big day is Champions League final in 2024. They’ve got 3 years to sort their shit out.
Thankfully its worth remembering that we've hosted a few Champions League finals that involve English and foreign teams, both of those events went very smoothly.
Unfortunately you have to imagine that UEFA / FIFA will remember the events on Sunday long before the ones I mention though!!
"Security at the match was organised by UEFA in conjunction with the FA and the Metropolitan Police." (Found this quote in an article "Inside Wembley" in The Daily Mirror).
If this is true are UEFA charging UEFA because of what happened on Sunday ?
If Russia and Qatar can have the world cup there is no way we should not. We are one of the most liberal and safe countries on the planet despite being imperfect.
But we broken UEFA only rule do not let it happen inside the stadium. As long as it doesn’t happen in the stadium, it’s not UEFA or FIFA’s problem. That is the most important rule to them and we broke it.
Yup - their image come matchday is the one thing that matters for them
Unofficial number is 5K got in without tickets on Sunday. That is almost 10% of the capacity 60K. Sunday was a National embarrassment for FA, UEFA and The Met police.
Next big day is Champions League final in 2024. They’ve got 3 years to sort their shit out.
Thankfully its worth remembering that we've hosted a few Champions League finals that involve English and foreign teams, both of those events went very smoothly.
Unfortunately you have to imagine that UEFA / FIFA will remember the events on Sunday long before the ones I mention though!!
2011 at Wembley did not go well between United and Barcelona. Stories of people climbing through the vents to get in the ground. Every big club in English has stories of hundreds bunking into free at every game at Wembley.
If Russia and Qatar can have the world cup there is no way we should not. We are one of the most liberal and safe countries on the planet despite being imperfect.
But we broken UEFA only rule do not let it happen inside the stadium. As long as it doesn’t happen in the stadium, it’s not UEFA or FIFA’s problem. That is the most important rule to them and we broke it.
Yup - their image come matchday is the one thing that matters for them
Unofficial number is 5K got in without tickets on Sunday. That is almost 10% of the capacity 60K. Sunday was a National embarrassment for FA, UEFA and The Met police.
Next big day is Champions League final in 2024. They’ve got 3 years to sort their shit out.
Thankfully its worth remembering that we've hosted a few Champions League finals that involve English and foreign teams, both of those events went very smoothly.
Unfortunately you have to imagine that UEFA / FIFA will remember the events on Sunday long before the ones I mention though!!
2011 at Wembley did not go well between United and Barcelona. Stories of people climbing through the vents to get in the ground. Every big club in English has stories of hundreds bunking into free at every game at Wembley.
If Russia and Qatar can have the world cup there is no way we should not. We are one of the most liberal and safe countries on the planet despite being imperfect.
But we broken UEFA only rule do not let it happen inside the stadium. As long as it doesn’t happen in the stadium, it’s not UEFA or FIFA’s problem. That is the most important rule to them and we broke it.
Yup - their image come matchday is the one thing that matters for them
Unofficial number is 5K got in without tickets on Sunday. That is almost 10% of the capacity 60K. Sunday was a National embarrassment for FA, UEFA and The Met police.
Next big day is Champions League final in 2024. They’ve got 3 years to sort their shit out.
Thankfully its worth remembering that we've hosted a few Champions League finals that involve English and foreign teams, both of those events went very smoothly.
Unfortunately you have to imagine that UEFA / FIFA will remember the events on Sunday long before the ones I mention though!!
2011 at Wembley did not go well between United and Barcelona. Stories of people climbing through the vents to get in the ground. Every big club in English has stories of hundreds bunking into free at every game at Wembley.
I shouldn't think the statement originally saying there hadnt been a breach has helped . Then the second saying a few fans had got in. 2 big lies right there. Up until sunday I thought jibbing was a thing of the past. 2021 and in England ,fans can jib /force thier way into Wembley.. Do we not have police Intel anymore? Fair enough to the authorities if those who forced thier way into the ground came out the blue. But even someone like me who doesn't use social media could find out on Twitter in 15 minutes there were plans to rush Wembley by quite a few people. The only good thing as far as I know was no one was seriously hurt.
I am too young to remember any of this, but how did the wider public see the treatment of David Beckham in 1998. I obviously remember the burning effegies, but did not know about the photo of him on a dart board. Did the wider public see as wrong, or was it just one of those things at that time.
I think he got dogs abuse playing for man U away for quite a while. I really hope that none of this England team get any of that crap this season. I don't think they will.
To the point where mancs used to retort with “Argentina, Argentina” when the oppo fans used to give his stick. The difference this time is that 99% of the population aren’t going to give the three lads any grief where Beckham was a sitting duck, courtesy of the tabloids. People talk about mental health, imagine somebody being treated like Beckham was now.
Beckham and Rooney got ten times the abuse The Penalty Three have received. They are getting widespread empathy and support from the masses like I’ve not seen before.
It’s such a shame that underneath the sensational abusive tip that can be evidenced and extrapolated by social media, the general public reaction to failure is far more mature and supportive than ever seen before.
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You’ll see dozens of accounts tweeting exactly the same letters and words in response to multiple different stories, usually with a targeted agenda against England. Those accounts always tend to be ‘anonymous’ but with the indication that they are not from the UK.
It sounds weird I know, but it is a thing.
Just been sent this:
'we’re English’: Europe’s press reacts to Euro 2020 chaos
The disorder and abuse that scarred England’s defeat by Italy met a scathing reaction from media across the continent
The booing of visiting teams’ national anthems, footage of fans without tickets breaking through barriers to get into Wembley and the online racist abuse of England’s unlucky penalty-takers has made many commentators in continental Europe question notions of English fair play.
“Where have the much-vaunted English qualities of fair play, respect and decency gone?” asked the French daily Libération. In an editorial, the newspaper’s foreign editor, Sonia Delesalle-Stolper, wrote: “The England team’s defeat has been sad for the players and for supporters who were enthused by this young, talented team representing a vibrant and diverse nation.
Victory would have been beautiful, but this defeat, this violence and racism, put the finger on a bitter truth. How to make oneself hated by all? Through these images, of a minority, certainly, but of a minority that is noisy, too visible and too tolerated. Alcohol does not explain everything.”
As the celebrations over Italy’s victory died down, the Italian press on Tuesday reflected on the violence and racism that marred the aftermath of the final, with La Repubblica describing Sunday night as “the darkest in English football”. Under the headline “No fair play, we’re English”, La Stampa’s Elena Stancanelli said the online racism against black players showed that England “has not learnt how to react to defeat”.
“Fights, howls, maskless crowds and racist slurs in the homeland of fair play,” read a headline in Il Sole 24 Ore. “We came back from London with contradictory feelings,” the article said. “The cup was in the suitcase … but our gaze remained on what was happening around us, before and after the final.”
The fact that England was hosting the final of a pan-European tournament, as well as its bid to co-host a World Cup with the Republic of Ireland in 2030, meant organisation around the Euro 2020 final and the behaviour of English fans were under intense scrutiny.
“There were only 1,500 fans from Italy – normally it is a third [of the crowd]”, said ethnologist Wolfgang Kaschuba on Germany’s Deutschlandfunk radio. “This balance of power should have obliged an elegant, cool and friendly host to deal with the situation fairly”.
Instead, wrote the Swiss tabloid Blick, “the English didn’t just lose a penalty shootout on Sunday … Because of the behaviour of some of their fans, the Three Lions also have to wave goodbye to a lot of respect from the rest of Europe”.
A reporter for the German broadsheet Die Zeit criticised the policing in and around the stadium. “That hundreds of fans ran over security guards to storm the stadium because they didn’t have a ticket was not only stupid, it was dangerous,” wrote Christian Spiller in an article simply headlined “Just embarrassing”. Spiller questioned why there had not been better security measures in a country that has been aware of the risks of overcrowding since the Hillsborough disaster.
“Of course, it was a minority that booed or fought or racially abused their own players,” wrote Spiller. “But even a minority can be a lot. Especially when they are loud and radical. Viewed from a distance, British national chauvinism has been more visible at this tournament than England’s progressive side. In the end it was the English fans who left us with the worst memories of these Euros.”
Süddeutsche Zeitung went further, directly linking scenes from the final in London to the British government. “The Johnson government had announced 19 July as ‘freedom day’, the day on which Brits could return to pre-pandemic routines. In fact, the masks already fell on the day of the final – and Johnson’s mask was pulled away the day after.”
The Spanish press was saddened, if far from surprised, by Sunday’s events. “England lost Euro 2020 but they also lost a huge opportunity to show that they’re an admirable team with exemplary fans,” was ABC’s take on the final.
El País’s London correspondent, Rafa de Miguel, offered a similar appraisal. “In the hours leading up to the Euro final, groups of England fans took it upon themselves to ruin the good image that Gareth Southgate’s squad had built up,” he wrote.
“Hundreds of hooligans clashed with the police at one of the Wembley entrances. They managed to jump the security fences and ended up on the floor in a disorderly scrum … beer bottles flew above the avenue that leads to the stadium and the floor was a corridor of broken glass and scattered rubbish.
“When the time came, and as tradition dictates, a good number of fans once again showed why it can be so hard for even those with the best will in the world to support the Three Lions,” De Miguel added. “And you can’t blame Brexit. All you have to do is look at what happened on the streets”.
For his colleague Walter Oppenheimer, Sunday – and indeed the path that had led to the final – revealed some deeper truths about England as both a team and a country.
“What happens with England when it comes to football happens with other things, too,” wrote Oppenheimer. “While it is a powerful, advanced and often generous country, ‘[and] a pioneer in disciplines from science to art and thought, it is also a petulant country, incapable of accepting its limitations.”
https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/when-david-beckham-was-most-hated-man-england-and-had-greatest-season-his-life
I really hope that none of this England team get any of that crap this season. I don't think they will.
ENGLAND FANS FIGHT OUTSIDE WEMBLEY STADIUM
England will face four charges from UEFA following the disgraceful scenes at Wembley Stadium both before and during their Euro 2020 final against Italy.Supporters were seen fighting amongst themselves, while hundreds who did not have tickets broke into the stadium.And, inevitably, the English FA are now set to face punishment, with UEFA also preparing to conduct a separate disciplinary investigation to look into exactly how things got so out of control outside the ground.A statement released by the organisation on Tuesday read: "Disciplinary proceedings have been opened following the UEFA EURO 2020 final match between the national teams of Italy and England (1-1, Italy won 3-2 on penalties), played on 11 July at Wembley Stadium, London.Charges against The English Football Association :• Invasion of the field of play by its supporters - Article 16(2)(a) of the UEFA Disciplinary Regulations (DR)• Throwing of objects by its supporters - Article 16(2)(b) DR
Not sure about how it works but thought stadiums were "controlled" by UEFA/FIFA when they were "hosting" events ?
I've seen the backward racial bile directed at the penalty missers unilaterally condemned, same for the selfish pricks rushing their way in to the stadium and the predictable but still unacceptable wrecking of trafalgar Square.
I'm not having that bullshit printed or put out by sensationalist rag "journalists"
1 moron ran on the pitch, punish that dickhead
This tournament has been brilliantly handled among a logistical nightmare with covid casting a shadow over the whole thing.
England and the Republic should absolutely still bid for the 2030 tournament and would be an excellent choice
It must be well over a million people now including me and lots of people on this site who have signed the petition to ban anyone who racially abuses a player for life from attending football grounds in the UK
People in glass houses...
Unfortunately you have to imagine that UEFA / FIFA will remember the events on Sunday long before the ones I mention though!!
"Security at the match was organised by UEFA in conjunction with the FA and the Metropolitan Police."
(Found this quote in an article "Inside Wembley" in The Daily Mirror).
If this is true are UEFA charging UEFA because of what happened on Sunday ?
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/jibbing-on-saturday.331446/
Forgot the article on Thursday which encouraged Sunday performance. The fact no one died on Sunday will probably keep key people out of jail.
https://inews.co.uk/news/england-vs-denmark-wembley-stadium-fans-without-ticket-euro-2020-semi-final-1093248
Then the second saying a few fans had got in.
2 big lies right there.
Up until sunday I thought jibbing was a thing of the past.
2021 and in England ,fans can jib /force thier way into Wembley..
Do we not have police Intel anymore?
Fair enough to the authorities if those who forced thier way into the ground came out the blue.
But even someone like me who doesn't use social media could find out on Twitter in 15 minutes there were plans to rush Wembley by quite a few people.
The only good thing as far as I know was no one was seriously hurt.