Very sad day for our club and for Jacko, this is not who we are as a club.
The combinations of Sandgaard’s parsimony and Nigel “I was a top manager ten years ago” Adkins incompetence killed our season by October.
Jackson picked up the pieces and did as well as you could expect given the train wreck he inherited, yes there were some bad days but there were more good ones as his record shows.
Bottom line? Sangaard has turned out to be the worst owner we have had since the wheels came off in 2007 with our relegation from the Premier League.
Sure, Roland was awful at first but eventually settled down a bit and learned to keep away, but Sangaard keeps intervening and getting the big calls completely wrong, simply because the man knows absolutely nothing about football whatsoever.
Very, very sad day for our club and we need this guy out of the club before we can progress.
This nonsense of wanting Jacko to finish 8th after taking over in the bottom four just suggests TS never really wanted him.
8th was achievable. Just needed to try something different now and then rather than persist with the wrong players.
With that team and those injuries he had zero chance of finishing 8th. Whoever played in what formation we were not as good at any level than any of the top 10 teams in this division.
I'm gutted but I have been concerned with the rigid formation, team selections, lack of plan b during the game and general body language that doesn't show much positivity.
I pigeon holed Jacko to be the refined and likeable version of Bowyer. If it was my dosh this summer, I'm not sure I'd like to end up next season with 6 wing backs and Gilbey.
The rigid formation means that we would have had to be very rigid in the transfer market.
Not sure he is worse than the ESI pillocks we had, but all that stuff about how we should pay is as cringe-making as all the earlier stuff about Europe in 5 years. Oh well.
Very sad day for our club and for Jacko, this is not who we are as a club.
The combinations of Sandgaard’s parsimony and Nigel “I was a top manager ten years ago” Adkins incompetence killed our season by October.
Jackson picked up the pieces and did as well as you could expect given the train wreck he inherited, yes there were some bad days but there were more good ones as his record shows.
Bottom line? Sangaard has turned out to be the worst owner we have had since the wheels came off in 2007 with our relegation from the Premier League.
Sure, Roland was awful at first but eventually settled down a bit and learned to keep away, but Sangaard keeps intervening and getting the big calls completely wrong, simply because the man knows absolutely nothing about football whatsoever.
Very, very sad day for our club and we need this guy out of the club before we can progress.
Sorry I tried to count to ten got to six and shouted ‘ what a load of bollox at the top of my voice’,
Very sad day for our club and for Jacko, this is not who we are as a club.
The combinations of Sandgaard’s parsimony and Nigel “I was a top manager ten years ago” Adkins incompetence killed our season by October.
Jackson picked up the pieces and did as well as you could expect given the train wreck he inherited, yes there were some bad days but there were more good ones as his record shows.
Bottom line? Sangaard has turned out to be the worst owner we have had since the wheels came off in 2007 with our relegation from the Premier League.
Sure, Roland was awful at first but eventually settled down a bit and learned to keep away, but Sangaard keeps intervening and getting the big calls completely wrong, simply because the man knows absolutely nothing about football whatsoever.
Very, very sad day for our club and we need this guy out of the club before we can progress.
Christ on a bike. That’s the biggest overreaction yet.
This is the critical point, I would say that Jackson knows a lot more about how to get out of League One than a Danish medical instrument salesman.
Under both Powell and Bowyer we played with a target man (Yan and Lyle) and were very physical, often bullying teams into submission under Powell with sheer physicality with massive units like Taylor, Cort and Morrison.
Jackson knows this and understands that getting out of League One requires a certain style of play, Sangaard will have to find this out the hard way.
This is the critical point, I would say that Jackson knows a lot more about how to get out of League One than a Danish medical instrument salesman.
Under both Powell and Bowyer we played with a target man (Yan and Lyle) and were very physical, often bullying teams into submission under Powell with sheer physicality with massive units like Taylor, Cort and Morrison.
Jackson knows this and understands that getting out of League One requires a certain style of play, Sangaard will have to find this out the hard way.
If TS wants a particular style of football, he needs to provide the money, structure and back room support to deliver it. I am starting to think he his part of the problem and just blames others.
Very sad day for our club and for Jacko, this is not who we are as a club.
The combinations of Sandgaard’s parsimony and Nigel “I was a top manager ten years ago” Adkins incompetence killed our season by October.
Jackson picked up the pieces and did as well as you could expect given the train wreck he inherited, yes there were some bad days but there were more good ones as his record shows.
Bottom line? Sangaard has turned out to be the worst owner we have had since the wheels came off in 2007 with our relegation from the Premier League.
Sure, Roland was awful at first but eventually settled down a bit and learned to keep away, but Sangaard keeps intervening and getting the big calls completely wrong, simply because the man knows absolutely nothing about football whatsoever.
Very, very sad day for our club and we need this guy out of the club before we can progress.
I think it’s rather naive to think that the owner of a professional football club (or any football club that costs money to run) doesn’t have some ‘input’ into how he wants the team to play - obviously it’s different layers, ranging from the extreme (Roland) to simply having your (I presume) weekly meeting with the manager, to talk about what is going on - after all it’s his / her money
If it was me - and I had shed loads of money - and I owned Charlton (and to be clear I would have also bought The Valley & Sparrows as well 😎) - my attitude would be :-
Lge 1 - just get us out, I don’t give a fuck how you do it, what style we play, just get us out of here
Champ - right, it’s changed now - I want us to play expansive, on the floor, wingers (I like a winger, both wings if possible), possession game, passing game etc etc
Because you need to prepare for the Prem
If I’m putting millions of my own money in, I’m entitled to my opinion - BUT I would always bow to the opinion of my manager, provided he puts forward a coherent counter story
And to be clear - that would be the extent of my ‘interference’ - no way would I suggest players to start etc
At the end of the day, manager gets it wrong, then it’s the sack race - as it has always been ….
This is the critical point, I would say that Jackson knows a lot more about how to get out of League One than a Danish medical instrument salesman.
Under both Powell and Bowyer we played with a target man (Yan and Lyle) and were very physical, often bullying teams into submission under Powell with sheer physicality with massive units like Taylor, Cort and Morrison.
Jackson knows this and understands that getting out of League One requires a certain style of play, Sangaard will have to find this out the hard way.
I partly agree, however the football played at this level has clearly moved on in the past 10 years. Players are more technical and although there are physical players the quality of the football is better. More teams play out from the back and barely anyone uses 4-4-2 with long balls to the big man. Clubs on small budgets play much more attractive football than us. Under Bowyer we played our best football in years, so we’ve even done it ourselves before.
I have no problem with an owner wanting a style, but given he’s not throwing money at it to buy promotion then there needs to be a balance between winning games and playing exciting football. The more important the style is to him the more patient he’ll have to be. He seems to see it as one and the same by claiming playing a high press increases our chances of promotion - that only works if we have the players to do it. At the moment this squad can’t keep up the required intensity.
Absolutely the correct decision. The acceptance of mediocrity on this forum baffles me at times. Undoubtedly a club legend but if anyone felt truly confident with Jacko in charge again next season I would be surprised. Tactically naive, poor man management skills (based on his touchline and interviews), looked and sounded defeated every post match interview after this initial bounce.
We are simply too big a club to let an ex player have his first stint and have a bit of trial and error with us. He should be earning his stripes in a non league side, not Charlton.
I actually feel excited/optimistic about next season now
all the best Jacko, can’t be described as anything else but a club legend
Are you out for a laugh?
Lennie Lawrence - appointed as CAFC manager in his FIRST management job.
Alan Curbishley - appointed as CAFC manager in his FIRST management job.
Chris Powell - appointed as CAFC manager in his FIRST management job.
Lee Bowyer - appointed as CAFC manager in his FIRST management job.
Very sad day for our club and for Jacko, this is not who we are as a club.
The combinations of Sandgaard’s parsimony and Nigel “I was a top manager ten years ago” Adkins incompetence killed our season by October.
Jackson picked up the pieces and did as well as you could expect given the train wreck he inherited, yes there were some bad days but there were more good ones as his record shows.
Bottom line? Sangaard has turned out to be the worst owner we have had since the wheels came off in 2007 with our relegation from the Premier League.
Sure, Roland was awful at first but eventually settled down a bit and learned to keep away, but Sangaard keeps intervening and getting the big calls completely wrong, simply because the man knows absolutely nothing about football whatsoever.
Very, very sad day for our club and we need this guy out of the club before we can progress.
Worst owner since 2007 - fuck a duck, have you been living under a rock since 2007 - idiotic post !!!
Very sad day for our club and for Jacko, this is not who we are as a club.
The combinations of Sandgaard’s parsimony and Nigel “I was a top manager ten years ago” Adkins incompetence killed our season by October.
Jackson picked up the pieces and did as well as you could expect given the train wreck he inherited, yes there were some bad days but there were more good ones as his record shows.
Bottom line? Sangaard has turned out to be the worst owner we have had since the wheels came off in 2007 with our relegation from the Premier League.
Sure, Roland was awful at first but eventually settled down a bit and learned to keep away, but Sangaard keeps intervening and getting the big calls completely wrong, simply because the man knows absolutely nothing about football whatsoever.
Very, very sad day for our club and we need this guy out of the club before we can progress.
I don't even know where to begin with that statement....
will always be a fan of jacko but tbh, although it was a bit of a shock, i'm not disappointed - the football has been turgid, the squad is shit and anything that indicates major change is happening is welcome as far as i'm concerned - just hope we employ somebody 'current' with a rfecent track record of success - if we employ some has been and sign 2 players this summer then TS will need to take a serious look at selling up - atm i'm still behind him but the next managerial appointment and our recruitment this summer will tell us if we're all wasting our time and his money
Yes he signed the contract during the week of the 13th December, just after beating Cambridge 2-0. We lost the next three games 1-0 at Plymouth, 1-0 vs Wycombe and 2-1 at Crewe which dropped us down to 14th.
At the stage he signed the contract we were 8 points off the play-off places, with 24 games left to play... looked pretty do-able to me?
Also looking at the table we were above Ipswich and Bolton at the time who finished what 10-12 points above us in the end?
Exactly, there's a lot of misinformation on CL tonight. Plus virtually everyone seemed pissed off & had little hope for next season, until JJ is sacked, then apparently half the fans are mortified.
Ridiculous, wasn’t given a fair crack of the whip, gutted for him, and us.
im on the edge of not renewing my ST, that I’ve held since 1992.
we really do have another clown at the helm…….
Are you a Charlton fan or a Jackson fan?
It's not about being a Jackson (as Manager) fan, we'll never really know if he was any good or not as he wasn't given the opportunity to build a squad (within a budget).
My overriding concern is an owner that interferes on the footballing side, one that thinks he knows better than seasoned pro's and makes their job almost impossible. Been here before haven't we? Look how that ended!
My prediction - we'll recruit players by panel. Get in a manager who won't fancy half of them and by January we'll be bottom 6. This will be last summer all over again, but much much worse.
Once I calm down I'll no doubt renew (badgered by two daughters) but usually the second the season finishes I can't wait for the next one to begin, right now I'm hoping it doesn't start until December!
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either that or TS is so full of shit he’s gonna paint himself orange and run for president…..
The combinations of Sandgaard’s parsimony and Nigel “I was a top manager ten years ago” Adkins incompetence killed our season by October.
Jackson picked up the pieces and did as well as you could expect given the train wreck he inherited, yes there were some bad days but there were more good ones as his record shows.
Bottom line? Sangaard has turned out to be the worst owner we have had since the wheels came off in 2007 with our relegation from the Premier League.
Sure, Roland was awful at first but eventually settled down a bit and learned to keep away, but Sangaard keeps intervening and getting the big calls completely wrong, simply because the man knows absolutely nothing about football whatsoever.
Very, very sad day for our club and we need this guy out of the club before we can progress.
I pigeon holed Jacko to be the refined and likeable version of Bowyer. If it was my dosh this summer, I'm not sure I'd like to end up next season with 6 wing backs and Gilbey.
The rigid formation means that we would have had to be very rigid in the transfer market.
Under both Powell and Bowyer we played with a target man (Yan and Lyle) and were very physical, often bullying teams into submission under Powell with sheer physicality with massive units like Taylor, Cort and Morrison.
Jackson knows this and understands that getting out of League One requires a certain style of play, Sangaard will have to find this out the hard way.
If it was me - and I had shed loads of money - and I owned Charlton (and to be clear I would have also bought The Valley & Sparrows as well 😎) - my attitude would be :-
Lge 1 - just get us out, I don’t give a fuck how you do it, what style we play, just get us out of here
Champ - right, it’s changed now - I want us to play expansive, on the floor, wingers (I like a winger, both wings if possible), possession game, passing game etc etc
Because you need to prepare for the Prem
If I’m putting millions of my own money in, I’m entitled to my opinion - BUT I would always bow to the opinion of my manager, provided he puts forward a coherent counter story
And to be clear - that would be the extent of my ‘interference’ - no way would I suggest players to start etc
At the end of the day, manager gets it wrong, then it’s the sack race - as it has always been ….
I have no problem with an owner wanting a style, but given he’s not throwing money at it to buy promotion then there needs to be a balance between winning games and playing exciting football. The more important the style is to him the more patient he’ll have to be. He seems to see it as one and the same by claiming playing a high press increases our chances of promotion - that only works if we have the players to do it. At the moment this squad can’t keep up the required intensity.
Lennie Lawrence - appointed as CAFC manager in his FIRST management job.
Chris Powell - appointed as CAFC manager in his FIRST management job.
Lee Bowyer - appointed as CAFC manager in his FIRST management job.
Sadly it won't be Keane.
Plus virtually everyone seemed pissed off & had little hope for next season, until JJ is sacked, then apparently half the fans are mortified.
My overriding concern is an owner that interferes on the footballing side, one that thinks he knows better than seasoned pro's and makes their job almost impossible. Been here before haven't we? Look how that ended!
My prediction - we'll recruit players by panel. Get in a manager who won't fancy half of them and by January we'll be bottom 6. This will be last summer all over again, but much much worse.
Once I calm down I'll no doubt renew (badgered by two daughters) but usually the second the season finishes I can't wait for the next one to begin, right now I'm hoping it doesn't start until December!