Atmosphere v Brighton
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I bet u dojohnnybev1987 said:DA9 said:
I know plenty of gay people, and I can tell you each & every one of them would be offended.CAFCsayer said:"Does your boyfriend know you're here"
"We can see you holding hands"
"Sing when you're rimming"
"We forgot that you were queer"
"You take it up the aaaaaaarse, you take it up the arse"
"We know why you're standing up"
All have to be sung. They're to a club renound for being in the gay capital and are not in any way malicious. I don't know one gay person who would be offended by us singing these; man up and stop being so precious and PC.
I agree has to be sung, its just banter! in no way is it near singing a racist song...
Sing em, everyone seems to be making way to much of this. It's a football game chants will always happen and if people get offended over petty sterotype chants then they shouldn't be at the game.0 -
The main reason I hope we don't sing these songs is because of the absolute mountain worth of over the top comments that will come out on here the day after if the Millwall game is anything to go by.0
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LOL correct way OTT lately on this site, fair enough dont be impressed about certain things but constantly moaning and saying how bad it makes the club looks doesnt really achieve anything. Just comes across like forum police IMOcafctom said:The main reason I hope we don't sing these songs is because of the absolute mountain worth of over the top comments that will come out on here the day after if the Millwall game is anything to go by.
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Da9 explains some of the shirts fella !!!0
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So we are Ok with intent its thelevel of thats the issue ?0
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yepjohnnybev1987 said:
LOL correct way OTT lately on this site, fair enough dont be impressed about certain things but constantly moaning and saying how bad it makes the club looks doesnt really achieve anything. Just comes across like forum police IMOcafctom said:The main reason I hope we don't sing these songs is because of the absolute mountain worth of over the top comments that will come out on here the day after if the Millwall game is anything to go by.
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WillmoreTheRed said:
I bet u dojohnnybev1987 said:DA9 said:
I know plenty of gay people, and I can tell you each & every one of them would be offended.CAFCsayer said:"Does your boyfriend know you're here"
"We can see you holding hands"
"Sing when you're rimming"
"We forgot that you were queer"
"You take it up the aaaaaaarse, you take it up the arse"
"We know why you're standing up"
All have to be sung. They're to a club renound for being in the gay capital and are not in any way malicious. I don't know one gay person who would be offended by us singing these; man up and stop being so precious and PC.
I agree has to be sung, its just banter! in no way is it near singing a racist song...
Sing em, everyone seems to be making way to much of this. It's a football game chants will always happen and if people get offended over petty sterotype chants then they shouldn't be at the game.
Even though the ban and the prosecution hold the same length as singing Racist songs
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I remember when gay meant happy! Got me in a lot of trouble I can tell you!0
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Was thinking about my first home game of the season, now I cannot afford the vaseline... (No homosexuals have been harmed in the writing of this unpolitically correct posting)0
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There not Brighton fans but gay friends of mine found the "we can see you holding hands" chant funny but i can imagine it is boring for Brighton fans now.
That song is harmless in my opinion but have to agree some of the other's are offensive and really should be treated the same way as racist songs which i would hope we all agree are morally wrong.0 -
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What is the latest ticket sales for this game? Should be looking at 22/23k hopefully!0
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I should imagine it will be significantly higher than it was for the big pink derby on Saturday. Imagine, the Nigels are top of the league and on fire atm as well.0
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WillmoreTheRed said:
I bet u dojohnnybev1987 said:DA9 said:
I know plenty of gay people, and I can tell you each & every one of them would be offended.CAFCsayer said:"Does your boyfriend know you're here"
"We can see you holding hands"
"Sing when you're rimming"
"We forgot that you were queer"
"You take it up the aaaaaaarse, you take it up the arse"
"We know why you're standing up"
All have to be sung. They're to a club renound for being in the gay capital and are not in any way malicious. I don't know one gay person who would be offended by us singing these; man up and stop being so precious and PC.
I agree has to be sung, its just banter! in no way is it near singing a racist song...
Sing em, everyone seems to be making way to much of this. It's a football game chants will always happen and if people get offended over petty sterotype chants then they shouldn't be at the game.
So we play by your rules. If someone is offended by what you sing its their problem and they should have to stay away from Charlton?
You don't care if anyone is offended, in fact you don't want those people at the Valley. Doesn't matter that is is a "petty stereotype" that re-enforces and normalises that prejudice.
"Chants will always happen" so that makes it ok. Racist/homophobic, doesn't matter as they will "always happen".?
Truth is what was acceptable 50, 30 or even 15 years ago in terms of racist chanting isn't acceptable now. Things do change and racist chanting is one of those. Homophobic chanting will be next. And a good thing too.
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Matt Lucas was interviewed on a docu last year about how he felt about the songs sung to Brighton and he said the same, that generally it was funny. There's a sense of wit and irony about some of it, but as we really have very little supply of either of those I would suggest we steer well clear of this sort of thing.GretnaGreenAddick said:There not Brighton fans but gay friends of mine found the "we can see you holding hands" chant funny but i can imagine it is boring for Brighton fans now.
That song is harmless in my opinion but have to agree some of the other's are offensive and really should be treated the same way as racist songs which i would hope we all agree are morally wrong.
Simply, can we really do no better than copy everyone else and sing crass songs about gays?0 -
If for no other reason (as it seems some of you can't see reason) can we not sing the same old chants because they're boring?
Maybe its because we don't have that much against BHAFC that we can't come up with new chants to throw at them.
The "He's better than Gus" one was good. Anyone got anything else?0 -
I genuinely can not believe we are actually having a serious discussion about whether or not to sing homophobic songs. The answer is clearly that we should absolutely not. Would we be having this argument about racist songs?0
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what about songs that just infer they're a bit mincy?0
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I can't see why we all can't join
handsvoices with the Brighton fans and singkumbayahwe hate Palace0 -
"we all agree, a sandy beach is better than pebbled..."EastStand said:If for no other reason (as it seems some of you can't see reason) can we not sing the same old chants because they're boring?
Maybe its because we don't have that much against BHAFC that we can't come up with new chants to throw at them.
The "He's better than Gus" one was good. Anyone got anything else?
take that brighton you mothers!0 -
"One pier, you've only got one pier"
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"You've a tesco's bag
for a kit"0 -
That's the spirit bloodnut.
One pier is pretty good too!
"You might as well be French"?0 -
"You can stick your Norman Cook up your a**e"
Metaphorically or literally depending on your orientation....0 -
Most people from Brighton are very proud they have a large LGBT community, why is making reference to that in such songs as "we can see you holding hands" and "does your boyfriend know you're here?" Seen as offensive? A lot of people being offended for others in this thread.0
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But are they offended for others or themselves ?0
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As has been covered before some gay people DO find it offensive.kentaddick said:Most people from Brighton are very proud they have a large LGBT community, why is making reference to that in such songs as "we can see you holding hands" and "does your boyfriend know you're here?" Seen as offensive? A lot of people being offended for others in this thread.
Why make up this stuff about people being offended for others. How do you know if any of the people commenting on here are gay or not.
And if people aren't gay or black or Jewish does that mean they are not allowed to speak out against prejudice? Surely it is more reliant on straight, white, gentiles to take a stance.
But it's a lose-lose either way. If you aren't part of the persecuted group then you are not allowed to say anything as you are "being offended for others" . If you are part of the group then you "have a chip on your shoulder/no sense of humour/playing the race/gay/jew card."
You of all people know the Paster Nielmoller quote I take it, KentAddick.
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Let's cut the arguments and just start with the national anthem. Altogether now....."God save our Brighton queens"0
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bloodnut said:
"we all agree, a sandy beach is better than pebbled..."
Forget the classless, embarrassing, insulting homophobic tripe....and please, please sing these on Saturday! Both are quality LOLHenry Irving said:"One pier, you've only got one pier"
After the game noone will remember the cheap gay bashin' but everyone will remember these
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