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Millwall are key!

Well, a win when a draw was probably the fairest result a big positive but the other results were so-so. What do we need to happen now? Well us win our final 2 for starters. Then (Home team first):

Leicester to lose to Watford next Friday
On the Saturday, Blackburn to beat Palarse, Millwall to beat Forest (sorry). Cardiff to beat Bolton

Then we need Millwall to beat Palace in the week.

Then on the final day Bolton to lose to Blackpool, Palace to lose to Peterborough, Forest and Leicester to draw. That would have us 5th so we can afford for one of these teams to do better than suggested. Can't see Bolton losing to Blackpool but the results are not impossible. If we did do it, we'd have Millwall to thank though!!


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  • nolly
    nolly Posts: 12,122
    Blackpool can do Bolton that's a derby
  • flyingkiwiDK
    flyingkiwiDK Posts: 5,736
    Interesting stuff! Thanks for posting.
  • flyingkiwiDK
    flyingkiwiDK Posts: 5,736
    Has anyone checked bet365 after today's game to see what the odds are of us landing a playoff spot?
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 64,426
    edited April 2013
    I'll take Palace out of the equation (as tempting as it is to leave them in) because they have better GD than us... Would be great to finish above them but I can't see it.

    It rides on Bolton losing away to Cardiff, then in their derby at home to Blackpool. If Forest & Leicester both lose next week too, and play out a draw afterwards, then we nick 6th spot.

    One other thing, if we beat Boro next weekend while Forest lose to Millwall, our goal difference will be better than Forest and soooooo... we could take Forest beating Leicester and pip them on goal difference. Of course, a draw would still do it in that case but just another possibility. :-) Bolton don't have much better goal difference either so could maybe accept them drawing with Blackpool if they get heavily beaten at Cardiff.
  • Has anyone checked bet365 after today's game to see what the odds are of us landing a playoff spot?

    365 is 25/1
    Victor is 33/1
  • Still think its best to keep your money in your pocket.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,823
    edited April 2013
    The goal difference to Palace is a bit of a red herring - if they lose 3 games by 1 goal, it goes down to plus 7. So we have to pull 4 goals back in our 2 wins as we are plus 3. Goals scored is currently exactly the same so we would go above them on goals scored. of course if Palace lose one of those 3 by 2 goals we have to be 3 goals up. Not so pie in the sky.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 64,426
    edited April 2013
    Basically if two of them win next weekend, our chances are completely rogered.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,823
    Yes, that is the glass half empty scenario.
  • Yes, that is the glass half empty scenario.

    Lol


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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 64,426
    I'm half full kinda guy, honest. :-)
  • LuckyReds
    LuckyReds Posts: 5,866
    edited April 2013
    We know you wont believe us.. We know you wont beliiieeeve usssss...
    The Reds are Going up?








    In a season or two. ;)
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,823
    If we did fluke a play off place on a record low of 67 points- who would bet against us?
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 64,426
    I'd enjoy dumping Udinese reserves out of the picture.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,823
    A couple of things make this unlikely scenario feel like it could happen - firstly 6 goals last week - wouldn't be possible without those and needing Millwall to help us.
  • Interesting analysis.
    Shame we never beat Boro....
    0-0 is my guess.
    Plus the results above from our competitors will not happen either.
    Roll on the kids v Brizzle.
  • dizzee
    dizzee Posts: 5,616
    Na na na na na na na na na na na, muttley give it up, give it up, muttley give it uuuup.
  • CrayAddick
    CrayAddick Posts: 3,915
    Can we change the title. Sparrows lion might get a woody...
  • _MrDick
    _MrDick Posts: 13,148
    Just think, if we hadn't conceded those last minute goals against Birmingham...
  • creepyaddick
    creepyaddick Posts: 6,152
    edited April 2013

    The goal difference to Palace is a bit of a red herring - if they lose 3 games by 1 goal, it goes down to plus 7. So we have to pull 4 goals back in our 2 wins as we are plus 3. Goals scored is currently exactly the same so we would go above them on goals scored. of course if Palace lose one of those 3 by 2 goals we have to be 3 goals up. Not so pie in the sky.

    I thought Palace had scored 10 more than us

    Also what are Millwall chances of winning all their 4 games and Bolton Leicester Forest and us losing our last 2, will they get a playoff spot from 17th place? They have 3 home games then away to Derby last one

    Edit. Just noticed would have to be a Forest Leicester draw, so both them and us want a draw from that game

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  • creepyaddick
    creepyaddick Posts: 6,152
    I can also see Watford going up auto as Hull have two tough games left, Barnsley away and Cardiff at home
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,823
    edited April 2013
    If Millwall won all their games, they could get the same points as us if we won our last two. But where as we are on plus 3 GD, they are on minus 8 so they would have a gap to close! If we win our last 2 we will be on plus 5 at least. If Millwall win every game 3-0 they will be short!

    As for giving it up - well I do admit there is much more chance of it not happening but the point is, the results needed are feasible! The real test on whether you believe it is possible deep down would be if you are pleased if Millwall score against Forest. How can you ever be pleased if that happens unless you believe it can help us.
  • seriously_red
    seriously_red Posts: 5,741

    I can also see Watford going up auto as Hull have two tough games left, Barnsley away and Cardiff at home

    I can see Hull going up and Barnsley going down ... Hull are good and only need 3 points to secure automatic promotion

  • maybe_baby
    maybe_baby Posts: 2,609
    There is definitely too much drug taking on CL.
  • And we wonder why they call us anoraks ;0)
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,823

    And we wonder why they call us anoraks ;0)

    I'll get my coat!

  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 29,021

    And we wonder why they call us anoraks ;0)

    I'll get my coat!

    Is it covered in badges?
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,823
    yes trainspotting ones! Still think it isn't too bad with two matches to go to have a look at what's what and what is required!
  • PL54
    PL54 Posts: 10,757
    I think it unlikely we will make the play offs so we need Palace and Millwall to both have last day disappointment.

    Palace to miss the play offs and Millwall to go down please.
  • CafcWest
    CafcWest Posts: 6,231
    Blackburn to beat Palace...? Don't think so...