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Valley winger told to make most of chance

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  • razil
    razil Posts: 15,041
    wagstaff has shown in the past he is a decent impact sub
  • Rizzo
    Rizzo Posts: 6,457
    Any news on Green?
  • News Shopper
    News Shopper Posts: 1,841
    Green ok and training
  • Rizzo
    Rizzo Posts: 6,457
    So do we think that scoring one, making one and not getting booked will be enough for Waggy to stay in the team?
  • I hope waggy starts, surely did enough with his link up play to get another go.
  • arthur
    arthur Posts: 245
    I hope he can get a run in the team. We need to utilise our squad a bit better at times, keep players on their toes!
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,370
    While he can be annoying, he deserves a chance in the team, it's not as if Green has been so overwhelmingly good as to be an automatic pick in the side.

    He's not as good a crosser, and we would lose a corner taker, but he probably poses more of a goal threat
  • Deadred
    Deadred Posts: 1,514
    While he can be annoying, he deserves a chance in the team, it's not as if Green has been so overwhelmingly good as to be an automatic pick in the side.

    He's not as good a crosser, and we would lose a corner taker, but he probably poses more of a goal threat
    Also offers a bit more defensively and covers more ground.
  • KBslittlesis
    KBslittlesis Posts: 8,737
    And more importantly for me, keeps Green on his toes if he thinks Waggy is in the running.
  • Rizzo
    Rizzo Posts: 6,457
    I also think that he has worked on his crosses. He put a couple of decent ones in on Saturday.

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  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,051
    Has to be worth giving him a go, divides opinions a bit but for my money he and Green are hardly classes apart either direction. Different styles admittedly but maybe that kind of thing will refresh a slightly weary-looking team...
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,987
    Green ok and training
    Is that Paul Green?

  • News Shopper
    News Shopper Posts: 1,841
    Green ok and training
    Is that Paul Green?

    Both

  • cafc4ever
    cafc4ever Posts: 570
    He's better than Green !
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,394
    He's not better than Green, nowhere near. Danny Green has some brilliant games and some very, very average ones but there's no doubting that he has an abundance more natural ability than Wagstaff.

    Waggy is a great player to bring on when defending a lead or you just need someone to unsettle the oppositions possession. I've never been too convinced when he has started games though. His first touch isn't great as he seems to get the ball caught in his feet a lot.

    His crossing is a strange one. More often than not it is a bit weak but then he will produce an absolute gem out of nowhere.
  • TEL
    TEL Posts: 10,100
    Time to show some character after the last two results. I hope Waggy fulfills his potential, very nice lad.....
  • Waggy is still young and inexperienced. It's normal for younsters to blow hot and cold, more so wingers. Of the two, I would imagine that Green has had the more experience. For me, Waggy has it all in his locker and could develop into a great player. He just needs to start putting it all together more consistently. For wingers, sometimes things just click into place quite suddenly as they did for Flanagan and Robinson, for others it never does and we've seen a few of them on the wing at the the Valley in recent seasons.
  • I'd rather Waggy at Right mid than Haynes.

    Haynes for me is a striker or part of a frontline 4-3-3
  • Essex_Al
    Essex_Al Posts: 3,590
    He's not better than Green, nowhere near. Danny Green has some brilliant games and some very, very average ones but there's no doubting that he has an abundance more natural ability than Wagstaff.

    Waggy is a great player to bring on when defending a lead or you just need someone to unsettle the oppositions possession. I've never been too convinced when he has started games though. His first touch isn't great as he seems to get the ball caught in his feet a lot.

    His crossing is a strange one. More often than not it is a bit weak but then he will produce an absolute gem out of nowhere.

    At last, someone that talks sense!
  • Southendaddick
    Southendaddick Posts: 5,349
    Waggy did more in 80 minutes than the Beckham wannabe has done in 6 months

    1 decent cross a game is clearly good enough for some...

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  • SE10Addick
    SE10Addick Posts: 2,972
    I'd be interested to hear who Solly prefers to play with.

    Waggy is a good lad, works hard and deserves a bit of slack. Personally, I feel that Green leaves us too exposed at times and tries stuff above his ability.
  • Waggy did more in 80 minutes than the Beckham wannabe has done in 6 months

    1 decent cross a game is clearly good enough for some...
    I'm not anti Waggy but I'm certain Green has possibly done slightly more than than that.

  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,356
    we've let in more goals per game with waggy in the team than danny green but that could be just as crap as we always win if andy hughes plays in the middle bollox
  • Rizzo
    Rizzo Posts: 6,457
    we've let in more goals per game with waggy in the team than danny green but that could be just as crap as we always win if andy hughes plays in the middle bollox
    I'm very surprised if that is the case, although if it includes the Notts County game then that will obviously distort the figures.

  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,670
    edited March 2012
    we've let in more goals per game with waggy in the team than danny green but that could be just as crap as we always win if andy hughes plays in the middle bollox
    Saw the other day our points per game is apparently higher with Waggy starting than Green.

    I'm sure we can find stats to support both. What is clear though is there's no much between them.

    Green's obviously more technical but Wagstaff gets in positions and scores the type of goals that Green doesn't. His header on Saturday a great example of that.
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,394
    I would still expect Green to score move over the space of a season than Wagstaff though. He might not get into the same positions but he does have a shot on him from distance. A lot of people forget that many of the goals he scored for Dagenham were dierct from free kicks. We've fortunately got two other very good free kick takers in the side.

    I think some of the stick Green is getting is a little unfair.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,356
    we've let in more goals per game with waggy in the team than danny green but that could be just as crap as we always win if andy hughes plays in the middle bollox
    I'm very surprised if that is the case, although if it includes the Notts County game then that will obviously distort the figures.

    i worked it out before notts county game cos i was bored of the cliche that waggy helps solly out defensively
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,714
    I would still expect Green to score move over the space of a season than Wagstaff though. He might not get into the same positions but he does have a shot on him from distance. A lot of people forget that many of the goals he scored for Dagenham were dierct from free kicks. We've fortunately got two other very good free kick takers in the side.

    I think some of the stick Green is getting is a little unfair.
    I think some of the unfair stick Green is getting is because of the unfair stick some of his fans have given Waggy.

    They both have their good and not so good points and I'd always have one on the bench to keep the other who starts on his game. As of today (or tomorrow) Waggy has earned the right to start in my opinion but SCP makes the decisions.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,356
    we've let in more goals per game with waggy in the team than danny green but that could be just as crap as we always win if andy hughes plays in the middle bollox
    Saw the other day our points per game is apparently higher with Waggy starting than Green.

    waggy has started 12 yielding 27 pts average 2.25
    green has started 24 yielding 54 pts average 2.25
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,356
    and waggy has to start as said above he's earnt the right