Andy Scott would not come here to source free transfers from div 2
Exactly, seems very odd that a premier league level recruiter would drop down to league 1. Maybe for more responsibility? But I can’t see him wanting to work with the budget cuts we’ve seen this season
Where?
He just got sacked from the Championship and never held a Premier League post?
Forest sacked him on 11th October 2022...
Yeah couple of months late I suppose. 2 months is bags of experience.
Two months is still longer than never holding a Premier League post
Les Reed managed us in the Premier League. He's a manager with Premier League experience.
So what is the news us fans are meant to be excited about, this big announcement, surely not what is being mentioned
Personally going to wait until I can see more of the picture. There is clearly much more going on.
That's my view too. There maybe nothing else going on, but I'll take a new manager without prejudging, and wait and see if we are gong to see some competent football people incoming. No sense in going overbaord either way, none of us are going to be asked for approval, and my applause comes for a job well done, not a load of overhyped nonsenes before a ball has been kicked in anger. But I will add a change of manager on it's own won't help.
Andy Scott would not come here to source free transfers from div 2
Exactly, seems very odd that a premier league level recruiter would drop down to league 1. Maybe for more responsibility? But I can’t see him wanting to work with the budget cuts we’ve seen this season
Where?
He just got sacked from the Championship and never held a Premier League post?
Forest sacked him on 11th October 2022...
Yeah couple of months late I suppose. 2 months is bags of experience.
Two months is still longer than never holding a Premier League post
Les Reed managed us in the Premier League. He's a manager with Premier League experience.
Means fuck all.
You're completely ignoring the context of my comment.
SELR claimed that Andy Scott had never held a Premier League post... I was correcting him
Ha ha!!! We've got Dean Holden!! In your face, Premier League Palarse!! Stick it up where the sun don't shine, performing-above-your-stature Millwall!! We're coming to get you, all the other London sides that we've fallen so far behind (yes, I'm talking about you, Brentford!)! Mark the date, boys, the date when the tide turned, the Holden express fired up its engines for the first time, HMS PTL was champagne-launched from its dry dock. Holden is the Baz McCullum of footy, with Jayden Stokesley leading the line. Wingers who learn revolutionary new skills, like crossing a ball! It doesn't matter if Inniss concedes 2 a game, he'll score 4! The days of mediocrity are gone! The sun rises for a new dawn, a red dawn, a new era of glory. You nay-sayers who cry 'cheap option!', 'Skintgaard!', 'he'll be gone in 6 months!'... fools, the lot of you! We have Holden, and soon he'll have a stand named after him. We hear the battle cry!
If results stay rubbish it will be difficult to sympathise with him like we did with Garner as he’s an out of work manager who will have known exactly what basket case of a club he’s got himself into
Charlton Athletic can confirm the departure of Dean Holden as the club’s men’s first-team Manager.
Owner Thomas Sandgaard said: “We would like to thank Dean for his hard work and commitment to the job. In his time at Charlton. Unfortunately, we haven’t been able to sustain a consistency of results and our league position and recent form have left us in a situation where we had to act to give ourselves the best opportunity to get the most from this season as well as building a positive and winning environment for future years.
Some of the comments on here are very similar to the ones on the Ben Garner thread before he was announced.
We gave Garner a chance and in the end 85/90% (or thereabouts on the leave/stay poll) wanted him to stay.
I know someone who knows him personally and he's a great guy apparently so lets give him a chance and see what happens. You never know we might like him.
Ha ha!!! We've got Dean Holden!! In your face, Premier League Palarse!! Stick it up where the sun don't shine, performing-above-your-stature Millwall!! We're coming to get you, all the other London sides that we've fallen so far behind (yes, I'm talking about you, Brentford!)! Mark the date, boys, the date when the tide turned, the Holden express fired up its engines for the first time, HMS PTL was champagne-launched from its dry dock. Holden is the Baz McCullum of footy, with Jayden Stokesley leading the line. Wingers who learn revolutionary new skills, like crossing a ball! It doesn't matter if Inniss concedes 2 a game, he'll score 4! The days of mediocrity are gone! The sun rises for a new dawn, a red dawn, a new era of glory. You nay-sayers who cry 'cheap option!', 'Skintgaard!', 'he'll be gone in 6 months!'... fools, the lot of you! We have Holden, and soon he'll have a stand named after him. We hear the battle cry!
To be honest, I think he could be half decent appointment, but anyone that comes in needs time and be backed.. So it makes no difference really who comes in!
Clearly a lot is happening - and either TS is making the changes or the new guys are putting this in place, time will tell! But whatever happens, the manager needs to be supported and time!
All we can do is give the bloke a chance..its not his fault that he inherits an unbalanced squad...criticism of him and the players from the off won't get us anywhere
Well wish the guy the best of luck, but by god he is going to need a lot more than luck to get us out of this terrible situation. The main criteria for me is will he be given any financial resources to rebuild the team, in January, and if he is still here in the summer?. I appreciate we are not going to get a seasoned manager, I mean who in there right mind want to come to this club at the moment?
Frankly, unless significant investment is put into the team, and several players moved on I fear not only for our status in this league, let alone getting back to the Championship. With the current owner, and lease arrangement with RD the investment will need to be very significant, let alone the rebuild of this team.
I am afraid I have lost all confidence in the current owner, who promised a golden future, and I can only assume is looking for a way out.? ...... if he had any sense. Clearly his vision and football management as well as choice of managers has been at best underwhelming.
It has often been difficult to be a CAFC supporter in my 60 odd years as man and boy, we can but hope that things change, not with false messiahs, billionaire owners, and unrealistic pipe dreams that have been promised over the past years.
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Les Reed managed us in the Premier League. He's a manager with Premier League experience.
Means fuck all.
But I will add a change of manager on it's own won't help.
SELR claimed that Andy Scott had never held a Premier League post... I was correcting him
How can anyone respond differently?
Charlton Athletic can confirm the departure of Dean Holden as the club’s men’s first-team Manager.
Owner Thomas Sandgaard said: “We would like to thank Dean for his hard work and commitment to the job. In his time at Charlton. Unfortunately, we haven’t been able to sustain a consistency of results and our league position and recent form have left us in a situation where we had to act to give ourselves the best opportunity to get the most from this season as well as building a positive and winning environment for future years.
Sorry...just getting prepared
We gave Garner a chance and in the end 85/90% (or thereabouts on the leave/stay poll) wanted him to stay.
I know someone who knows him personally and he's a great guy apparently so lets give him a chance and see what happens. You never know we might like him.
I've done the numbers and if we extrapolate that from here, we should finish on 99 points, which will be enough to win the league.
Let's hope he's in charge tomorrow night. I never thought I'd see Charlton do the double.
I hope that's true.
Clearly a lot is happening - and either TS is making the changes or the new guys are putting this in place, time will tell! But whatever happens, the manager needs to be supported and time!
"When will Dean Holden be charltonised and inevitably sacked?"
January: 10/1
February: 8/1
April: 6/4
June: 3/1
September: 5/1
Frankly, unless significant investment is put into the team, and several players moved on I fear not only for our status in this league, let alone getting back to the Championship.
With the current owner, and lease arrangement with RD the investment will need to be very significant, let alone the rebuild of this team.
I am afraid I have lost all confidence in the current owner, who promised a golden future, and I can only assume is looking for a way out.? ...... if he had any sense. Clearly his vision and football management as well as choice of managers has been at best underwhelming.
It has often been difficult to be a CAFC supporter in my 60 odd years as man and boy, we can but hope that things change, not with false messiahs, billionaire owners, and unrealistic pipe dreams that have been promised over the past years.