Realistically, what were people expecting....we were never going to attract the likes of Wilder or Jones as I'm sure they will be looking for a championship job....a league 1 appointment will either be young but inexperienced, or more experienced but with some blemishes on their CV....pretty sure you could substitute Appleton's name with any of the names that appeared in the betting and the reaction would be the same.
Oh well, there it is. Young players and academy focus
Yes. In a nutshell.
The academy is not outstanding. It’s just the best potential money earner.
Yes there it is, they were never going to spend the money needed to get promotion, they are only interested in loading the first team with kids they can sell on for a profit in the ridiculous quest for break even. I must admit feel completely duped, I thought they were going to have a go this year, another set of chancers, lets face it the only way we will be anywhere near going up this year will be if we get very lucky with the youngsters performing and May has a 20/25 goal season. That's if we don't sell players in Jan of course.
He will get my 100% support for now as like every other Charlton fan I am desperate for success but feels like the perfect hire to guide our talented but inexperienced squad to another mid table finish.
average league one manager for a club that can't have ambitions above being an average league one club. If rumours are to be believed, good football and good charlton people had a quick look at the vacancy and steered well clear. As prague said - we're asking two individuals to completely inverse their reputation for us to be a success. I'm just sad more than anything else.
Can’t stand Evens but I would sooner him as our manager.Sorry to say I Can’t wait to see Jake Forster caskey come and show what we chucked away next week.
No chance for Jake? Red card and suspended after a coming together with Rafferty against Pompey.
Appleton wouldn't have been my first choice, but if he can put a bit of backbone into our bunch of players, or at least organise them into a properly set up, tactically aware and organised team ...... then well, you know, it could turn out better than most of us could dream of.
The proof of the pudding is in the eating, blah, blah. He'll either be gone within a few months or turn the team round to rescue our season.
I think this is the most apathetic I’ve ever felt about a Charlton managerial appointment. Even with Fraeye and Luzon I was enraged or laughing my arse off at how ridiculous it was. This is just nothing
Was Holden any different?
Genuine question.
All feels very similar to me - average lower league manager who's supposed to get the best from an underfunded squad. Not exciting, but not ridiculous.
Rinse, repeat. As you say, all really nothingy.
I felt relatively hopeful with Holden. Looked like he’d had a good run with Bristol City until injuries killed their season and he’d taken some time to review and take stock. He didn’t have a huge CV and left a fair bit to assume. Appleton hasn’t really done well since 2016 and I feel like we know what we’re getting. Who knows, we thought Bowyer was a stopgap and that turned out alright
Welcome Michael. Let’s hope you can get this old beast shipshape and steaming ahead again.
Good luck. You'll need it. But still, you never know. Perhaps you'll become a club legend. Some of our greatest managers might have seemed underwhelming when first appointed (Lennie, Curbs).
I suppose he'll be cheap to get rid of when the time comes but meantime I support the club, regardless of the players, coaches, owners or manager and that doesn't change.
It's an appointment that sums up where we are as a football club. I genuinely wish him nothing but success, but his appointment just brings another shrug like Adkins, Garner and Holden did before. We're in no position to get any kind of special one manager, and at some point, it really does boil down to doing the basics correctly, building a team with spirit and not trying to reinvent the wheel.
If (and it's a HUGE if) Appleton can start to instil some focused coaching into our defence, then maybe not all hope is lost for this season. With all being equal, he has a squad that neutrals looked at before a ball was kicked and assumed could be playoff contenders - and that was before the loans were added. It's a huge, tough job, but he does at least have a significant amount of experience to draw from.
I suspect he'll have us play very similar football to what we did under Holden and I would predict that, if I had to judge a Charlton side blind under either of them, I wouldn't be able to tell the difference. If coaching is his focus, then I can only hope and pray that he learns from our frailties quickly by watching every minute of every game so far and builds a coaching regime that works to fix that. Proof is in the pudding. Maybe he gets a tune out of this squad that should, in all honestly, be capable of pushing for playoffs if they play to the top end of their capabilities.
I dunno. Not particularly whelmed either way. Just another one in.
I am a bit lost for any explanation for this decision .. so just to say, it lacks any semblance of imagination as well as ambition .. just LOOK at his record, the geezer is a serial failure .. a big W T F "!!
I am a bit lost for any explanation for this decision .. so just to say, it lacks any semblance of imagination as well as ambition .. just LOOK at his record, the geezer is a serial failure .. a big W T F "!!
Bit unfair, he has a 100% win ratio at Leicester City 😉
WhenI first saw the headline I thought it was a joke, my oh my, how far are we falling, if he's the best we can come up with god help us.
Portsmouth short stint and relegated Blackpool lasted about 10 games/2 months Blackburn see Blackpool Oxford couple of years, did get them from League two to League one and wembley Coach at Leicester & west Brom Couple of years at Lincoln, did little 6 months back at Blackpool, one win in eleven games, sacked
We've gone for a bang average (at best) League one manager, but then right now we are a bang average league one club. I literally give up, I honestly think me and a few of my apprentices at work would have more idea of how to run a football club than the Charlie's we've had the last 8 years.
I am starting to wonder if we've become so toxic as an employer we are literally fishing in the bottom of the pond as surely this isn't the best available, but must be the best of who would work here.
Well said Fenn3098 ffs give Appleton a chance he’s only just come through the door.and typically fifty percent are slating him already before a balls been kicked.Even if we had pep as manager we would still be in this position with that depleted squad.Get all the injured players back, give the bloke six matches, then give your opinion i am confident a lot of you will be changing your tune and actually getting behind our club.
That is the model since Roland and it continues development of young players and to sell them. Don’t give a fuck about the team the fans the club
No, this has been the model (bar the Premiership years) since we returned the The Valley - in truth long before that as well. We developed and sold Academy products to cover the recurring deficits in the years prior to promotion to the Prem in 1998 (Minto and Bowyer most notably). Selling young players is not the issue. It's when you sell them. If the timing is dictated simply by when you desperately need a cash injection, you'll go nowhere. If, as CM described, the plan is to hang on to them until their value's optimised for CAFC and make at least some of the cash available to strengthen the squad, that's how most EFL clubs can achieved progress and promotion. They could have sold Leaburn after the takeover was completed on 19 July if they were the penny-pinchers they're accused of being. They probably won't have a choice at the end of the season if he continues his progress as he'll probably have Premier League suitors but that's fine. It should have added to his value. Time will tell if CM is good to his word and if Appleton can deliver as head coach but as for the owners' motives, as I've said until blue in the face, investing £10m+ in CAFC makes ZERO sense for the large shareholders. Unlike all owners for the past 10+ years (who are patently not interested in the club for money laundering purposes, expansion of a European network, asset-stripping or a vanity project) to aim for anything other than at least 1 promotion. That's not to say they'll throw stupid money at the squad (they evidently won't and I'm thankful for that because it often fails and you're left in deeper shit) but it should mean they'll likely provide the working capital to enable a manager to build a promotion-capable squad over time albeit, yes, selling homegrown players along the way.
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If this picture had been shown for the last few years, half the blokes on here would've started a bromance with MA.
Not saying 50% of CL male members are gay(8% at a guess) but they are into stigmatophilia.
Get Bowyer back with his rod.
Answers on a postcard, please ........ and no, @Stig ..... no need to answer, just tongue in cheek
No chance for Jake?
Red card and suspended after a coming together with Rafferty against Pompey.
The proof of the pudding is in the eating, blah, blah. He'll either be gone within a few months or turn the team round to rescue our season.
Welcome Michael. Let’s hope you can get this old beast shipshape and steaming ahead again.
Good luck. You'll need it. But still, you never know. Perhaps you'll become a club legend. Some of our greatest managers might have seemed underwhelming when first appointed (Lennie, Curbs).
If (and it's a HUGE if) Appleton can start to instil some focused coaching into our defence, then maybe not all hope is lost for this season. With all being equal, he has a squad that neutrals looked at before a ball was kicked and assumed could be playoff contenders - and that was before the loans were added. It's a huge, tough job, but he does at least have a significant amount of experience to draw from.
I suspect he'll have us play very similar football to what we did under Holden and I would predict that, if I had to judge a Charlton side blind under either of them, I wouldn't be able to tell the difference. If coaching is his focus, then I can only hope and pray that he learns from our frailties quickly by watching every minute of every game so far and builds a coaching regime that works to fix that. Proof is in the pudding. Maybe he gets a tune out of this squad that should, in all honestly, be capable of pushing for playoffs if they play to the top end of their capabilities.
I dunno. Not particularly whelmed either way. Just another one in.
Portsmouth short stint and relegated
Blackpool lasted about 10 games/2 months
Blackburn see Blackpool
Oxford couple of years, did get them from League two to League one and wembley
Coach at Leicester & west Brom
Couple of years at Lincoln, did little
6 months back at Blackpool, one win in eleven games, sacked
We've gone for a bang average (at best) League one manager, but then right now we are a bang average league one club. I literally give up, I honestly think me and a few of my apprentices at work would have more idea of how to run a football club than the Charlie's we've had the last 8 years.
I am starting to wonder if we've become so toxic as an employer we are literally fishing in the bottom of the pond as surely this isn't the best available, but must be the best of who would work here.
We developed and sold Academy products to cover the recurring deficits in the years prior to promotion to the Prem in 1998 (Minto and Bowyer most notably).
Selling young players is not the issue. It's when you sell them.
If the timing is dictated simply by when you desperately need a cash injection, you'll go nowhere.
If, as CM described, the plan is to hang on to them until their value's optimised for CAFC and make at least some of the cash available to strengthen the squad, that's how most EFL clubs can achieved progress and promotion.
They could have sold Leaburn after the takeover was completed on 19 July if they were the penny-pinchers they're accused of being. They probably won't have a choice at the end of the season if he continues his progress as he'll probably have Premier League suitors but that's fine. It should have added to his value.
Time will tell if CM is good to his word and if Appleton can deliver as head coach but as for the owners' motives, as I've said until blue in the face, investing £10m+ in CAFC makes ZERO sense for the large shareholders. Unlike all owners for the past 10+ years (who are patently not interested in the club for money laundering purposes, expansion of a European network, asset-stripping or a vanity project) to aim for anything other than at least 1 promotion.
That's not to say they'll throw stupid money at the squad (they evidently won't and I'm thankful for that because it often fails and you're left in deeper shit) but it should mean they'll likely provide the working capital to enable a manager to build a promotion-capable squad over time albeit, yes, selling homegrown players along the way.