Chelsea poach our Eng U17 prospect
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So nothing like we got from west ham for Defoe.
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There is compensation - which is determined by the number of years that a player has spent at the club. This varies between £12,500 - £40,000 per year depending on the academy category.0 -
The guy on here whose kid just signed for Charlton gave us an indication of what we're up against. Arsenal gave him about £500 worth of kit, we gave him last years kit handed down. And that was for kids who were about 7-8.
I'd imagine at the level this kid is at, playing for England schoolboys and almost at pro level, the financial rewards are so much greater. Hardly a surprise he's gone.
F*ck him though, the law of averages suggests he's more likely to end up the next John Bostock than the next Defoe.0 -
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Go watch a club in blue square south every week, I hear they're really short of researchers at that level.JT said:I want to be a FM Researcher
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it's 'cos his dad really wanted him to drive a steam train.Leroy Ambrose said:Stupid fucking name. They're welcome to him.
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There is just something wrong with Prem clubs behaving like this and smaller clubs get nothing. Spurs have taken a few of ours by paying extra 'expenses'.
If clubs below the prem canot hold on to their youth players - what is the point?
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Makes a mockery of Valley Gold. In ten years time he may be on MOTD having come up through the Chelsea Academy no doubt. Another reason to dislike them.0
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I'm not disagreeing with you - but the clubs voted for this system accepting larger payments from the premiership in return.Redrobo said:There is just something wrong with Prem clubs behaving like this and smaller clubs get nothing. Spurs have taken a few of ours by paying extra 'expenses'.
If clubs below the prem canot hold on to their youth players - what is the point?0 -
he'll probably play less games for Chelski than Scotty Parker did.0
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Most, but not all. Think I am right in saying we didn't.BlackForestReds said:
I'm not disagreeing with you - but the clubs voted for this system accepting larger payments from the premiership in return.Redrobo said:There is just something wrong with Prem clubs behaving like this and smaller clubs get nothing. Spurs have taken a few of ours by paying extra 'expenses'.
If clubs below the prem canot hold on to their youth players - what is the point?
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I believe you are right but the majority did...0
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I think it was also a case of the Premier League saying to football league clubs "agree to this or we'll cut what we currently give you".
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If your getting that money at that age you got to take there are no guarantees in this world however sad it isseth plum said:If you're 15 or 16 and get told you will get £1000 per week it must seem like you've won the lottery. Knowing Chelski it will be at least that, plus a few other sweetners.
Not making it at Chelski won't worry him either, because at that age young players feel certain they'll make it.
Chelsea supporters will argue 'of course the lad will want to go to a better club', not true, it is about the money.
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Football really is a screwed up sport nowadays when clubs bring these kids all the way through, give them a chance and are repaid by them fing off at the first opportunity whilst the initial club gets next to nothing for all the effort they put in.
Really don't know why the big clubs bother having younger academies when they can just go out and poach all the 14-17year olds whenever they want0 -
But at his age we will get nothing. Kids of this age are not meant to travel more than 1hr to training for many good reasons.BlackForestReds said:
I'm not disagreeing with you - but the clubs voted for this system accepting larger payments from the premiership in return.Redrobo said:There is just something wrong with Prem clubs behaving like this and smaller clubs get nothing. Spurs have taken a few of ours by paying extra 'expenses'.
If clubs below the prem canot hold on to their youth players - what is the point?
I am not sure where their training ground is (Surrey somewhere?), but it will be over an hour.
No one will complain because they know the FA will not do anything - as usual.
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I think Chelsea train in Cobham.
We will get something - just not much.0 -
an hour from where? Their home? Depends where he lives.0
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Probably a good deal financially for him and his family, however career wise probably not the best, Chelsea aren't the best at bringing through youngsters and even if you are decent they'll just sign a £30m player ahead of you anyway0
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The principal changes from the former academy system are:
Abolition of the "90-minute" rule – Academies were only allowed to sign players aged under 18 if they reside within 90 minutes travel of the training facility.[3] This has historically provided each club with a "catchment area". There were some exceptions to the rule to provide for players living in remote areas. Larger clubs were prevented from taking youth players away from home at a young age for training.
A four-tier academy system – It is proposed that there will be four gradings of academies, with the highest rated academies being able to sign the best players and command the largest fees. Category 1 academies will have high contact time with young players, require a minimum of 18 full-time staff and an operational budget of £2.5 M.[4] Academies will be reviewed every two years and re-categorised if necessary. Categorisation is the result of an independent audit.
A fixed tariff for transfers of players under 18 – The proposed tariff is:[1]
Years spent at academy Fixed fee per year
aged 9–11 £3,000
aged 12–16 £12,500 - £40,000 depending on academy category
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From his twitter it seems true. His favourite player is now Mata after seeing him live at Stamford Bridge. Posted last Monday, home to Man Utd.0
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Actually it seems doing some reading that the 60/90 minute thing is now obsolete.
In any case Prem League clubs got around the rule by setting up academies outside their catchment area, or they just moved the entire family and found a school for the youth player in question.0 -
He could be a chelsea fan for all we know...
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Wasn't it blackmail? The PL saying take this crappy deal or you'll get nowt?BlackForestReds said:
I'm not disagreeing with you - but the clubs voted for this system accepting larger payments from the premiership in return.Redrobo said:There is just something wrong with Prem clubs behaving like this and smaller clubs get nothing. Spurs have taken a few of ours by paying extra 'expenses'.
If clubs below the prem canot hold on to their youth players - what is the point?0 -
Sorry but I don't understand this at all.superchrissypowell said:He could be a chelsea fan for all we know...
Good luck to the lad
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Yes...MountsfieldPark said:
Wasn't it blackmail? The PL saying take this crappy deal or you'll get nowt?BlackForestReds said:
I'm not disagreeing with you - but the clubs voted for this system accepting larger payments from the premiership in return.Redrobo said:There is just something wrong with Prem clubs behaving like this and smaller clubs get nothing. Spurs have taken a few of ours by paying extra 'expenses'.
If clubs below the prem canot hold on to their youth players - what is the point?
But I doubt that it would have survived a legal challenge.
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Pretty simple reallyLargeAddick said:
Sorry but I don't understand this at all.superchrissypowell said:He could be a chelsea fan for all we know...
Good luck to the lad
He could be a lifelong chelsea fan and therefore his dream move
Not many players make it, so if there is s chance he may not make it, he may as well get paid more money in the time he has
Secondly, he is more likely to get a club being released from chelsea than he is if he were released by us
Many fans wear rose tinted glasses, just because we love cafc and would stay, that doesnt mean its the right thing for this kid to do,
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Hard to argue those points except for the fact we found him. We developed him. We gave him his chance and we will get next to nothing for doing so.superchrissypowell said:
Pretty simple reallyLargeAddick said:
Sorry but I don't understand this at all.superchrissypowell said:He could be a chelsea fan for all we know...
Good luck to the lad
He could be a lifelong chelsea fan and therefore his dream move
Not many players make it, so if there is s chance he may not make it, he may as well get paid more money in the time he has
Secondly, he is more likely to get a club being released from chelsea than he is if he were released by us
Many fans wear rose tinted glasses, just because we love cafc and would stay, that doesnt mean its the right thing for this kid to do,
Good luck to him
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In the last 20 years (in terms of English players) Chelsea have brought through John Terry, Carlton Cole and Ryan Bertrand. Hardly inspiring.0
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Totally agreesuperchrissypowell said:
Pretty simple reallyLargeAddick said:
Sorry but I don't understand this at all.superchrissypowell said:He could be a chelsea fan for all we know...
Good luck to the lad
He could be a lifelong chelsea fan and therefore his dream move
Not many players make it, so if there is s chance he may not make it, he may as well get paid more money in the time he has
Secondly, he is more likely to get a club being released from chelsea than he is if he were released by us
Many fans wear rose tinted glasses, just because we love cafc and would stay, that doesnt mean its the right thing for this kid to do,
Good luck to him
I think the insults aimed at the kid are bang out of order
What would you advise your son seriously0
