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Dean Holden - Jan 2025: joined the coaching staff at Adana Demispor in Turkey (p47)

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  • stonemuse said:
    If it’s Holden, then TS is staying in charge for the foreseeable future.  
    And we'll end the season being relegated to L2.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,338
    So what can this bloke do that Garner can't? 
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,886
    edited December 2022
    Dean Holden Managerial record by team and tenure;

    Dean HoldenManagerial record by team and tenure
    TeamFromToRecord
    PWDLWin %
    Oldham Athletic25 February 20155 May 20151535720.0
    Bristol City5 July 202016 February 2021411851843.9
    Stoke City(caretaker)26 August 202227 August 20221100100.0
    Total5722102538.6
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,016
    Leuth said:
    So what can this bloke do that Garner can't? 
    Fuck all 
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    The hotline for all this is @bobmunro of this parish because he is connected to the Coates family.

    https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-manager-dean-holden-7518921
  • billysboots
    billysboots Posts: 1,596
    Leuth said:
    So what can this bloke do that Garner can't? 
    Keep quiet when he learns the full extent of the Sandgaard sh@tshow
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,001
    Holden appointed when he potentially doesn’t know who will be in charge. 
    Just more circus acts that add up to a spiral downwards for CAFC.
    It’s beyond a mess now. 
  • https://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?/topic/210911-holden-sack-or-keep/page/15/

    Well worth a read for a look into what we could be about to witness. 
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,076
    https://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?/topic/210911-holden-sack-or-keep/page/15/

    Well worth a read for a look into what we could be about to witness. 
    Sounds promising then

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  • CH4RLTON
    CH4RLTON Posts: 2,618
    I mean reading that link, isnt this what all fans would say on the back of a bad run. For what it is worth, having spoken to a few Stoke supporting friends, he is very much a defensive minded coach and tbh that is exactly what we need in the moment. If he comes in gets few wins and clean sheets and gets us way from the drop zone whilst all the other crap sorts itself out then good
  • Laddick01
    Laddick01 Posts: 6,396
    Need to up the ante on TS now. What a farce, we've actually downgraded.


  • billysboots
    billysboots Posts: 1,596
    CH4RLTON said:
    I mean reading that link, isnt this what all fans would say on the back of a bad run. For what it is worth, having spoken to a few Stoke supporting friends, he is very much a defensive minded coach and tbh that is exactly what we need in the moment. If he comes in gets few wins and clean sheets and gets us way from the drop zone whilst all the other crap sorts itself out then good
    Wasn’t he only in charge for one game at stoke ?
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,886
    edited December 2022
    ‘Holden was a defender who was comfortable playing at right-back and centre-back. Over a sixteen-year playing career, he amassed 369 league appearances in representing ten clubs mainly in the lower leagues scoring 22 goals’. 
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,886
    edited December 2022
    CH4RLTON said:
    I mean reading that link, isnt this what all fans would say on the back of a bad run. For what it is worth, having spoken to a few Stoke supporting friends, he is very much a defensive minded coach and tbh that is exactly what we need in the moment. If he comes in gets few wins and clean sheets and gets us way from the drop zone whilst all the other crap sorts itself out then good
    Wasn’t he only in charge for one game at stoke ?
    Yep, See managerial stats above 😉. He was however Assistant manager there for 16 months to Michael O’Neill.
  • This is all @bobmunro's doing and guilt has got the better of him in recommending Holden to TS. That said, it can't have been easy to hand Holden his P45 after the Stoke Manager guided the team through what must have been an extremely turbulent period at the club (48 hours) and during which time he produced a 100% win record. I'm sure we'll be happy if Holden can match that here. The 100% record not the 48 hours, that is, even if the latter ends up being nearer the mark. 
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 10,972
    Leuth said:
    So what can this bloke do that Garner can't? 
    Go to work on boxing day
  • Dean Holden isn't a disastrous appointment, but is a pretty underwhelming one. It's difficult to know what his style of football is, though you'd hope he could organise the defence better.

    On the other hand this article is reasonably positive about him and it's worth noting that Brizzle haven't obviously improved since he was replaced by Nigel Pearson

    https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/3-reasons-why-appointing-dean-holden-as-manager-is-a-risk-worth-taking-for-charlton-athletic/
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,468
    I honestly thought Dean Holden was former US international Stuart Holden. It's got so bad I literally don't know who our rumoured new manager is which is something I haven't experienced since about 2015.

    Sandgaard really is Duchatelet all over again.
    Stuart Holden does commentary for Fox over here. I wish he'd take a managerial job so I didn't have to listen to him. 

    I would say, did you know who Garner, Adkins, Michael Beale, even Nathan Jones were before they were linked to us? I'm not exactly wowed but the appointment, but he has managed twice in the Championship, and me not recalling the name isn't really the concern. 
  • I honestly have no idea who Dean Holden is

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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,788
    edited December 2022
    https://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?/topic/210911-holden-sack-or-keep/page/15/

    Well worth a read for a look into what we could be about to witness. 
    They haven’t exactly set the world alight since he left, suggesting he wasn’t the problem there. I tend to not to want to listen to a bunch of fans who were saying they want to bring in Tisdale instead!

    For what it’s worth, the comments I’ve read seem to suggest he’s highly respected as a person and isn’t the worst coach. 

    Overall, the impression I get is a steady pair of hands which is probably exactly what the club needs until we can pull the entire set-up out of it’s current mess.
  • sillav nitram
    sillav nitram Posts: 10,169
    edited December 2022
    RedChaser said:
    ‘Holden was a defender who was comfortable playing at right-back and centre-back. Over a sixteen-year playing career, he amassed 369 league appearances in representing ten clubs mainly in the lower leagues scoring 22 goals’. 
    Is he joining us as a player or manager or both?;)
  • CH4RLTON said:
    I mean reading that link, isnt this what all fans would say on the back of a bad run. For what it is worth, having spoken to a few Stoke supporting friends, he is very much a defensive minded coach and tbh that is exactly what we need in the moment. If he comes in gets few wins and clean sheets and gets us way from the drop zone whilst all the other crap sorts itself out then good
    A defensive minded coach with no strikers sounds about right to me.
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,827
    This is the only kind of manager we were likely to attract - ones that didn’t expect to
    get another job .  
  • Sandgaard recently said finding a new manager could take weeks so is this going to be another temporary appointment? 
  • SDAddick said:
    I honestly thought Dean Holden was former US international Stuart Holden. It's got so bad I literally don't know who our rumoured new manager is which is something I haven't experienced since about 2015.

    Sandgaard really is Duchatelet all over again.
    Stuart Holden does commentary for Fox over here. I wish he'd take a managerial job so I didn't have to listen to him. 

    I would say, did you know who Garner, Adkins, Michael Beale, even Nathan Jones were before they were linked to us? I'm not exactly wowed but the appointment, but he has managed twice in the Championship, and me not recalling the name isn't really the concern. 
    Yes, I knew all of these people. I'm not sure Adkins (who won back to back promotions to the PL) can be put in this bracket! I have to go back to the Riga, Luzon, Fraeye era to get to this point.
  • I honestly thought Dean Holden was former US international Stuart Holden. It's got so bad I literally don't know who our rumoured new manager is which is something I haven't experienced since about 2015.

    Sandgaard really is Duchatelet all over again.

    He's worse. Far worse. Duchatelet was a cock and slowly killing the club in the erly years but was competent (comparatively).

    This prick is driving us over a cliff whilst merrily singing Cliff Richards Summer Holiday blissfully ignorant of his own catastrophic failure and has about as much self awareness as a tin of beans.




  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,886
    RedChaser said:
    ‘Holden was a defender who was comfortable playing at right-back and centre-back. Over a sixteen-year playing career, he amassed 369 league appearances in representing ten clubs mainly in the lower leagues scoring 22 goals’. 
    Is he joining us as a player or manager or both?;)
    Certainly done the mileage and probably walk straight in at CB at the moment 😉