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  • LeaburnForEngland
    LeaburnForEngland Posts: 2,291
    edited November 2013
    If there's no takeover and we lose Kemo.... oh dear. The next couple of months really are starting to feel a bit make or break... (more than usual)
  • kings hill addick
    kings hill addick Posts: 5,781
    I don't know why so many people assume that if someone with a lot of money buys the club they will go on to spend a lot on the team.

    If a new buyer is hoping to make money (which seems likely) then they will want to get us promoted without spending a fortune. I can't see why an American would buy Charlton and throw money at it that he/she would never get back.

    We need to remember that almost no clubs in the UK make money, most of them lose money, and from what I've seen the only people that churn a club for profit do so because they find someone stupid enough to pay too much for it.
  • kafka
    kafka Posts: 2,368
    kings hill addick said:

    I don't know why so many people assume that if someone with a lot of money buys the club they will go on to spend a lot on the team.

    If a new buyer is hoping to make money (which seems likely) then they will want to get us promoted without spending a fortune. I can't see why an American would buy Charlton and throw money at it that he/she would never get back.

    We need to remember that almost no clubs in the UK make money, most of them lose money, and from what I've seen the only people that churn a club for profit do so because they find someone stupid enough to pay too much for it.

    Except there is a property play here, which I why Cash got involved in the first place. One way or another, he intends to unlock value based around that. I am hearing that he is not out the running to stay on.
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    SELR_addicks said:

    Richard Cawley ‏@RichCawleySLP 33s

    Blackburn interested in Yann Kermorgant but striker's desire is to sign new deal at #cafc.

    Richard Cawley ‏@RichCawleySLP now

    Kermorgant hoping matter is resolved if #cafc takeover is completed.

    Hmmm.

    Blackburn have just signed Rudy Gestede on loan (one loan player I would have loved to have seen at The Valley.

    If they're after Kermo as well, then I expect Rhodes to go in the January transfer window. Probably Pulis's first purchase.
  • kings hill addick
    kings hill addick Posts: 5,781
    We are, of course, assuming that these stories are not being 'leaked' so as to incentivise the board to offer Yann a new contract - something that I would be more than happy about.
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    Addickted said:

    SELR_addicks said:

    Richard Cawley ‏@RichCawleySLP 33s

    Blackburn interested in Yann Kermorgant but striker's desire is to sign new deal at #cafc.

    Richard Cawley ‏@RichCawleySLP now

    Kermorgant hoping matter is resolved if #cafc takeover is completed.

    Hmmm.

    Blackburn have just signed Rudy Gestede on loan (one loan player I would have loved to have seen at The Valley.

    If they're after Kermo as well, then I expect Rhodes to go in the January transfer window. Probably Pulis's first purchase.
    That would be an awful move for him, the way pulis is going to have to set his side up to have any chance of staying up would mean Rhodes wouldn't get a sniff of the ball, that's why he can't start for Scotland, the football doesn't suit a player that needs to be presented with chances for 90 mins
  • Steve Dowman
    Steve Dowman Posts: 2,406
    kings hill addick said:

    We are, of course, assuming that these stories are not being 'leaked' so as to incentivise the board to offer Yann a new contract - something that I would be more than happy about.

    this, he or his agent trying to get things moving.
  • adamtheaddick
    adamtheaddick Posts: 8,664
    Butt scratcher!!!butt scratcher!!!!
  • incorruptible addick
    incorruptible addick Posts: 2,125
    edited November 2013
    Two observations having just read thought this thread for the first time since commenting when the news broke late last night:

    1. Am I the only CA FC supporter not now boasting, "Yeah, I knew all along it was Josh Harris?"

    2. Presumably the staff were paid today (within the correct time limit). In which case not only a non-story but a private matter between employer and employees which had no business being discussed on here.

    Fingers crosssed the buy-out goes through. These people sound serious and if it happens a bit of hard-headed Harvard Business School training in SE7 will be the best thing to happen to the club since the return to The Valley. The new stadium is going to be fab!

  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,006
    In answer to 1. No you're not.
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  • Bubble
    Bubble Posts: 1,541
    In answer to 2 - Yes I believe they have
  • addickda8
    addickda8 Posts: 6
    Obviously great news with regards to the ACV and giving the real fans a voice in the future of the Valley.

    But I just wonder if any possible new investor/buyer, be it Josh Harris, Germans, Russians or Turks considered the ACV a deal breaker or not?
  • incorruptible addick
    incorruptible addick Posts: 2,125
    edited November 2013
    Covered End said:

    In answer to 1. No you're not.

    It is reassuring to know I am not the only person outside the loop. But according to the last few pages of this thread, I definitely seem to be in a minority among Charlton Lifers in having no prior knowledge of who was behind the takeover.

    It seems odd that many of those who rushed to comment with indecent haste on a unsubstantiated rumour about staff not being paid , showed such exemplary discretion when they were allegedly told the name of our would-be billionaire owners...

  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,738
    Bedsaddick said:

    ShootersHillGuru said:

    Where have the Germans gone then ?


    I heard they are in a room at this moment with the Russians , Swedes , Arabs and Turks discussing a counter offer...
    What are they going to lean on in Main reception if that goes ????

    Is nothing sacred ?

  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,006
    incorruptible addick said:

    Covered End said:

    In answer to 1. No you're not.

    It is reassuring to know I am not the only person outside the loop. But according to the last few pages of this thread, I definitely seem to be in a minority among Charlton Lifers in having no prior knowledge of who was behind the takeover.

    It seems odd that many of those who rushed to comment with indecent haste on a unsubstantiated rumour about staff not being paid , showed such exemplary discretion when they were allegedly told the name of our would-be billionaire owners...

    Well, if you think I may be lying, about Josh Harris, Airman Brown told me on Tuesday.

    So I can confirm that us two knew :-)
  • Steve Dowman
    Steve Dowman Posts: 2,406
    grass.
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    I knew it was Josh Harris before he did
  • lancashire lad
    lancashire lad Posts: 15,626
    does he sell carpets
  • ValleyMick
    ValleyMick Posts: 473
    ....and I didn't know it was Josh Harris before Incorruptible.
  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 12,716
    i knew it before any of ya!
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  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    I think that's the point incorruptible is making.

    Why not post it on Tuesday that you knew it was Josh Harris. I mean nobody waited until next Monday to mention about the non story of the wages.

  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,006
    edited November 2013
    Addickted said:

    I think that's the point incorruptible is making.

    Why not post it on Tuesday that you knew it was Josh Harris. I mean nobody waited until next Monday to mention about the non story of the wages.

    Well that's obvious isn't it. I didn't want to be a "deal breaker" or be accused of being such.

    However, if The Mail print it, then it's out there.
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    So making possible future buyers aware that there may be a cash flow problem at the Club as 'no wages have been paid' that were due today can't be seen as putting the mockers on a possible deal - yet revealing the name of the proposed buyers could?
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,006
    Addickted said:

    So making possible future buyers aware that there may be a cash flow problem at the Club as 'no wages have been paid' that were due today can't be seen as putting the mockers on a possible deal - yet revealing the name of the proposed buyers could?

    I agree with you on this.
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    edited November 2013
    This is not meant to be a dig at you CE.

    I just find it amazing that so many people appeared to be ITK as to the future backers of the Club but kept it quiet in case it 'ruined the deal', yet something more likely to put the buyers off is posted before the banks even opened today.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    edited November 2013
    Addickted said:

    I think that's the point incorruptible is making.

    Why not post it on Tuesday that you knew it was Josh Harris. I mean nobody waited until next Monday to mention about the non story of the wages.

    Didn't and don't know now it's Josh Harris. I'd heard the name as had many others but that's not the same thing. For the same reason, media outlets that had the name wouldn't use it. Perhaps the Mail has been able to verify it. Perhaps they've been played, like the SLP appear to have been last week.

    It's not a non-issue with the wages - it was substantiated and it very probably relates to the takeover. No way will it be a clerical error.
  • 000__Jaaaaay__000
    000__Jaaaaay__000 Posts: 2,342
    I met josh harris the other day. He told me he was interested in buying a team south of the river themes who wear red. Couldnt tell anyone about it but now its all out its fine to tell
  • incorruptible addick
    incorruptible addick Posts: 2,125
    edited November 2013
    Airman Brown said:


    Didn't and don't know now it's Josh Harris.

    Oh for goodness sake, stop being so disinegenuous, AB.

    You know full well it is Harris. And if you did not trust your sources when you were apparently told last weekend, they were confirmed today when Apollo Global/Harris made no attempt to deny the Daily Mail story.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    incorruptible addick said:

    Airman Brown said:


    Didn't and don't know now it's Josh Harris.

    Oh for goodness sake, stop being so disinegenuous, AB.

    You know full well it is Harris. And if you did not trust your sources when you were told last weekend, they were confirmed today when Apollo Global/Harris made no attempt to deny their interest.
    I think I'm probably better placed than you to comment on what I know - even if nothing else!
  • RalphMilnesgut
    RalphMilnesgut Posts: 1,751
    This is or was a rumour thread so saying 'I did not know for sure' is no defence
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