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Next manager - Ben Garner confirmed (p256)

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  • IAgree said:
    The clock is ticking, the team is sparse, it’s pretty clear that there wasn’t a plan in place two weeks ago and the well intentioned father / son team are giving every indication that they will be involved in recruitment and tactics.

    It’s getting more difficult to remain positive and I wonder how many lessons have actually been learned.
    Unless there was a plan but it's fallen through after the first choice turned it down? Not good either way of course.
  • SamB09 said:
    Of the current bottom 5 in the table newcastle spent 90m and the next biggest spender was everton at 40m. Howe did Newcastle manage to escape relegation i wonder?!?!  :D
    Newcastle's net spend in the last five years is £170m and that is largely the make up of their squad. Everton (10 points behind Newcastle) have had a net spend of £300m in that time. Aston Villa (2 points behind) net spend is £230m. Man Utd's is £410m and they are just 12 points above Newcastle.

    Equally, the four players signed for that £90m have started 44 games between them in the PL - in reality, they've filled 1.5 of the 11, on average, of the XI starting for Newcastle in the time that Howe has been there. Trippier has only started 4 matches. We should also remember that their number one striker, Wilson has only played in 9 of the 27 games that Howe has been in charge for.

    So, undoubtedly, the players signed in January have helped but ones like Shelvey for example, until he got injured, looked totally differently to the one when Bruce was in charge. Fraser, the bloke who walked out on Howe and Bournemouth, was in good form but then got injured too. And players that join new clubs don't necessarily turn it on straightaway for their new teams. Just look at our Fraser or Kirk as examples of that - both meant to be a cut above League 1 level.

    So it's not just about money. If it was then Man United would be comfortably in the top four right now. It's about getting the recruitment right and getting the most out of the players at a manager's disposal.
  • Scoham said:
    Would it be such a huge surprise ?
  • Scoham said:
    Well it would be our most ridiculous appointment ever by far, and we've had Karel Fraeye as manager.
    Karel didn't have a hard shot though......
  • Is TS even in the country?
    3AM interviews are never good
    TS is not doing the interviews, Martin is. Finish up by 7pm and then he nips the hoover round and empties the bins.

    The geezer is everywhere. 
  • Just be grateful Sol Campbell hasn’t been mentioned for us yet!
  • Swisdom said:
    Just be grateful Sol Campbell hasn’t been mentioned for us yet!
    Only because the press are linking him to QPR, if they weren't......
  • Or we are still interviewing candidates,

    Or we are still negotiating terms,

    Or numerous other possible reasons.

    But guaranteed it isn't true, that the only possible reason we haven't appointed a manager, is because they are a manager of a play off team. It's one of many possibilities.
    Gareth Ainsworth would be nice, although I imagine he is on a big contract at Wycombe.
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  • Gareth Ainsworth would be nice, although I imagine he is on a big contract at Wycombe.
    Could he fill the QPR if they lose, or even if they don't, on Saturday?  Could get the market moving.  Its probably the only job that has a direct impact on who we can or can't get.
  • IAgree said:
    The clock is ticking, the team is sparse, it’s pretty clear that there wasn’t a plan in place two weeks ago and the well intentioned father / son team are giving every indication that they will be involved in recruitment and tactics.

    It’s getting more difficult to remain positive and I wonder how many lessons have actually been learned.
    There not involved in either .. inputting data and giving the results to SG that’s MS job  
  • wmcf123 said:
    Would it be such a huge surprise ?


    Actually it’s some bloke called Sangaard 🤣
  • Here's  the type of manager we need.

    Winner, at ease with Royalty
    Someone with a monstrous god-like apparition hovering large, behind?
  • There not involved in either .. inputting data and giving the results to SG that’s MS job  
    Why, in the name of all that is Holy, do you keep saying this?

    Thomas, Gallen, Adkins, Jackson and God knows who else have said they are.  Yet every day you come on here and say they aren’t.

    Why?
  • Scoham said:
    It’s been tweaked by a fan! It’s BS can’t even spell his name right😂
  • This is all feeling like last summer but worse. Then we were just waiting for some incoming players. Now we're waiting for manager, then players. If we couldn't find a squad in the time available with a manager in place how the fuck are we going to rebuild without a manager? Wimbledon seemed to move quickly enough. Evidently there was no plan. Fucking Charlton

  • Martin having a strong shot definitely helps his odds!
  • This is all feeling like last summer but worse. Then we were just waiting for some incoming players. Now we're waiting for manager, then players. If we couldn't find a squad in the time available with a manager in place how the fuck are we going to rebuild without a manager? Wimbledon seemed to move quickly enough. Evidently there was no plan. Fucking Charlton

    You have to wonder if TS would be able to attract a manager with any clout. He hasn't managed it to date and he's had two go's already.
    Would think the most head strong of successful managers would listen to how TS intends on doing things and would run a mile.
    As I said, expect to be very underwhelmed. Unless TS alters is pig headed stance then this club will never prosper imho.
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Could he fill the QPR if they lose, or even if they don't, on Saturday?  Could get the market moving.  Its probably the only job that has a direct impact on who we can or can't get.
    Even Money on BetVic to be the next Blackburn Manager. Think he would do a decent job up there.
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  • Even Money on BetVic to be the next Blackburn Manager. Think he would do a decent job up there.
    He'll be going back home:

    Ainsworth was born in Blackburn. His mother worked as a professional singer during the 1960s while his father worked in several different jobs including a bookmakers, a driving instructor and a factory clerk. His parents were avid music fans and his mother taught Ainsworth to sing as a child. He is a supporter of Blackburn Rovers and became a season ticket holder at the age of six.
  • mendonca said:
    Martin having a strong shot definitely helps his odds!
    Chuck 20 pounds on him and he will be in single figure odds by the morning 
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    So was Klopp.

    None of them were great players.  Neither were Van Gaal, Joachim Löw, or many many others.  

    Very very few people are great at both.  

    Funny enough Paisley sort of proves the point he is still only one of 5 people to win the english league as both a player and manager.  Not much less than have done it in the world Cup.
    9 not 5
  • Wonder if Shaun Bartlett has gone for it…

    He had ‘joked’ about ‘what he needed to do to be considered’, and would tick boxes for TS for having international audiences - he’s popular in SA

    Has done quite a bit of coaching, and looks like he’s stepping up into managerial roles
  • If we all stick a fiver on MS so he leads the odds, we give TS a fallback position that he was the fans’ favourite if/when it doesn’t work out?
  • Swisdom said:
    No way should Howe get manager of the year. 

    he spent a lot of money and all he had to do was tell them to stop playing shit.  They had a number of decent players underperforming because of the shit manager

    steve Bruce is about as good as Iain dowie these days and he zapped any momentum they had.  He’s an atmosphere hoover of a man
    Rubbish comment about Howe. He has done wonders and worked his arse off.
  • Marcelo Bielsa?
  • Marcelo Bielsa?
    Stop it. Although if he’s realistic and available he’s easily first choice 
  • This is all feeling like last summer but worse. Then we were just waiting for some incoming players. Now we're waiting for manager, then players. If we couldn't find a squad in the time available with a manager in place how the fuck are we going to rebuild without a manager? Wimbledon seemed to move quickly enough. Evidently there was no plan. Fucking Charlton

    There is a difference to last year. Due to the World Cup the season starts at the end of July.
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