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  • Plaaayer
    Plaaayer Posts: 9,001
    Wagstaff as full back. Llera as striker. What next??
    Alonso as a midfielder?
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,033
    Heard from a really good source that were going for Steve Davies of derby. Its us or Ipswich but his mother in law is from charlton.
    My mother in law is from Orpington - but there's probably little chance the club are looking to sign me.
    According to various press reports he wants to move for 'genuine family reasons ' , as he is from Liverpool our only chance of signing him would be if his wife's family is southern based .The link with Ipswich has been reported widely.

  • 000__Jaaaaay__000
    000__Jaaaaay__000 Posts: 2,342
    Well according to all the middlesbrough fans. They are making out that Justin hoyte is probably the worst right back in the world.. Despite playing for arsenal
  • kafka
    kafka Posts: 2,370
    Heard from a really good source that were going for Steve Davies of derby. Its us or Ipswich but his mother in law is from charlton.
    If was me; I would pick Ipswich!

  • MattD
    MattD Posts: 1,530
    Wagstaff can track back, but when face on with someone running at him he is easy to go past
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,958
    edited June 2012
    Heard from a really good source that were going for Steve Davies of derby. Its us or Ipswich but his mother in law is from charlton.
    My mother in law is from Orpington - but there's probably little chance the club are looking to sign me.
    According to various press reports he wants to move for 'genuine family reasons ' , as he is from Liverpool our only chance of signing him would be if his wife's family is southern based .The link with Ipswich has been reported widely.

    Is he right in the head?

    Most people would say that they'd want to move as far away from their mother in law as possible.

    Well, according to Les Dawson.

    :o)

  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,033
    Heard from a really good source that were going for Steve Davies of derby. Its us or Ipswich but his mother in law is from charlton.
    My mother in law is from Orpington - but there's probably little chance the club are looking to sign me.
    According to various press reports he wants to move for 'genuine family reasons ' , as he is from Liverpool our only chance of signing him would be if his wife's family is southern based .The link with Ipswich has been reported widely.

    Is he right in the head?

    Most people would say that they'd want to move as far away from their mother in law as possible.

    Well, according to Les Dawson.

    :o)


    LOL

  • Vinnie V.
    Vinnie V. Posts: 1,509
    Heard from a really good source that were going for Steve Davies of derby. Its us or Ipswich but his mother in law is from charlton.

    Surely that means he's Ipswich bound. ;)

  • bingaddick
    bingaddick Posts: 8,184
    Heard from a really good source that were going for Steve Davies of derby. Its us or Ipswich but his mother in law is from charlton.
    My mother in law is from Orpington - but there's probably little chance the club are looking to sign me.
    Are both your mothers in law from Orpington? :-)
  • Splodge
    Splodge Posts: 514
    If Green had been a free transfer he wouldn't be a flop, but from what I gather we paid a fair bit for him, at least £200k, someone may correct me and say whether it was more or less than that.

    Green is still highly rated, so it would be clever of Powell to sell him now, and get a decent fee, having seen that he probably wouldn't be good enough in the Championship.

    But, hey, I hope I'm proved wrong and he is better next season than he was in League One.
    Did you see Green play last season?
    Yes. He was pretty average. Poor corners, no left foot, wasteful shooting, no pace, can't beat his man and rarely put a good cross in. But as I say, that's based on seeing just over half our games. Perhaps the other 45% of matches would have made me feel differently. Perhaps Chris Powell feels the same as me, given that he got dropped for Wagstaff and N'Guessan and finished the season as 3rd choice right winger.

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  • Splodge
    Splodge Posts: 514
    Well according to all the middlesbrough fans. They are making out that Justin hoyte is probably the worst right back in the world.. Despite playing for arsenal
    Hoyte's pretty poor. I can't see us going for him, unless we wanted to sell Solly or Wiggins. And he's worse at left back than he is right back.
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,118
    If Green had been a free transfer he wouldn't be a flop, but from what I gather we paid a fair bit for him, at least £200k, someone may correct me and say whether it was more or less than that.

    Green is still highly rated, so it would be clever of Powell to sell him now, and get a decent fee, having seen that he probably wouldn't be good enough in the Championship.

    But, hey, I hope I'm proved wrong and he is better next season than he was in League One.
    Did you see Green play last season?
    Yes. He was pretty average. Poor corners, no left foot, wasteful shooting, no pace, can't beat his man and rarely put a good cross in. But as I say, that's based on seeing just over half our games. Perhaps the other 45% of matches would have made me feel differently. Perhaps Chris Powell feels the same as me, given that he got dropped for Wagstaff and N'Guessan and finished the season as 3rd choice right winger.
    I thought he was ill at the end of the season, rather than dropped?
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,683
    edited June 2012
    Heard from a really good source that were going for Steve Davies of derby. Its us or Ipswich but his mother in law is from charlton.
    I've asked my contact at Pride Park, if there was any truth in the rumour.
    His answer was "Hope so".

    Asked him if he was trying to get him off their books.

    His answer was:
    No, good player who just needs a fresh challenge.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,987
    I wasn't that impressed by Green last season either. I still lose sleep over the game where he shirked that tackle (stevenage at home?)
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,632
    Not that many better full backs than SCP so if he wants Hoyte then that's good enough for me.
  • mart77
    mart77 Posts: 5,658
    In fairness, boro want to keep Hoyte, so he can't be that bad.
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    If Green had been a free transfer he wouldn't be a flop, but from what I gather we paid a fair bit for him, at least £200k, someone may correct me and say whether it was more or less than that.

    Green is still highly rated, so it would be clever of Powell to sell him now, and get a decent fee, having seen that he probably wouldn't be good enough in the Championship.

    But, hey, I hope I'm proved wrong and he is better next season than he was in League One.
    Did you see Green play last season?
    Yes. He was pretty average. Poor corners, no left foot, wasteful shooting, no pace, can't beat his man and rarely put a good cross in. But as I say, that's based on seeing just over half our games. Perhaps the other 45% of matches would have made me feel differently. Perhaps Chris Powell feels the same as me, given that he got dropped for Wagstaff and N'Guessan and finished the season as 3rd choice right winger.
    Green appears to be this years Simon Francis. Because he is keeping a Charlton Boy out of the team (Waggy) he is disliked however Francis and Green could/can deliver a cross that nobody else could or can.

    Green has a thunderous shot, very often gets his strike on target, has more pace than people give credit for, has a trick (unlike Waggy). If we can get the best out of him we could have a truly superb player.

    Waggy on the other hand - well I can't see that he is much more than an athlete with an eye for goal.

  • bristoladdick
    bristoladdick Posts: 1,148
    If Green had been a free transfer he wouldn't be a flop, but from what I gather we paid a fair bit for him, at least £200k, someone may correct me and say whether it was more or less than that.

    Green is still highly rated, so it would be clever of Powell to sell him now, and get a decent fee, having seen that he probably wouldn't be good enough in the Championship.

    But, hey, I hope I'm proved wrong and he is better next season than he was in League One.
    Did you see Green play last season?
    Yes. He was pretty average. Poor corners, no left foot, wasteful shooting, no pace, can't beat his man and rarely put a good cross in. But as I say, that's based on seeing just over half our games. Perhaps the other 45% of matches would have made me feel differently. Perhaps Chris Powell feels the same as me, given that he got dropped for Wagstaff and N'Guessan and finished the season as 3rd choice right winger.
    Green appears to be this years Simon Francis. Because he is keeping a Charlton Boy out of the team (Waggy) he is disliked however Francis and Green could/can deliver a cross that nobody else could or can.

    Green has a thunderous shot, very often gets his strike on target, has more pace than people give credit for, has a trick (unlike Waggy). If we can get the best out of him we could have a truly superb player.

    Waggy on the other hand - well I can't see that he is much more than an athlete with an eye for goal.

    Apart from leading in terms of assists, Green also gained us 4 points in the West Country, with the winning goals against Exeter and Yeovil.
  • Greenie
    Greenie Posts: 9,172


    Green appears to be this years Simon Francis. Because he is keeping a Charlton Boy out of the team (Waggy) he is disliked however Francis and Green could/can deliver a cross that nobody else could or can.





    Dont agree, Francis was not disliked because he was keeping a Charlton boy out, he was disliked because he had 2 left feet.
  • bristoladdick
    bristoladdick Posts: 1,148
    It could be argued that Green is a Charlton boy.

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  • alangee
    alangee Posts: 398


    Dont agree, Francis was not disliked because he was keeping a Charlton boy out, he was disliked because he had 2 left feet.
    Francis was given a hard time initially because he was keeping Solly out of the team. The barracking he continually got then started to effect him. He seems to be doing OK for Bournemouth.

    I agree that Solly is by far the better player, but whoever comes in and replaces any of our homegrown palyers are given a rough ride.
  • MLS
    MLS Posts: 143
    edited June 2012
    Really don't know why people favour Wagstaff over Green. Really don't see what Wagstaff offers other than the occasional goal. Even his nickname is irritating.
  • Bubble
    Bubble Posts: 1,541
    Can we just keep this thread for Rumour's rather than another long winded debate about Green and Wagstaff
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,632
    Can we just keep this thread for Rumour's rather than another long winded debate about Green and Wagstaff
    Yes this.
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,002
    My Boro-supporting mate's view on Hoyte:

    'Right back but can play left, great athlete but is woeful crossing or shooting when attacking. I like him and he would be a good signing. Also he looks like the cartoon character morph.'
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,251
    FR suggesting Billy Kee Burton Albion striker who would have been at Leicester with SCP. One for the future? Scored 12 in 20 (14 starts) this season just finished

    Only 5' 9" though so clearly not good enough : - )

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Kee
  • DeeBee
    DeeBee Posts: 1,033
    Don't know if anyone has pointed this out but yet again Daily Star go all out on reporting on us http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/255038/Charlton-want-Keith-Andrews/?
  • Tewkesbury_Addick
    Tewkesbury_Addick Posts: 627
    Don't know if anyone has pointed this out but yet again Daily Star go all out on reporting on us http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/255038/Charlton-want-Keith-Andrews/?
    I didn't think it was possible... But that is actually WORSE than the previous article
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,683
    Don't know if anyone has pointed this out but yet again Daily Star go all out on reporting on us http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/255038/Charlton-want-Keith-Andrews/?
    I think they got the story off this site.
  • EastStand
    EastStand Posts: 4,109
    Don't know if anyone has pointed this out but yet again Daily Star go all out on reporting on us http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/255038/Charlton-want-Keith-Andrews/?
    And to think, some lucky sod gets paid for that.
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