Newcastle's Muslim stars told not to play in new kit
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"Shaykh Ibrahim Mogra, assistant secretary general of the MCB, said: "There are two aspects to this. We have the rulings of the religious law and we have the individual's choice and decision on how they want to follow or not follow that rule.
"The idea is to protect the vulnerable and the needy from exploitation by the rich and powerful.
"When they are lending and are charging large amounts of interest, it means the poor will have short-term benefit from the loan but long-term difficulty in paying it back because the rate of interest is not something they can keep up with."
So no one has told them not to wear the shirts and none of the players have said they won't.
Non-story
NB most muslims in the world aren't Arabs
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Johan Cruyff refused to wear identifiable adidas shirts when playing for Holland - he took off the logo and removed one of the stripes. No one made a fuss about this.
FWIW if I was lucky enough to be a sports person I would not weant to wear alcohol or cigarette or political or charity advertising and I would hope I'd be strong enough to make a stand about it.
I see that there are a few sports teams in europe wearing stuff sponsoring brothels - would this be ok? It wouldn't be with me.
It is a moral minefield that needs more thought than has been displayed by some on here..0 -
you are paid to play football. you wear a kit so you can identify other players on your team. just crack on and play the game, stop worrying.iainment said:Johan Cruyff refused to wear identifiable adidas shirts when playing for Holland - he took off the logo and removed one of the stripes. No one made a fuss about this.
FWIW if I was lucky enough to be a sports person I would not weant to wear alcohol or cigarette or political or charity advertising and I would hope I'd be strong enough to make a stand about it.
I see that there are a few sports teams in europe wearing stuff sponsoring brothels - would this be ok? It wouldn't be with me.
It is a moral minefield that needs more thought than has been displayed by some on here..0 -
It's the shirt that counts - not the sponsor. So not wearing the sponsors logo wouldn't make you unidentifiable.ValleyGary said:
you are paid to play football. you wear a kit so you can identify other players on your team. just crack on and play the game, stop worrying.iainment said:Johan Cruyff refused to wear identifiable adidas shirts when playing for Holland - he took off the logo and removed one of the stripes. No one made a fuss about this.
FWIW if I was lucky enough to be a sports person I would not weant to wear alcohol or cigarette or political or charity advertising and I would hope I'd be strong enough to make a stand about it.
I see that there are a few sports teams in europe wearing stuff sponsoring brothels - would this be ok? It wouldn't be with me.
It is a moral minefield that needs more thought than has been displayed by some on here..0 -
who? i want one of their shirts!!!!!!!!iainment said:Johan Cruyff refused to wear identifiable adidas shirts when playing for Holland - he took off the logo and removed one of the stripes. No one made a fuss about this.
FWIW if I was lucky enough to be a sports person I would not weant to wear alcohol or cigarette or political or charity advertising and I would hope I'd be strong enough to make a stand about it.
I see that there are a few sports teams in europe wearing stuff sponsoring brothels - would this be ok? It wouldn't be with me.
It is a moral minefield that needs more thought than has been displayed by some on here..
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Brassalona.cafcdave123 said:
who? i want one of their shirts!!!!!!!!iainment said:Johan Cruyff refused to wear identifiable adidas shirts when playing for Holland - he took off the logo and removed one of the stripes. No one made a fuss about this.
FWIW if I was lucky enough to be a sports person I would not weant to wear alcohol or cigarette or political or charity advertising and I would hope I'd be strong enough to make a stand about it.
I see that there are a few sports teams in europe wearing stuff sponsoring brothels - would this be ok? It wouldn't be with me.
It is a moral minefield that needs more thought than has been displayed by some on here..0 -
We are a very diverse country. Muslim countries are not. Fair play to the players of they don't want to wear certain sponsors due to religious reasons.0
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What's the name of the team that has "Wanka" on and some addicks who use the RoD wear the shirt?
I'm just wondering whether that woulb be against Shia Law?0 - Sponsored links:
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'There is nothing illegal about Wonga’s enterprise, but the firm’s charge of 4,214% APR on its internet-based payday loans has been criticised by local MPs, consumer groups and trade unions.'
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I was rather hoping that Wongas financial dealings might have offended a few Christian footballers as well.
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Personal choice on the part of the individual. If they were good enough and played for Charlton I wouldn't want to see them sacked, and if they were good enough they wouldn't be.
No matter what happens, its all publicity and no-one is going to change their minds about Wonga one way or another anyway.0 -
I hope all the players complain and don't want to wear the shirt. Wasn't it Jesus who through the money lenders from the temple?
And before moaning about sharia law, I think you will find the same is in the catholic faith as well.0 -
But why use a long term year rate, when they are for short term loans?Greg said:
Fair enough, nobody is being forced to borrow anything. But a business model based on a representative APR of over 4000%, while perfectly legal, is not really cool. I wouldn't want them sponsoring Charlton, personally.Rizzo said:Yeah, bunch of bastards. Kidnapping people off the street and forcing them to borrow money.
The APR has to be quoted as yearly rate, but is irrelavant for short term loan.
You borrow £100 quid off a mate for something and agree to pay him £110 the next week.
Sounds reasonable to me.
But hold on - that is 10% for a weeks loan.
Add another compounded 10% the next week, and the week after, and week after that and after a year you owe approximately £14,000 - your mate is a thieving bastard preying on your financial difficulties lending you money at 140,000% APR
Surely enough to be mentioned on the Dissowned a friend thread.0 -
Being religious is a personal choice, which people are entitled to. However that doesn't stop me from thinking that they are all absolutely mental. As for that quote about this ruling to stop "the rich and powerful exploiting the weak". Look at your religion's history and it exists TO exploit the weak. Complete non story but still utterly ridiculous.0
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Point of order, he was extradited to face trial in USA, and not deported which is something else altogether.Macronate said:this is in response to Abu Hamza's deportation.
you get rid of one of our most powerful clerical leaders, we'll try to stop players wearing stripey shirts.
tit for tat.
Sorry to be pedantic.
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Sorry mate but I think that statement is total bollox! Hamza (scumbag that he is) does not represent all Muslims in the same way that George W Bush or Tony Blair do not represent all Christians.Macronate said:this is in response to Abu Hamza's deportation.
you get rid of one of our most powerful clerical leaders, we'll try to stop players wearing stripey shirts.
tit for tat.
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Think this could be a whoosh moment.AddickUpNorth said:
Sorry mate but I think that statement is total bollox! Hamza (scumbag that he is) does not represent all Muslims in the same way that George W Bush or Tony Blair do not represent all Christians.Macronate said:this is in response to Abu Hamza's deportation.
you get rid of one of our most powerful clerical leaders, we'll try to stop players wearing stripey shirts.
tit for tat.
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Again, asumptions are being made about the players simply because they are "overpaid, egotistical etc". People on here are saying "sack them".
Well hang on, where does it say that the players have actually agreed to this?0 -
southamptonaddick said:
Think this could be a whoosh moment.AddickUpNorth said:
Sorry mate but I think that statement is total bollox! Hamza (scumbag that he is) does not represent all Muslims in the same way that George W Bush or Tony Blair do not represent all Christians.Macronate said:this is in response to Abu Hamza's deportation.
you get rid of one of our most powerful clerical leaders, we'll try to stop players wearing stripey shirts.
tit for tat.
( oh no, I haven't made myself look a fool have I?
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I'm glad so many on here have acknowledged what a complete non story this is. Until one of the players comes out and says themselves they refuse to wear it then there really is nothing to discuss.
As for another discussion on pay day lenders, do we need to go through it again? Think that one is best left well alone.0 -
Plenty of locals dont obey these strict rules, let alone the expats!!SE10 said:
British people obey there extremely strict rules in traditional muslim countrys, yet we pander to every need they have.
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Looks like they do have it but just tape it over so others can't see it. - kind of defeats the object.adamtheaddick said:yes a few of the kent muslim players dont have the alchol sponser on their shirt as alchol is a sin.
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Out of interest, can anyone that says they are a muslim, use these muslim banks and take advantage of the 0% rates that muslims get?0
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Wonga already sponsor a club as anyone who was at Blackpool on Saturday would know. I have no idea if any of their players are moslems, however.
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What's a moslem?Bill_Stumps said:Wonga already sponsor a club as anyone who was at Blackpool on Saturday would know. I have no idea if any of their players are moslems, however.
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a follower of oswald mosley0
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A different way of sayin Muslim. In fact iirc Moslem is a more direct translation of the Arabic termAddickted4life said:
What's a moslem?Bill_Stumps said:Wonga already sponsor a club as anyone who was at Blackpool on Saturday would know. I have no idea if any of their players are moslems, however.
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