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  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,057
    That was him in every phase. Excellent in summer, then fades, then has another purple patch around february. But even when he doesn't he can still be a factor.
    Sums it up I think.
  • ColinTat
    ColinTat Posts: 2,794
    Was year after year, when he got in the team consistently, our number one assist player. If you couldn't see how he improved in his crossing and general team play..... His improvement at protecting his full back was nothing short of phenomenal. Something supposed better players such as Ambrose, ZZ, Scott Sinclair, Racon and Semedo never showed. Can't see how you didn't rate his game intelligence, when he wasn't seemingly struggling for fitness, it was excellent. Now if you talk about him Tottenham away. Oh my days, but the improvement year on year was impressive.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,950
    no thanks. What would be next? Marcus Bent?
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,117
    edited March 2012
    I don't get how someone can be overrated if only a few seemingly rates them?
  • who on here had the bet whether he'd score 10 goals or something?

    some even rated him better than ambrose.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,726
    I don't get how someone can be overrated if only a few seemingly rates them?
    Exactly. I also don't get why Sam and Wagstaff get/got so much more criticism than Green, they're all different players yet there's not much between them.
  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,182
    He's a good player until December comes and he's too tired to play. His performance at Tranmere was something special. Good back up.
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,569
    Thought he was hugely overrated. Had an awkward style about him which would lead to commentators calling him a 'skilful and tricky' winger, but all we really saw was him running around on the spot in circles of the ball.

    Plus he is one the laziest players I've seen at Charlton.

    Jackson/Wagstaff/Kyel Reid/Haynes/Danny Green > Lloyd Sam
    Not sure if I'm seeing things, maybe I'm missunderstanding what you've written?
    What is the link between Jackson and Lloyd Sam...........or indeed Jackson and any of the players you've mentioned in that list?
    Are you saying Jackson is lazy??

  • Deadred
    Deadred Posts: 1,514
    edited March 2012
    My interpetation SounadAsa£ is that they are all greater (better as a wide man) than Sam which is also my opinion (although Reid disappointed towards the end of his tenure) but best it comes from the horse's mouth I suppose.
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,569
    edited March 2012
    My interpetation SounadAsa£ is that they are all greater (better as a wide man) than Sam which is also my opinion but best it comes from the horses mouth I suppose.
    Ah right oh...maybe that's what Tom means...can't believe he's calling Jacko...(or Waggy come to that) lazy....it's a bit unclear though.


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  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,397
    Yes, I was stating that they were/are better players than Lloyd Sam. The others I mentioned are anything but lazy, especially Jackson and Wagstaff.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,373
    edited March 2012
    for example on away followings oohaahs knowledge is > yours

    or effsborg away attendance is > oohaahs> the average charlton fan< the average football fan
  • ColinTat
    ColinTat Posts: 2,794
    edited March 2012
    He's saying all those players are greater than Sam. Which some are, whilst others such as Reid and Haynes are clearly not for Charlton. Unless of course you include Haynes who almost destroyed us at home when he played for Ipswich. But a few good matches for Reid, and many below average, don't make him better than Sam. Reid on form would struggle to get into a champ team, Sam did and more than that held his own in summer.

    I don't know why I'm bothering really, but compared to Ambrose who we all know was played in the wrong position, Sam improved and adapted his game and became a factor. When in our worst team I've ever seen, Ambrose did fuck all for a season and a half and disappeared time after time, Sam made himself one of our out balls and never hid whilst being our only hope of assisting for a goal. Still I suppose most of our fans like players to be pretty and do fuck all like ZZ, Racon and Ambrose.

    Is Sam a top draw player? No. Would I have been happy for him to still be in the squad? Yes. Would I want us to sign him? No, summer and spring is not enough even if he makes it fit to summer! And yes without injury he is superior to Jamal Campbell Ryce: I've seen him in the flesh a few times, couldn't believe it when he had his one purple patch season in the champ. Possibly I missed something there, but I believe a fit Sam would be more of a factor year on year than Jamal who looks like an average league one player to me: even if his top form is 1/2 a season, he still works for the team.
  • masicat
    masicat Posts: 5,017
    Neil Warnock proves yet again what an astute manager he is. Has taken him just a couple of weeks to get rid of Lloyd. A player who will forever remind me of the bad times. Fancy boots, pulling out of tackles. Could have always skipped a shower because he didn't get dirty or sweaty. Hopeless waster.
  • daveaddick
    daveaddick Posts: 1,926
    I think Lloyd sam was one of the underachievers we have had at the club he always promised more than he delivered so not for me would prefer to get a player with a bit more fire in the belly
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,493
    Could be a good move for Lloyd the talent waster. Curle could well the the manager he needs, one who encourages him with a regular kick in the derriere. Notts County is making a bold bid for the playoffs. I wonder if they'll pass Forest on the way up.
  • BlackForestReds
    BlackForestReds Posts: 17,952
    A good deal for both Notts County and Lloyd Sam, the move to Leeds didn't work out and he has something to prove. Interesting to see how he fares against the Sheffield clubs - big rivals of Leeds.
  • nolly
    nolly Posts: 12,122
    Notts county riding high bang on form sam comes in there prob start plummeting
  • CafcSteve
    CafcSteve Posts: 788
    Scored on his debut after being subbed on in the 2nd half.

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  • operationpig
    operationpig Posts: 2,247
    Wasn't enough though was it? lol
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 64,375
    Pipe down.
  • JT
    JT Posts: 12,348

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    Knew I'd score after sheff wed fans were singing "we all hate leeds ****" nice feeling!!
  • nolly
    nolly Posts: 12,122
    thinking of himself when his new team lose a vital match
  • JT
    JT Posts: 12,348
    just hit him and went in apparantely
  • nolly
    nolly Posts: 12,122
    notts county will struggle now sam has graced their club