So if this went off sale now for Orient, they’d probably want to close Block 518 for segregation purposes and the maximum put on sale to our fans would be Blocks 519 or 520 through to 525 or 526 I am guessing?
How many tickets is that? 6,000? 7,000?
Be a shambles if they are left unsold.
Not sure we would get them all - Orient would want to be able to put some on General Sale as well I would guess. Even half would do.
If any tickets in the Orient end went on general sale, they’d be snapped up by CAFC fans as soon as our general sale lot sold. I don’t think Orient will have a general sale for that reason.
Seeing as Orients general sale window ends at 5pm on Friday, I reckon we will be given a further block by block allocation after then.
Anything before that time then whoever makes that decision is opening themselves up for criticism for ‘moving the goalposts’. Could you imagine if roles were reversed and some of our fans planned to buy on Friday only for the allocation to be reduced and they missed out.
Why would anyone put off buying a ticket ? How does that thought process work? I fancy going to this match but will wait til Friday to purchase my tickets ? I have often wondered why joint Valley Gold / ST got so long to decide if they want to go to a game which is on restricted sale. Sure, prioritise them but don't give them 4 or 5 days and make the process for non joint VG/ST ie all the other genuine fans who want to go panic about buying....
It does not make sense, if sales are slowing then the sooner we get the allocation the less stressful for everyone, particularly as the guy who alluded to the admin required... Madness. But then we are only football fans....
The biggest thing that does not make sense is fans that qualified for certain sales windows could buy for themselves plus 3 other ‘randoms’ that fancy a day out.
Our average gate last season was 15k. That means the Wembley allocation that’s been sold out basically consists of 22k ‘randoms’, some of whom will have got along to a lot of home and/or away games, but not that many.
By ‘randoms’ I meant people without a cafc purchase history. I have a purchase history from being a (lapsed) season ticket holder and was lucky enough to get a ticket when that window opened. Some people I know with similar circumstances weren’t as lucky. I just think being able to get 3 additional tickets for people without history is not fair when others with more Charlton connection miss out.
My frustration is that I have probably been to enough games over the past 2 seasons to have the loyalty points to have bought in the earlier batch, but given the ease of getting tickets previoulsy I have often bought on the gate when making a last minute decision on an evening game, or had tickets bought by who I occasionally go with and not linked the accounts. Therefore I have a lot of "missing" loyalty points because I bought without my fan ID.
If I miss out today and more tickets dont become available I will be very frustrated and may change my view, but I also feel that fans with the huge loyalty point totals and fans with season tickets who go to every home game have earned the right to bring friends/family along for the big day out. I could potentially argue that it should be 2 tickets per fan ID / season ticket etc. (as this would have allowed me to get tickets by now!) but I can see the rationale to get the tickets sold as soon as possible, hopefully filling the stadium
It's a unpopular opinion, but personally I think ST/VG holders should be able to buy 4 tickets as long as everyone has a cafc ID. Nobody should be entitled to bring randoms, just because they've spent money at the club.
Family stands should be for young kids too, not 15/16/17 year olds who are probably having a pint before the match 😆
I don't agree. Plenty of semi regular attenders who don't have an account or fan ID. My wife has never had one but has been to 35 Charlton games since we've been together. Is she not allowed a ticket. Plenty of people who buy for their less computer literate older family and friends who would then miss out.
If you were to do this you'd need to make it really clear and telegraph it 2 years in advance. So that people can set up accounts and build purchase history's for those people. There should also be a reminder with every purchase of multiple tickets to assign them to the right people or risk them not being able to attend big games.
I'm just not sure we are at the point of needing to restict sales like that (yet!).
Canters, I agree somewhat but I would like to extend it to the ability to assign tickets to members regardless of what phase the ‘buyer’ got them. CatJnr dropped his ST a couple of years ago because of shift work but still does up to 20 per year split home and away and normally gets his own tix. For high profile (this year Orient and Wrexham - and playoffs!) I book his tickets as I get priority. Why shouldn’t he get those points too? Same with his gf. She doesn’t even have an account because either him or me book her tickets but she would comfortably qualify for the 150+ point phase
If you book tickets and allocate them to someone they get the points (my lot all do but then we go reguarly and read the instructions). If you don't allocate the tickets to someone how on earth are the club to know?
I go to Wembley a fair few times a season. You can take in food which i normally do, meal deals from supermarket. Empty 500ml plastic bottles without lids, for free water refill you hide in your pocket. Job done.
I go to Wembley a fair few times a season. You can take in food which i normally do, meal deals from supermarket. Empty 500ml plastic bottles without lids, for free water refill you hide in your pocket. Job done.
Can you meet people on the concourses who are in a different block?
I go to Wembley a fair few times a season. You can take in food which i normally do, meal deals from supermarket. Empty 500ml plastic bottles without lids, for free water refill you hide in your pocket. Job done.
I go to Wembley a fair few times a season. You can take in food which i normally do, meal deals from supermarket. Empty 500ml plastic bottles without lids, for free water refill you hide in your pocket. Job done.
Can you meet people on the concourses who are in a different block?
Not entirely sure if you can walk the entire half of our allocation? Never tried but you can certainly walk big swathes of it.
I go to Wembley a fair few times a season. You can take in food which i normally do, meal deals from supermarket. Empty 500ml plastic bottles without lids, for free water refill you hide in your pocket. Job done.
I go to Wembley a fair few times a season. You can take in food which i normally do, meal deals from supermarket. Empty 500ml plastic bottles without lids, for free water refill you hide in your pocket. Job done.
Can you meet people on the concourses who are in a different block?
Not entirely sure if you can walk the entire half of our allocation? Never tried but you can certainly walk big swathes of it.
Yeah, you can
In 2019, I spent the entirety of half time walking around the level 1 concourse from the half way line under the royal box, passed the screen end to family that were around.d opposite bend... then back again. It was lively.
Seeing as Orients general sale window ends at 5pm on Friday, I reckon we will be given a further block by block allocation after then.
Anything before that time then whoever makes that decision is opening themselves up for criticism for ‘moving the goalposts’. Could you imagine if roles were reversed and some of our fans planned to buy on Friday only for the allocation to be reduced and they missed out.
Why would anyone put off buying a ticket ? How does that thought process work? I fancy going to this match but will wait til Friday to purchase my tickets ? I have often wondered why joint Valley Gold / ST got so long to decide if they want to go to a game which is on restricted sale. Sure, prioritise them but don't give them 4 or 5 days and make the process for non joint VG/ST ie all the other genuine fans who want to go panic about buying....
It does not make sense, if sales are slowing then the sooner we get the allocation the less stressful for everyone, particularly as the guy who alluded to the admin required... Madness. But then we are only football fans....
The biggest thing that does not make sense is fans that qualified for certain sales windows could buy for themselves plus 3 other ‘randoms’ that fancy a day out.
Our average gate last season was 15k. That means the Wembley allocation that’s been sold out basically consists of 22k ‘randoms’, some of whom will have got along to a lot of home and/or away games, but not that many.
By ‘randoms’ I meant people without a cafc purchase history. I have a purchase history from being a (lapsed) season ticket holder and was lucky enough to get a ticket when that window opened. Some people I know with similar circumstances weren’t as lucky. I just think being able to get 3 additional tickets for people without history is not fair when others with more Charlton connection miss out.
My frustration is that I have probably been to enough games over the past 2 seasons to have the loyalty points to have bought in the earlier batch, but given the ease of getting tickets previoulsy I have often bought on the gate when making a last minute decision on an evening game, or had tickets bought by who I occasionally go with and not linked the accounts. Therefore I have a lot of "missing" loyalty points because I bought without my fan ID.
If I miss out today and more tickets dont become available I will be very frustrated and may change my view, but I also feel that fans with the huge loyalty point totals and fans with season tickets who go to every home game have earned the right to bring friends/family along for the big day out. I could potentially argue that it should be 2 tickets per fan ID / season ticket etc. (as this would have allowed me to get tickets by now!) but I can see the rationale to get the tickets sold as soon as possible, hopefully filling the stadium
It's a unpopular opinion, but personally I think ST/VG holders should be able to buy 4 tickets as long as everyone has a cafc ID. Nobody should be entitled to bring randoms, just because they've spent money at the club.
Family stands should be for young kids too, not 15/16/17 year olds who are probably having a pint before the match 😆
I don't agree. Plenty of semi regular attenders who don't have an account or fan ID. My wife has never had one but has been to 35 Charlton games since we've been together. Is she not allowed a ticket. Plenty of people who buy for their less computer literate older family and friends who would then miss out.
If you were to do this you'd need to make it really clear and telegraph it 2 years in advance. So that people can set up accounts and build purchase history's for those people. There should also be a reminder with every purchase of multiple tickets to assign them to the right people or risk them not being able to attend big games.
I'm just not sure we are at the point of needing to restict sales like that (yet!).
Canters, I agree somewhat but I would like to extend it to the ability to assign tickets to members regardless of what phase the ‘buyer’ got them. CatJnr dropped his ST a couple of years ago because of shift work but still does up to 20 per year split home and away and normally gets his own tix. For high profile (this year Orient and Wrexham - and playoffs!) I book his tickets as I get priority. Why shouldn’t he get those points too? Same with his gf. She doesn’t even have an account because either him or me book her tickets but she would comfortably qualify for the 150+ point phase
If you book tickets and allocate them to someone they get the points (my lot all do but then we go reguarly and read the instructions). If you don't allocate the tickets to someone how on earth are the club to know?
I can only manage to allocate if the recipients qualify for the phase I buy them in; and it's simple and quick - can you point to me to the instructions on how I can allocate if I buy in a phase they don't qualify for?
Awful management from Wembley with literally thousands of unsold seats with less than 48 hours to go, when the demand is, and always has been, there.
Really poor from Charlton as well, lack of comms is helping no one. Its not in theor hands but even another 'we're continuing to do all we can to request additional tickets' message keeps up the pressure on the powers that be.
Surely the club can only communicate if there is something to communicate?
Or are people suggesting the club should issue a daily update that there is no update?
Given the fact its now Friday afternoon and the game is Sunday, it's more about comms from the club putting pressure on Wembley/EFL, even if there is no update
seems nuts if we don't get a load more tomorrow, particularly as they are print at home - not everybody has access to a printer on a saturday or sunday
Surely you can just scan them from your phone at the turnstiles.
no idea - blame my sister in law, she said we had to print them out which is in hand
Surely the club can only communicate if there is something to communicate?
Or are people suggesting the club should issue a daily update that there is no update?
Given the fact its now Friday afternoon and the game is Sunday, it's more about comms from the club putting pressure on Wembley/EFL, even if there is no update
Nothing to lose from the club by putting public pressure on Wembley.
Surely the club can only communicate if there is something to communicate?
Or are people suggesting the club should issue a daily update that there is no update?
Given the fact its now Friday afternoon and the game is Sunday, it's more about comms from the club putting pressure on Wembley/EFL, even if there is no update
Nothing to lose from the club by putting public pressure on Wembley.
I am fairly certain the club are putting as much pressure as they can on Wembley to try to get more tickets.
Given the exceptionally high demand, the club are continuing to request more tickets for the game and will issue a further communication to fans should this request be facilitated.
If you want to put pressure on the clowns at the EFL and Wembley to release more tickets, the best way is to go on Twitter and retweet this one from the Charlton Life Twitter account which has 7k followers. You could add a tag to Matt Slater at The Athletic (@mjshrimper) who is a Southend fan and has followed our recent dark days. Or Henry Winter (@henrywinter)
This sort of thing does work, but it needs people to retweet. Doesn't take long.
I doubt there's anyone who cares whether we get more tickets or not as things stands as no one person seems to be accountable. Is it the EFL, Wembley, the stadium operator, the police, someone else? So although demand is still there, and we know that, anyone else in the chain will just say sorry, the event was sold out.
Had we been given 5-10,000 extra seats 2 days ago I am certain we would have sold them all.
It is so late now some of the day trippers will have made other plans and people who wanted 2,3,4 tickets will have accepted one on a resale and not bring their mates/partners so I am not so sure.
Either way, I hope we get them so that those still looking manage to come along.
Given the exceptionally high demand, the club are continuing to request more tickets for the game and will issue a further communication to fans should this request be facilitated.
The Club are not likely to publicise the details of ongoing discussions with Wembley, EFL, Orient and/or the Police unless and until there is an outcome - whether that be extra tickets or no extra tickets.
It’s inconceivable we wouldn’t have said more in the past even before social media. You can argue the rights and wrongs but we 100% would have explained the issues.
Surely the club can only communicate if there is something to communicate?
Or are people suggesting the club should issue a daily update that there is no update?
The club could and should say that they are communicating with Wembley and pressing for more blocks originally designated to Orient to be put on sale for Charlton fans. At least we’d know Charlton are trying to help.
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If you don't allocate the tickets to someone how on earth are the club to know?
In 2019, I spent the entirety of half time walking around the level 1 concourse from the half way line under the royal box, passed the screen end to family that were around.d opposite bend... then back again. It was lively.
Really poor from Charlton as well, lack of comms is helping no one. Its not in theor hands but even another 'we're continuing to do all we can to request additional tickets' message keeps up the pressure on the powers that be.
Or are people suggesting the club should issue a daily update that there is no update?
Given the exceptionally high demand, the club are continuing to request more tickets for the game and will issue a further communication to fans should this request be facilitated.
It is so late now some of the day trippers will have made other plans and people who wanted 2,3,4 tickets will have accepted one on a resale and not bring their mates/partners so I am not so sure.
Either way, I hope we get them so that those still looking manage to come along.
The Club are not likely to publicise the details of ongoing discussions with Wembley, EFL, Orient and/or the Police unless and until there is an outcome - whether that be extra tickets or no extra tickets.
Crazy when there is plenty of demand and plenty of seats left unsold.
Am so sorry for anybody who is sweating on tickets. Hope we get more v soon.