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Miles Leaburn - out til end of season (p74)

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  • Unfortunately I think Miles will be off at the end of the season regardless of where we end up. Someone like Brentford or Brighton will take a punt on him but for nowhere near the money being mentioned on here unless he goes on a goal scoring streak for the remainder of the season
  • wmcf123 said:
    AndyG said:
    Unfortunately I think Miles will be off at the end of the season regardless of where we end up. Someone like Brentford or Brighton will take a punt on him but for nowhere near the money being mentioned on here unless he goes on a goal scoring streak for the remainder of the season
    I don’t think he’s a premier league player 
    Nor do I mate but I think either of those might take a punt on his potential for the right money which imo is nowhere near the sums being mentioned on here. I really like the lad but at the moment he has a lot to prove to live up to the expectation on here 
  • I think he's regressed a bit since his injury, I suspect it's more likely to be a Championship club taking a punt on him. 

    After all when Konsa left us, he went to a well run but middling Championship club (at the time) in Brentford, and Leaburn feels more like a Konsa, Doughty or a Karlan Grant than a Lookman or Gomez at the moment. 
  • Leaburn looked like he had a bit more pace prior to the injury. Unless he can demonstrate that he's still got an extra gear I don't see him going to a Premier League club
  • edited March 16
    I agree he looks like he's lost something, but it could also be not having a pre-season, paired with the workrate NJ's teams demand. I would have jelly legs after all that running. He's not had that much game time either, so he's always playing catch-up with his fitness. 

    I find him a bit strange at times because he's clearly got the technical ability to go past people and score lovely goals like the ones at Exeter, but at the same time, his first touch can be so erratic. If he sorts that out, he can go far. But he'll struggle to play Prem football with his current first touch.
  • He's not been on form since his purple patch he had a couple of months ago but that doesn't mean to say he's not still got that potential within him we're just not seeing it presently.

    Lets see how he does with a good rest and a full pre-season behind him if he can stay injury free too. On present form he's probably at his level currently.
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  • AndyG said:
    Unfortunately I think Miles will be off at the end of the season regardless of where we end up. Someone like Brentford or Brighton will take a punt on him but for nowhere near the money being mentioned on here unless he goes on a goal scoring streak for the remainder of the season
    I don't think he's anywhere near the level of player they'd sign. Yes if it was the Brighton and Brentford of 2-3 years ago, but both clubs fish in very different waters now. Brighton for example signed 7 players for 20m or more in the past year.

    Brighton just bought a 19 year old Greek striker for 20m in January.
    Those facts are thoroughly alarming about the state of the so-called pyramid.
  • AndyG said:
    Unfortunately I think Miles will be off at the end of the season regardless of where we end up. Someone like Brentford or Brighton will take a punt on him but for nowhere near the money being mentioned on here unless he goes on a goal scoring streak for the remainder of the season
    I don't think he's anywhere near the level of player they'd sign. Yes if it was the Brighton and Brentford of 2-3 years ago, but both clubs fish in very different waters now. Brighton for example signed 7 players for 20m or more in the past year.

    Brighton just bought a 19 year old Greek striker for 20m in January.
    Those facts are thoroughly alarming about the state of the so-called pyramid.
    Because teams who played lower down the pyramid have managed to become successful and challenge near the top of that pyramid? Surely that shows some positives about the pyramid, not something that would happen in most European countries 
  • fenaddick said:


    Some more stats on Miles “doesn’t win any headers” Leaburn here
    So he's 6'6'' and has won a net 6 headers this season.
    I like Leaburn but I wouldn't call them stats impressive.
    Now, if he was 5'6'' ...... 
  • Miles has returned from a long layoff after a major injury, he is young and I doubt up to full match fitness so give the lad time and understanding
    That argument might hold some weight if he hadn’t been back playing for 5 months
  • Miles has returned from a long layoff after a major injury, he is young and I doubt up to full match fitness so give the lad time and understanding
    I don't think anyone's having a dig at Leaburn just because they don't think he's currently good enough to land a move to a Premier League club in the summer.
  • arny23394 said:
    Miles has returned from a long layoff after a major injury, he is young and I doubt up to full match fitness so give the lad time and understanding
    That argument might hold some weight if he hadn’t been back playing for 5 months
    wow! didn't realise he had been back for that long, you're right
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  • edited March 16
    I'm not sure the absolute NUMBER of headers won is that meaningful an individual stat, as it's more a sign of how a team plays. We're more direct than some of the other, so the No 9 will have more headers than if he played for a tiki-taka team.

    The win/loss ratio is a better indicator, it's just better than 50/50, which definitely puts him at the higher end, but behind real aerial beasts like Wootton, Palmer and Steven Fletcher. 
  • AndyG said:
    Unfortunately I think Miles will be off at the end of the season regardless of where we end up. Someone like Brentford or Brighton will take a punt on him but for nowhere near the money being mentioned on here unless he goes on a goal scoring streak for the remainder of the season
    I don't think he's anywhere near the level of player they'd sign. Yes if it was the Brighton and Brentford of 2-3 years ago, but both clubs fish in very different waters now. Brighton for example signed 7 players for 20m or more in the past year.

    Brighton just bought a 19 year old Greek striker for 20m in January.
    Those facts are thoroughly alarming about the state of the so-called pyramid.
    Brighton and Brentford rarely make significant buys from the EFL anyway. Palace tend to do so more regularly, e.g. Esse this January, Wharton last January, while Ipswich this season have bought a lot of Championship players.
  • I'm not sure the absolute NUMBER of headers won is that meaningful an individual stat, as it's more a sign of how a team plays. We're more direct than some of the other, so the No 9 will have more headers than if he played for a tiki-taka team.

    The win/loss ratio is a better indicator, it's just better than 50/50, which definitely puts him at the higher end, but behind real aerial beasts like Wootton, Palmer and Steven Fletcher. 
    All three who are very experienced players with well over 1,000 appearances between them.
  • fenaddick said:
    AndyG said:
    Unfortunately I think Miles will be off at the end of the season regardless of where we end up. Someone like Brentford or Brighton will take a punt on him but for nowhere near the money being mentioned on here unless he goes on a goal scoring streak for the remainder of the season
    I don't think he's anywhere near the level of player they'd sign. Yes if it was the Brighton and Brentford of 2-3 years ago, but both clubs fish in very different waters now. Brighton for example signed 7 players for 20m or more in the past year.

    Brighton just bought a 19 year old Greek striker for 20m in January.
    Those facts are thoroughly alarming about the state of the so-called pyramid.
    Because teams who played lower down the pyramid have managed to become successful and challenge near the top of that pyramid? Surely that shows some positives about the pyramid, not something that would happen in most European countries 
    Germany. With the exception that Bayern nearly always are champions, below that its very fluid.
  • fenaddick said:
    AndyG said:
    Unfortunately I think Miles will be off at the end of the season regardless of where we end up. Someone like Brentford or Brighton will take a punt on him but for nowhere near the money being mentioned on here unless he goes on a goal scoring streak for the remainder of the season
    I don't think he's anywhere near the level of player they'd sign. Yes if it was the Brighton and Brentford of 2-3 years ago, but both clubs fish in very different waters now. Brighton for example signed 7 players for 20m or more in the past year.

    Brighton just bought a 19 year old Greek striker for 20m in January.
    Those facts are thoroughly alarming about the state of the so-called pyramid.
    Because teams who played lower down the pyramid have managed to become successful and challenge near the top of that pyramid? Surely that shows some positives about the pyramid, not something that would happen in most European countries 
    Germany. With the exception that Bayern nearly always are champions, below that its very fluid.
    Not in the third or fourth tier up to the top and competing for Europe. Leipzig are the only team I can think of that have done that off the top of my head and they're a special case. 
  • fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    AndyG said:
    Unfortunately I think Miles will be off at the end of the season regardless of where we end up. Someone like Brentford or Brighton will take a punt on him but for nowhere near the money being mentioned on here unless he goes on a goal scoring streak for the remainder of the season
    I don't think he's anywhere near the level of player they'd sign. Yes if it was the Brighton and Brentford of 2-3 years ago, but both clubs fish in very different waters now. Brighton for example signed 7 players for 20m or more in the past year.

    Brighton just bought a 19 year old Greek striker for 20m in January.
    Those facts are thoroughly alarming about the state of the so-called pyramid.
    Because teams who played lower down the pyramid have managed to become successful and challenge near the top of that pyramid? Surely that shows some positives about the pyramid, not something that would happen in most European countries 
    Germany. With the exception that Bayern nearly always are champions, below that its very fluid.
    Not in the third or fourth tier up to the top and competing for Europe. Leipzig are the only team I can think of that have done that off the top of my head and they're a special case. 
    Union Berlin!! A much better example than the tin can club. Bear in mind also two important things. The 3rd division has only been national and fully professional since 2008. And many big clubs in East Germany (not the tin can club) have been financially crippled since reunification. These are both big issues that the modern English league has not had to address.

    Alex Fynn says that "pyramid" is not a good description for the English league structure any more. He prefers (as I recall the words "Tower block with huge penthouses at the top, supported by very shaky foundations below it"
  • arny23394 said:
    Miles has returned from a long layoff after a major injury, he is young and I doubt up to full match fitness so give the lad time and understanding
    That argument might hold some weight if he hadn’t been back playing for 5 months
    Listen to Steve Brown. Professional footballer who has been there and done that (including a year out as a young developing player. 
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