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Is this the most Championship-esque Championship ever?

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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 64,426
    edited December 2012
    http://www.toffeeweb.com/history/records/alltime.asp

    West Ham, Southampton, Notts County, QPR, Fulham, Bury, Wimbledon, Grimsby all in places 21-44. We're tucked away in 33rd, mid-table obscurity.
  • Ormiston_Addick
    Ormiston_Addick Posts: 8,818
    For me, Charlton vs Barnsley is a 'proper' Championship fixture, if we're playing the Tykes then we are probably in our rightful place.
  • Rob
    Rob Posts: 12,039
    se9addick said:

    Lincsaddick said:

    The champ is a great division .. the heaven of the Prem above .. the hell of Div 1 below .. it should be renamed as 'The Tightrope Division'

    Yep I really love the championship. If you compare how desperate I was for us to get out of League 1 I'm nowhere near that now.
    My sentiments as well. This year I feel a lot more content about where we are but when we were in L1 was chomping to get out.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,376
    After the shame of League One footy for 3 seasons and our scary position after the m'boro defeat I'm more than happy with the comfortableness of where we sit in the championship....
    Although with palace and the scum doing so well it does take the shine of our relative achievement
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,358
    Don't get why you say Wigan should be relegated to division 4?? They have a top chairman, top manager and play great fotball on a shoe string budget
  • GretnaGreenAddick
    GretnaGreenAddick Posts: 3,085
    J BLOCK said:

    Don't get why you say Wigan should be relegated to division 4?? They have a top chairman, top manager and play great fotball on a shoe string budget

    Completly agree teams deserve to be where they are, history and fan base should mean nothing, Wigan are an established Premier team at the moment, must not be far off the same stay as we had.

    I remember a qoute from Lawrenson a few seasons ago saying the problem with the Premier at the moment is it has to many small teams, so insulting and exactly what people like him thought of us when we were there for those years.

    I hope Wigan continue to stay up just to piss off the pundits and fans obssessed with fanbase size and what that club achieved in many cases 30 years or more ago, if ever.

  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,412
    I don't agree that being in the Premiership has to be about about desperately clinging on. For most of our Premiership years we were a comfortable mid level club-too comfortable for some peoples liking. We also challenged the top places a few times and in the process beat every top club except Man Utd at some point. The rot set in at Charlton not because we were struggling but because of general dissatisfation with mid table stability-Let us hope that if that happens again we remember what happened when Curbs left

    Look at WBA this year, they are no bigger than we are and are having a real good go. i hope that Powell and the Board have bigger ambitions than some people on this board.
  • doronron
    doronron Posts: 826
    At the moment we need to keep ourselves in the Championship which i think is our true level,you need a 35,000 plus stadium or a mega rich owner to survive in the Prem,and we havnt got either.
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,358
    doronron said:

    At the moment we need to keep ourselves in the Championship which i think is our true level,you need a 35,000 plus stadium or a mega rich owner to survive in the Prem,and we havnt got either.

    Wigan
  • doronron
    doronron Posts: 826
    Wigan--I think they have a very rich owner

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  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,397
    doronron said:

    At the moment we need to keep ourselves in the Championship which i think is our true level,you need a 35,000 plus stadium or a mega rich owner to survive in the Prem,and we havnt got either.

    We didn't have either for seven seasons between 2000-2007.
  • doronron
    doronron Posts: 826
    I know we didnt have either from 2000-2007 but look how bad we ended up all because of cash.Idont want to end up back in div 1
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,397
    doronron said:

    I know we didnt have either from 2000-2007 but look how bad we ended up all because of cash.Idont want to end up back in div 1

    Our relegation from the Premiership had nothing to do with cash. Poor management Dowie/Reed/Pardew is what sent us into the Championship.

    If we end up at some point in the next ten to fifteen years having a similar Prem spell before being back in the Championship again then we really cannot complain.
  • doronron
    doronron Posts: 826
    poor management helped send us down but lack of cash also dumped us in div 1.We are still in a poor cash situation or we wouldnt rely on loan deals,just like most clubs in the championship.
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,229
    Man United
    Liverpool
    Arsenal
    Everton
    Chelsea
    Man City
    Sunderland
    Aston Villa
    Newcastle
    Leeds
    Tottenham
    West Ham
    Middlesbrough
    Sheff Wednesday
    Notts Forest
    Derby
    Leicester
    Blackburn
    Wolves
    Norwich

    Probably the 20 biggest clubs.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,990
    Football did exist before all this Premiershit shit.....makes you wonder where the top clubs played before 1992.

    Not that anyone at Sky or The Sun newspaper would know.
  • Stone
    Stone Posts: 3,026
    I would love to see five up, five down each year and really shake things up in the Premiership. It would give so many more teams a chance of their 'season in the sun' and a year of all that Sky money.
    Not such a stupid idea?
  • mascot88
    mascot88 Posts: 9,764
    BR7_addick said:

    Man United
    Liverpool
    Arsenal
    Everton
    Chelsea
    Man City
    Sunderland
    Aston Villa
    Newcastle
    Leeds
    Tottenham
    West Ham
    Middlesbrough
    Sheff Wednesday
    Notts Forest
    Derby
    Leicester
    Blackburn
    Wolves
    Norwich

    Probably the 20 biggest clubs.

    Norwich can &&&& thenselves ... We're bigger than norwich ...

  • grumpyaddick
    grumpyaddick Posts: 6,601
    Oggy Red said:

    Football did exist before all this Premiershit shit.....makes you wonder where the top clubs played before 1992.

    Not that anyone at Sky or The Sun newspaper would know.

    Well said Sir .

    What will happen if Asian and/or Middle East investors keep investing in teams purely to achieve Premiership status with bought in foreign mercenary talent and then serve a largely overseas TV audience?

    It could leave genuine heritage teams in the Championship playing in front of real supporters.

    Leicester (Thailand) and Cardiff (China) will be next to go up. Leeds Camels (Middle East) will probably follow if Ken Bates has done his sums right.

    I would rather pay £20 to watch us play Notts Forest or Barnsley than Reading, Wigan, the Leicester Bangkoks or the Cardiff Dragons. Football should be a bit more than just who pays wins.

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