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  • Huskaris
    Huskaris Posts: 9,897

    I remember once being told in Sainsbury's that I could not buy alcohol (despite being 20 at the time) because they had a think 25 policy... Cue getting the manager over.... Haha.
    I think they still have a similar policy at the mini Tesco's at Sidcup station. It doesn't affect me personally but it does bug me cos I can't get my head round why shops are even allowed to set their own service age limit. The law of the land stipulates 18 years of age and that should be it full stop.
    If they get a slapped wrist for selling booze to underage customers then they should tighten their checking procedures, not simply up the age limit to create their own little `buffer zone'.

    Anyway, a bit off topic there....but I fully sympathise with the OP, infuriating position especially with a queue forming behind you...AARRGGHH!!

    I was in the right and the manager said so, it was just that the checkout person had clearly been mistrained. I am guessing that a similar thing happened in the OPs case.. Where someone misunderstood what they were being told and as a result made a wrong decision.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,792
    Season tickets are transferable; U18s can use adult tickets.

    We will investigate and deal with this.
  • randy andy
    randy andy Posts: 5,463
    I haven't worked on the turnstiles for 15 years or more, but I'm sure we were never told to bother worrying about people with more expensive tickets. There were 3 priorities:

    1)The ticket was for the right stand (embarrassing for the operator if it was wrong, and usually meant a steward being taken off their normal duty to walk the person around to the correct stand.
    2)That adults weren't using discounted tickets they shouldn't be using.
    3)That the number of tickets you collected matched the turnstile counter. (so the club new that you hadn't been letting in freebies and that their attendance counts were accurate for safety reasons, etc.)

    With that to concentrate on the club wouldn't want you worrying about anything else really, just get those 3 right and get people in a quick as possible, in the last 30 mins before kick-off the queues really start to build so speed and accuracy are all the matter, if somebody want to overpay then that really is down to them I would suggest.

    I'm guessing this incident happened when it wasn't too busy at the turnstiles?
  • Chirpy Red
    Chirpy Red Posts: 7,587
    Why waste time on petty things like this when loads of people flout the smoking ban every week? That is the law of the land too.
  • tangoflash
    tangoflash Posts: 10,799
    Why waste time on petty things like this when loads of people flout the smoking ban every week? That is the law of the land too.
    Chill out & have a reefer..........................
  • I haven't worked on the turnstiles for 15 years or more, but I'm sure we were never told to bother worrying about people with more expensive tickets. There were 3 priorities:

    1)The ticket was for the right stand (embarrassing for the operator if it was wrong, and usually meant a steward being taken off their normal duty to walk the person around to the correct stand.
    2)That adults weren't using discounted tickets they shouldn't be using.
    3)That the number of tickets you collected matched the turnstile counter. (so the club new that you hadn't been letting in freebies and that their attendance counts were accurate for safety reasons, etc.)

    With that to concentrate on the club wouldn't want you worrying about anything else really, just get those 3 right and get people in a quick as possible, in the last 30 mins before kick-off the queues really start to build so speed and accuracy are all the matter, if somebody want to overpay then that really is down to them I would suggest.

    I'm guessing this incident happened when it wasn't too busy at the turnstiles?
    Well done Randy andy..... a bit of common sense, goes a long way. Especially with young supporters we should be doing all we can do encourage people to attend. From my dealings with the club I cannot see this as policy, but as Airman has already posted, being investigated, someone a little too keen......
  • Dansk_Red
    Dansk_Red Posts: 5,743
    Thanks Airman
  • Chirpy Red
    Chirpy Red Posts: 7,587
    Investigated!

    It's hardly Watergate is it?
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    Theyve always been really friendly towards me.

    Are you sure your daughter wasn't giving them some grief? She hadn't been hitting the booze before the game had she?
  • Woodsywood
    Woodsywood Posts: 991
    It is silly, the club should do something about it.

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  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,977
    Why waste time on petty things like this when loads of people flout the smoking ban every week? That is the law of the land too.
    People were smoking openly in the concourse in the upper north at half time on Saturday right next to the brain dead orange jacket stewards. It's a law that the club obviously does not take too seriously.
  • Woodsywood
    Woodsywood Posts: 991
    Why waste time on petty things like this when loads of people flout the smoking ban every week? That is the law of the land too.
    People were smoking openly in the concourse in the upper north at half time on Saturday right next to the brain dead orange jacket stewards. It's a law that the club obviously does not take too seriously.
    WTF? Really the club should investigate this as well!
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    edited April 2012
    Why oh why oh why oh why oh why oh why oh why oh why oh why oh why oh why
  • paulsturgess
    paulsturgess Posts: 3,978
    Sounded believable though didn't it? In a sort of PC gone mad type of way......


    Seriously though that was the case in the Prem days and I think it is a FA Prem rule.
    Not really no. Don't believe that is Prem rule. There's no way clubs can resell already sold season ticket holders seats just cos that person can't attend, and certainly not demand that.

    Millwall can.
    ha
  • Woodsywood
    Woodsywood Posts: 991
    Sounded believable though didn't it? In a sort of PC gone mad type of way......


    Seriously though that was the case in the Prem days and I think it is a FA Prem rule.
    Not really no. Don't believe that is Prem rule. There's no way clubs can resell already sold season ticket holders seats just cos that person can't attend, and certainly not demand that.

    Millwall can.
    ha
    Certain prem clubs allow season ticket holders to return their seat for certain games if they can't make it and they sell it on, I,e - LFC, AFC and so on

  • Dansk_Red
    Dansk_Red Posts: 5,743
    Charlton used to have a scheme that if you informed the club that you would not be using your ST for a particler match, they resold it and gave the ST holder vouchers to spend in the shop.
  • DPFC
    DPFC Posts: 320
    For many seasons when he could'nt make it I've used my sons ticket to take my grandson

    I checked with the ticket office the first time and they said it was fine as long as we did not use a childs ticket to gain access for and adult without upgrading for the day.

    obviously the turnstill operator did not know what they were doing and is normally employed in one of the food / drink outlets because they dont know what they are doing there either
  • NathanPrior
    NathanPrior Posts: 3,577
    Jobsworth of the year! Over the top reaction.

    However, ST's are non-transferable and if the holder is not going to use it they are obliged to inform the club so the empty seat can be put up for sale.

    Bit like Refs having to abide by the letter of the law or they get docked points by the assessor in the stands. Maybe there is a Turnstile assessor?

    Have you used your hosepipe recently?
    Have a look in the rules in the ST booklet, it says you can transfer them between fans in the same age bracket and such
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 29,023
    Blimey, Chirpy's getting done by Prior now. Not his finest work, this thread.
  • Deadred
    Deadred Posts: 1,514
    Blimey, Chirpy's getting done by Prior now. Not his finest work, this thread.
    Sorry to steal Nathan's thunder but Huskaris spotted it at 12.19

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  • NathanPrior
    NathanPrior Posts: 3,577
    Blimey, Chirpy's getting done by Prior now. Not his finest work, this thread.
    Sorry to steal Nathan's thunder but Huskaris spotted it at 12.19
    I was out then ;-)

  • Deadred
    Deadred Posts: 1,514
    I wish I had been, got square eyes now!
  • Huskaris
    Huskaris Posts: 9,897
    Blimey, Chirpy's getting done by Prior now. Not his finest work, this thread.
    Sorry to steal Nathan's thunder but Huskaris spotted it at 12.19
    Thank you sir. I nearly had to mention that I had seen it but I thought it might sound self serving.
  • Chirpy Red
    Chirpy Red Posts: 7,587
    Blimey, Chirpy's getting done by Prior now. Not his finest work, this thread.
    Oh read all the thread young man! Not just your own edited highlights.

    No one does The Chirps!
  • Deadred
    Deadred Posts: 1,514
    edited April 2012
    You finished those 500 lines yet Chirps ?
  • nolly
    nolly Posts: 12,122
    in this thread Prior went from a boy to a man.
  • Chirpy Red
    Chirpy Red Posts: 7,587
    You finished those 500 lines yet Chirps ?
    You got my joke yet thicko?
  • Deadred
    Deadred Posts: 1,514
    edited April 2012
    Absolutely but you obviously didn't get mine, no need to get personal though.
  • Chirpy Red
    Chirpy Red Posts: 7,587
    Go to bed.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 29,023
    in this thread Prior went from a boy to a man.
    He wasn't the first to point out Chirps failings on this thread, but he's putting the boot in good and proper!