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Bored with 'blame Hamer'

Todds_right_hook
Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,924
in General Charlton
1st goal - Wilson lost the man (and at least one other)
2nd goal - Harriot
3rd - He stayed put but did Jacko give him a call? Jacko was then very weak in the challenge
4th - Maybe but it was a soft and stupid free kick to give away

In my opinion, is the best we have and has won us more points than he has cost us.
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  • Boom
    Boom Posts: 1,695
    I blame hamer.
  • MLS
    MLS Posts: 143
    He couldn't even be arsed to clap the fans on Saturday.
  • cafcdan18
    cafcdan18 Posts: 3,664
    edited November 2013
    I am bored with Hamer costing us points:

    Boro home
    Forest home
    Leeds home (arguable granted but at fault for 3rd imo)

    He may be the best we have, but that is not saying much. I have said before, he is not the biggest problem we have (scoring goals is currently) but he is one of the weaker players and really needs some competition.
  • cafcdan18
    cafcdan18 Posts: 3,664
    edited November 2013
    Also has he won us that many points this season?

    Barnsley and Blackburn away he played very well but our in terms of our other points, not sure he has been that instrumental.

    Would much rather we went and spent any money on Kane or Obika on loan but if there were some funds available, a new GK may be on Powell's radar.
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,924
    The goal keeper is the easy person to blame. There are 4 defenders, 4 midfielders and 2 forwards. If one plays badly you can hide more. Wilson had a terrible game on Saturday, gave away the first and was in limbo for the 2nd which is why Harroit was covering so deep. Wilson didn't put any good crosses in but it gets forgotten. The keeper gets thae abuse, just like Elliot used too

    so CAFCDan, Hamer only won us 6 points, including having a blinder in a 6 nil victory??? Rubbish. Not saying he is Gordon Banks but he has had moe good games than bad and has won us a hell of a lot more points than 6.
  • cafcdan18
    cafcdan18 Posts: 3,664
    edited November 2013
    Barnsley in August when we drew 2-2, he played well.

    I was only referring to this season when comparing points won to lost.
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,924
    Apologies, I thought you meant last season
  • Addickted4life
    Addickted4life Posts: 7,479
    Sorry but he was at fault for the third, that was his to claim. Not at fault for the rest at all and has generally been alright so far this season.
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,398
    Where is the thread slagging off Callum Harriott for giving away the penalty and not being in Ronaldo like form this season?

    Is QPR going to be his turn?
  • sunbury-addick
    sunbury-addick Posts: 1,931
    Addickted4life said:

    Sorry but he was at fault for the third, that was his to claim. Not at fault for the rest at all and has generally been alright so far this season.

    Yep, I think I rate him :)


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  • I_Saw_Semedo_Score
    I_Saw_Semedo_Score Posts: 1,632
    edited November 2013
    Bored with threads trying to ban people from pointing out errors if and when they occur.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,678
    Bored with Hamer..
    Bored with Charlton..
    Bored with football..
    Bored with work..
    Bored with life..

    Where's that hosepipe?!
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,722
    I'm bored with Hamer threads.... can we start another one?
  • tangoflash
    tangoflash Posts: 10,800
    3rd one, Jackson at fault. Let Mc get goal side of him far too easily......
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,337
    tangoflash said:

    3rd one, Jackson at fault. Let Mc get goal side of him far too easily......

    More than that, he actually pushed him one step to the right which teed him up perfectly for the volley.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,458
    If we could score goals Hamer's goalkeeping wouldn't come under such close scrutiny. No matter how you look at it it's our lack of goals that's killing us
  • A-R-T-H-U-R
    A-R-T-H-U-R Posts: 7,678
    carly burn said:

    Bored with Hamer..
    Bored with Charlton..
    Bored with football..
    Bored with work..
    Bored with life..

    Where's that hosepipe?!

    I think it's been banned?
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 29,053
    carly burn said:

    Bored with Hamer..
    Bored with Charlton..
    Bored with football..
    Bored with work..
    Bored with life..

    Where's that hosepipe?!

    I wouldn't bother with the garden, looks like rain.
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,880
    Nice string of clean sheets prior to Leeds game.
  • stonewallpenalty
    stonewallpenalty Posts: 3,842
    He's alright for gawd's sake.

    Does make me laugh when i hear he has premier league class potential as if he is the only who makes saves in the whole league.

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  • cs1986
    cs1986 Posts: 1,535
    Todds_right_hook said:

    1st goal - Wilson lost the man (and at least one other)
    2nd goal - Harriot
    3rd - He stayed put but did Jacko give him a call? Jacko was then very weak in the challenge
    4th - Maybe but it was a soft and stupid free kick to give away

    In my opinion, is the best we have and has won us more points than he has cost us.

    3rd was Hamer all day long. It is for a goalie to command area, esp 6 yard box not a defender. This is Hamers main issue he is not commanding and flaps at crosses. The other 3 were not his fault but the 3rd really killed us after just equalising.

    Hamer is average for this league there are worse keepers but certainly a lot better keepers - Kenny, Schmeichel, Green, Kuszczak, Heaton. And to be fair we had 3rd choice CB playing and Wilson is not a RB
  • boggzy
    boggzy Posts: 3,663
    Has anyone actually noticed Dervite's contribution to the third goal? His overall (dreadful) performance seems to have been overlooked. Morrison also for the first goal.
  • cs1986
    cs1986 Posts: 1,535
    boggzy said:

    Has anyone actually noticed Dervite's contribution to the third goal? His overall (dreadful) performance seems to have been overlooked. Morrison also for the first goal.

    Agree with Dervite, first was Wilson not being in position imo not morrison I thought Morro had decent game...
  • Man_About_Town
    Man_About_Town Posts: 997
    cs1986 said:

    Todds_right_hook said:

    1st goal - Wilson lost the man (and at least one other)
    2nd goal - Harriot
    3rd - He stayed put but did Jacko give him a call? Jacko was then very weak in the challenge
    4th - Maybe but it was a soft and stupid free kick to give away

    In my opinion, is the best we have and has won us more points than he has cost us.

    3rd was Hamer all day long. It is for a goalie to command area, esp 6 yard box not a defender. This is Hamers main issue he is not commanding and flaps at crosses. The other 3 were not his fault but the 3rd really killed us after just equalising.

    Hamer is average for this league there are worse keepers but certainly a lot better keepers - Kenny, Schmeichel, Green, Kuszczak, Heaton. And to be fair we had 3rd choice CB playing and Wilson is not a RB
    A subjective opinion on Hamer's ranking with other keepers in the League, not necessarily where he really lies in the ranking?

  • alan dugdale
    alan dugdale Posts: 3,098
    Didn't we just go 7 or 8 hours without conceding ?!
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,481
    Ilike Hamer and do rate him as a goalkeeper but that doesn't mean he can't make a mistake all be at fault for a goal. Just like every other player he is not beyond criticism.

    He was at fault for the third goal, no doubt about it but I wouldn't drop him as he's the best we have and is one of the best keepers outside the Premier League.
  • redman
    redman Posts: 5,320
    One of the two big differences between the sides was the goalkeepers. Besides the cock ups he has made this season how many times have you thought , wow that was a good save! Having said that I don't like the scapegoat attitude and will give him my backing at games.
  • Rizzo
    Rizzo Posts: 6,468
    Man_About_Town said:

    cs1986 said:

    Todds_right_hook said:

    1st goal - Wilson lost the man (and at least one other)
    2nd goal - Harriot
    3rd - He stayed put but did Jacko give him a call? Jacko was then very weak in the challenge
    4th - Maybe but it was a soft and stupid free kick to give away

    In my opinion, is the best we have and has won us more points than he has cost us.

    3rd was Hamer all day long. It is for a goalie to command area, esp 6 yard box not a defender. This is Hamers main issue he is not commanding and flaps at crosses. The other 3 were not his fault but the 3rd really killed us after just equalising.

    Hamer is average for this league there are worse keepers but certainly a lot better keepers - Kenny, Schmeichel, Green, Kuszczak, Heaton. And to be fair we had 3rd choice CB playing and Wilson is not a RB
    A subjective opinion on Hamer's ranking with other keepers in the League, not necessarily where he really lies in the ranking?

    Is there any ranking system for goalkeepers that isn't subjective?

  • SparrowHawk
    SparrowHawk Posts: 83

    Ben Hamer just went SEVEN HOURS without conceding a goal. One match later and some people have already forgotten ??

    Foolish comments.





  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 12,954
    doesn't get enough goals for me.

    Hamer needs to study Begovic & become more of an all-rounder.

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