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Scouting Non League Players

pettgra
pettgra Posts: 1,574
in General Charlton
Dwight Gayle was playing non-league football for Staines a couple of years ago and now is a Premier league player. He was quoted as saying that there are lots of players out there that could easily make the grade. We tried and failed with Dickson, Pope looks promising and Pritchard looks comfortable. I know peoples opinion of Pritchard differs; however, one thing that cannot be denied he is worth a lot more than we paid for him.
Peterborough made it clear that the non league market was one that they would be actively pursuing in the future, hence they picked up Boyd ( one of ours incidentally), Gayle and Tyrone Barnett.
I get the impression that league clubs are scared to bring in non league players as they cannot give them the time to bed in. If that is the case it is a shame, as financially the league club and non league club could benefit if the player makes it. Apparently, Fraser Franks of Welling is a player that the fans are in no doubt can step up and are resigned to losing him at some stage.
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  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 11,759
    Fraser Franks was released by AFC Wimbledon for a reason. Went to Welling last night and several times last season and he is a solid Conference player. Nothing else.

    The only Welling player imo who could step up to league football is Lafayate. Even then I doubt he would cut it in league one let alone the Championship.
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,283
    Disagree. When the likes of the list below started their careers in non league it goes to show that clubs do look at the lower levels. Sometimes players don't want to move up as they are financially worse off

    Chris Waddle
    Stuart Pearce
    George Boyd
    Paul Williams
    Stan Collymore
    Chris Smalling
    John Barnes
    Ian Wright
  • Absurdistan
    Absurdistan Posts: 8,024
    Ian wright, from right under our noses by the stripey nigels........................arrrgggggghhhh.
  • JT
    JT Posts: 12,348
    I know that Bournemouth were sending someone to look at my bro, but he fractured his face just before hand.
  • Miserableoldgit
    Miserableoldgit Posts: 21,458
    Dave Beasant (Edgware).
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,043
    You forgot Stuart Fleetwood there as well pettgra... Scored for fun for Forest Green Rovers yet then only made one appearance against Hereford in the Carling Cup
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,127
    Charlie Austin
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,683
    Steve Portway Andy Townsend
  • pettgra
    pettgra Posts: 1,574
    ForeverAddickted said:

    You forgot Stuart Fleetwood there as well pettgra... Scored for fun for Forest Green Rovers yet then only made one appearance against Hereford in the Carling Cup

    Oh dear, I did forget him. My argument is getting weaker by the minute!

  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,043
    Craig Mackail-Smith / Aaron McLean / Craig Noone

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  • pettgra
    pettgra Posts: 1,574
    Clem_Snide said:

    Fraser Franks was released by AFC Wimbledon for a reason. Went to Welling last night and several times last season and he is a solid Conference player. Nothing else.

    The only Welling player imo who could step up to league football is Lafayate. Even then I doubt he would cut it in league one let alone the Championship.

    Fair enough. Good win for the Wings though. Making a decent fist of it.

  • DRF
    DRF Posts: 2,455
    Nicky Bailey.
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,363
    Michael Kightly
  • Sonicstud85
    Sonicstud85 Posts: 2,166
    Steve Finnan was from Welling Utd
  • chazza
    chazza Posts: 243
    Clem_Snide said:

    Fraser Franks was released by AFC Wimbledon for a reason. Went to Welling last night and several times last season and he is a solid Conference player. Nothing else.

    The only Welling player imo who could step up to league football is Lafayate. Even then I doubt he would cut it in league one let alone the Championship.

    Given I was in attendance with you I pretty much agree with you. However I think that there's a player in the making in franks and think given the right coaching he could become a pro at a lower league club. Maybe.

  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,683
    edited September 2013
    Does Smalling count as Maidstone? Or his Man U predecessor David Sadler?

    EDIT: Just seen Smalling mentioned already by Shirty above.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,038
    Where's Acworth when you need him...
  • eldavide
    eldavide Posts: 384
    Kevin Phillips
  • mistrollingin
    mistrollingin Posts: 3,868
    Alex Stepney (Tooting & Mitcham).
  • Eddie Firmani
    Eddie Firmani Posts: 650
    Joe Hart. Played for Shrewsbury when they were in the Conference!

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  • Jarman
    Jarman Posts: 1,851
    Eddie Firmani said:

    Joe Hart. Played for Shrewsbury when they were in the Conference!

    And rapidly making his way back down there if the last 6 months are anything to go by! :)

  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,285
    Les Ferdinand came from Hayes.
  • falconwood_1
    falconwood_1 Posts: 7,368
    Clem_Snide said:

    Fraser Franks was released by AFC Wimbledon for a reason. Went to Welling last night and several times last season and he is a solid Conference player. Nothing else.

    The only Welling player imo who could step up to league football is Lafayate. Even then I doubt he would cut it in league one let alone the Championship.

    I think Franks will get picked up at some point by a big Conference side, probably who gains promotion this season.

    Kurtis Guthrie also could step up imo.

    Welling have a number of very good young players (17-19 yo's), who are on the fringes and will break through in the next year or two. Jamie Day knows what he is doing...a very good coach.

    They were excellent vs Forest Green Rovers, whose playing budget is £1million a season, Welling's is, erm, probably around 10% of that.
  • Eddie Firmani
    Eddie Firmani Posts: 650
    falconwood_1 said:

    Clem_Snide said:

    Fraser Franks was released by AFC Wimbledon for a reason. Went to Welling last night and several times last season and he is a solid Conference player. Nothing else.

    The only Welling player imo who could step up to league football is Lafayate. Even then I doubt he would cut it in league one let alone the Championship.

    I think Franks will get picked up at some point by a big Conference side, probably who gains promotion this season.

    Kurtis Guthrie also could step up imo.

    Welling have a number of very good young players (17-19 yo's), who are on the fringes and will break through in the next year or two. Jamie Day knows what he is doing...a very good coach.

    They were excellent vs Forest Green Rovers, whose playing budget is £1million a season, Welling's is, erm, probably around 10% of that.
    Hard to argue with that statement. Every chance that he could get "picked up", too!

  • falconwood_1
    falconwood_1 Posts: 7,368
    Eddie Firmani said:

    falconwood_1 said:

    Clem_Snide said:

    Fraser Franks was released by AFC Wimbledon for a reason. Went to Welling last night and several times last season and he is a solid Conference player. Nothing else.

    The only Welling player imo who could step up to league football is Lafayate. Even then I doubt he would cut it in league one let alone the Championship.

    I think Franks will get picked up at some point by a big Conference side, probably who gains promotion this season.

    Kurtis Guthrie also could step up imo.

    Welling have a number of very good young players (17-19 yo's), who are on the fringes and will break through in the next year or two. Jamie Day knows what he is doing...a very good coach.

    They were excellent vs Forest Green Rovers, whose playing budget is £1million a season, Welling's is, erm, probably around 10% of that.
    Hard to argue with that statement. Every chance that he could get "picked up", too!

    There are a lot of clubs in the Conference and elsewhere that have spent heavily on their squads and are going nowhere, I was surprised no-one picked him and his team in the summer.

    Lots of ego driven idiot Chairmen around......
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,265
    Dean Sinclair. Pardew really put me off non-league shopping for a while
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,602
    In recent years Hamlet have supplied Dickson to Charlton, a player to West Ham and a player to Huddersfield, so it does show league are looking at the non leagues and taking a punt
  • Miserableoldgit
    Miserableoldgit Posts: 21,458
    "The Eagles have strong links with the Isthmian League Premier Division outfit, with the likes of Ian Wright, Alan Pardew, George Ndah, Leon Cort and Quade Taylor going on to represent Palace having previously played for Dulwich Hamlet".
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,043
    edited September 2013
    Kap10 said:

    In recent years Hamlet have supplied Dickson to Charlton, a player to West Ham and a player to Huddersfield, so it does show league are looking at the non leagues and taking a punt

    Wasnt there a lad who went to Liverpool as well or was that just on trial

    Who was the guy we got from Tooting & Mitcham... Smith someone?
  • harveys_gardener
    harveys_gardener Posts: 7,038
    I was broke and used to watch local side Woking early 90s. I recommended Tim Buzgalo to the club and got a free ticket to a match at the Valley. Shortly after Buzgalo got a hat-trick vs W Brom in the 4-1cup win but soon after did his cruciate. I wonder had he been fit whether the club may have taken a punt?

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