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Next manager - Ben Garner confirmed (p256)

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  • Cafc43v3r said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Bit of a left field name and hasn't really done much since leaving Huddersfield but what about David Wagner as an option? Would give TS his high press for sure. 
    Hasn't he just left a team that play in the champions league every season? 
    Yeah left Young Boys in Switzerland after coming 15 points behind FC Zurich. 

    I doubt there's any chance of him even being interested but I thought I'd suggest it anyway 
  • I was just thinking, would be really nice to have woken up this morning to find we have appointed a new manager, unless TS has someone very special and we are going walk the league, it really does all seem we are very pedestrian!
  • From Bob Peeters rigid formations where a great attacking full back like Rhoys Wiggins was told along with Solly to hold their positions to keep a four at the back, to JJ going with the 3 at the back but get your wing backs forward to counter. We did keep 14 clean sheets in the 33 games under Jackson but at other times we could get picked off.  Under Adkins this season we struggled as he didn't trust Clare and Dobson after a few games which told me the committee selected the players and Adkins was out voted because why would you lose confidence after just a few games?

    Under Bowyer we tried the A-Z plans. Sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn't. Have some quality in your side, and then most coaches will play to the strength of their quality players and the others have their backs and you create relationship all over the pitch. Formations to suit the players you have would always be best.

    Wigan got the balance right with their incomings last August where like the SAS they got in and out quickly and hit the ground running- with a big League 1 budget which helped. 

    Ipswich made the mistake of mainly getting forwards and early season gave away some terrible goals. They just about finished in the top half of the table but look set for a top 6 finish in 2022/23.

    Who ever we get as Manager, he needs a system where we have more control of games and there is a coherent strategy.

    Those of us who only had two training session a week at most to get our ideas across would love the luxury of the daily training.

    Our fate may be decided, not only in the August window and the incomings but the ability of players having a pre season together and bonding and knowing the shape formation and what is expected over a 46 game season.

    Anyone who thinks you can do most of your business on the last two days of the August windows is either clueless or has a really bad memory; no problem getting the likes of Yann later.

    New manager will be announce soon if JR is correct with a shortlist of six.


    Bang on. Look at the 2011/2012 Powell side. Controlled games and once we went 1-0 up we never looked like losing. 
  • PWADDICK said:

    Matt Taylor gone from 2/1 to 4/5 overnight, and before any says I know it doesn’t necessarily matter!
    Also JFH has dropped from 8/1 when also being rulled out of the job 
  • Another factor is will TS be giving out more these performance based contracts? 

    Not sure Beale would be happy to leave Villa if he gets very little compensation should we not make the play-offs. 

    It’s one thing to require the new manager to change the entire playing philosophy, which usually takes years, it’s another thing to expect immediate results.   
    yeah but we are in League 1...
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  • edited May 2022
    Both recommended by Lawrence and the cheap option I would suggest.
  • Rossman92 said:
    Croydon said:
    i hope TS gets Curbs in
    Our fanbase's obsession with the past is so odd 
    It would all go tits up and everyone’s perception of Curb’s would change. No. More. Club. Legends
    Define legend.  Taylor was a key part of our League One, record points total first team and most people would be happy with him.

    Previous connections or not, legends or not, simply get the best candidate.  


  • Matt Taylor now 1/2
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    Croydon said:
    Bearing in mind Curbs already works for the club on the tv channel and has seen most of our games last season.  I do think TS would be mad not to have a chat with him about footballing matters at the club and get his views. Might be worth considering involving him  if willing in the interview process. For I know that might already be happening or Curbs might prefer not to get involved with any of it.
    Curbs thinks Gilbey is good. That should be enough for you all to realise that he has been out of the game for too long.
    Curbs works for Charlton tv, I wouldn’t expect him to be overly critical of any of our players or managers on there or any other public forum. I would agree that he is too long out of the game to be our manager and can’t think why he would want to.

    But, and I’m happy for you to explain how this is wrong, I suspect he has got a lot more knowledge about professional football than TS and his son. And I can’t see that he wouldn’t be a fairly decent judge about our current strengths and weakness’s and what we might need to improve to challenge for promotion. That dispute him being so senile that he has made a few complimentary comments about a player who has underperformed for us.

    Just to be clear here, I’m not suggesting he should be our next manager, but someone who could give useful advice on who we appoint and maybe help to interview the candidates.
  • Croydon said:
    Bearing in mind Curbs already works for the club on the tv channel and has seen most of our games last season.  I do think TS would be mad not to have a chat with him about footballing matters at the club and get his views. Might be worth considering involving him  if willing in the interview process. For I know that might already be happening or Curbs might prefer not to get involved with any of it.
    Curbs thinks Gilbey is good. That should be enough for you all to realise that he has been out of the game for too long.
    Gilbey isn’t a bad player. I’ve seen him run games when he wants to. Sadly, that’s the problem. Sometimes he turns up, sometimes he doesn’t, same with Lee.
    Sorry, what's an example of when he has 'run a game'? He makes one run a game more like
  • Croydon said:
    Croydon said:
    Bearing in mind Curbs already works for the club on the tv channel and has seen most of our games last season.  I do think TS would be mad not to have a chat with him about footballing matters at the club and get his views. Might be worth considering involving him  if willing in the interview process. For I know that might already be happening or Curbs might prefer not to get involved with any of it.
    Curbs thinks Gilbey is good. That should be enough for you all to realise that he has been out of the game for too long.
    Gilbey isn’t a bad player. I’ve seen him run games when he wants to. Sadly, that’s the problem. Sometimes he turns up, sometimes he doesn’t, same with Lee.
    Sorry, what's an example of when he has 'run a game'? He makes one run a game more like
    It’s my opinion. You have a different one and that’s fine. I don’t have to explain every post on here. 
    Bad day?
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  • Croydon said:
    Croydon said:
    Croydon said:
    Bearing in mind Curbs already works for the club on the tv channel and has seen most of our games last season.  I do think TS would be mad not to have a chat with him about footballing matters at the club and get his views. Might be worth considering involving him  if willing in the interview process. For I know that might already be happening or Curbs might prefer not to get involved with any of it.
    Curbs thinks Gilbey is good. That should be enough for you all to realise that he has been out of the game for too long.
    Gilbey isn’t a bad player. I’ve seen him run games when he wants to. Sadly, that’s the problem. Sometimes he turns up, sometimes he doesn’t, same with Lee.
    Sorry, what's an example of when he has 'run a game'? He makes one run a game more like
    It’s my opinion. You have a different one and that’s fine. I don’t have to explain every post on here. 
    Bad day?
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  • Incredibly uncredible I should think. However, I reckon the signs are pointing to it happening soon.
  • Incredibly uncredible I should think. However, I reckon the signs are pointing to it happening soon.
    Only has 152 followers, so can't believe freelance Dann has got much right in the year he's been on Twitter
  • Croydon said:
    Bearing in mind Curbs already works for the club on the tv channel and has seen most of our games last season.  I do think TS would be mad not to have a chat with him about footballing matters at the club and get his views. Might be worth considering involving him  if willing in the interview process. For I know that might already be happening or Curbs might prefer not to get involved with any of it.
    Curbs thinks Gilbey is good. That should be enough for you all to realise that he has been out of the game for too long.
    Probably different interpretations of ‘good’. I think Gilbey is good in the sense that he has the technical  ability to travel with the ball at his feet with pace far higher than the vast majority of players at L1 level, and that should be a real asset to the team. But it’s not been utilised in the right way, attacking the right zones from the right angles, and I think overall he had a poor season. I’m sure there are varying reasons for that. 

    Curbs can bring me in as his young assistant if he likes…
    He is good at that one thing, and it is usually worthless as his final ball/end product is poor so all he is good for is getting us up the pitch. He can’t pass, can’t tackle, goes hiding/missing often. He was really good when JJ first took over, he was also good when Adkins first took over. But outside of those 2 short spells he’s been really poor for 2 years. I hope he isn’t near the team next year 
  • The fact it was set up in March 2021 and has only tweeted a couple of times, I’d say it’s not credible. 
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