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CP's comments on the BBC

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25780833

The analysis panel on the left of the article does not make for good reading?
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  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,161
    Time now for RD to crack on and sort this out. It's gone on too long.
  • That doesn't match what's happened at standard though

    Standard are top of their league have they done that by only playing their youth
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,599
    Dangerous game conducting your discussions through the media.
  • Viewfinder
    Viewfinder Posts: 4,915
    The Belgian commentator's analysis doesn't exactly fill me with hope.
  • Saga Lout
    Saga Lout Posts: 6,845
    Hmm - I don't like the tone of that article - it seems the takeover has done nothing to settle things down.
  • dickplumb
    dickplumb Posts: 4,835
    I think Powell and his staff will be gone by the end of the season. It seems the Belgian knows what he wants and I can't see Powell as part of the equation.
  • Steve Dowman
    Steve Dowman Posts: 2,406
    Kap10 said:

    Dangerous game conducting your discussions through the media.

    Agree kap, he has to learn not to be seen to undermine owners, he does sail close to the wind. No reason to do this at present, things have been looking up on and off the pitch recently and he needs to show more positivity. Owners don't need much of an excuse to clear the decks.
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,085
    80% Powell will leave 20% Powell will stay
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    I know people are going to shoot me down, but over the past 3 years i have seen so much dross football, so much of no chances,no shots on goal, opposing goalie not having to make a save,so much of me leaving the valley thinking 'i 'm not doing this again', dreadful hoofball (and that happened even during our promotion year too), that part of me thinks, maybe it is time for a good shake-up of the football club in lots of ways - maybe its time to go the way of the likes of Watford of last year - surely it has to be better than the shite i have had to watch over the past few years.
    When you think about it, the likes of Brian Clough would have wheeled and dealed if they had no money to spend, whereas we seem to have stuck with the same players for the past 3 seasons - maybe its time for us not to be so parochial, and look outside for inspiration and to move forward.
    Maybe that time is now.
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,406
    Don't look good for the current coaching regime does it?

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  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,758

    Kap10 said:

    Dangerous game conducting your discussions through the media.

    Agree kap, he has to learn not to be seen to undermine owners, he does sail close to the wind.
    Long way from the truth, that. I think his restraint has been extraordinary.
  • Steve Dowman
    Steve Dowman Posts: 2,406
    think he undermined the last owners and has to be very careful with the new ones too. sometimes you need to put your head down and get on with it, like curbs in the early years, he used to say we have no funds, we have to work with that, not bemoan the lack of financials. The new guy sounds a bit more ruthless tbh, the old ones couldn't afford to change manager.
  • AddickFC81
    AddickFC81 Posts: 4,053
    Kap10 said:

    Dangerous game conducting your discussions through the media.

    What can anyone do if they are asked the questions though?
  • I know people are going to shoot me down, but over the past 3 years i have seen so much dross football, so much of no chances,no shots on goal, opposing goalie not having to make a save,so much of me leaving the valley thinking 'i 'm not doing this again', dreadful hoofball (and that happened even during our promotion year too), that part of me thinks, maybe it is time for a good shake-up of the football club in lots of ways - maybe its time to go the way of the likes of Watford of last year - surely it has to be better than the shite i have had to watch over the past few years.
    When you think about it, the likes of Brian Clough would have wheeled and dealed if they had no money to spend, whereas we seem to have stuck with the same players for the past 3 seasons - maybe its time for us not to be so parochial, and look outside for inspiration and to move forward.
    Maybe that time is now.

    A few people said the same about Curb's last couple of years and that turned out okay so you might just be right, also to say what Brian Clough (one of the greatest manager's of all time) would have done is quite laughable as we all know Powell and let's be honest any other manager we get in would get in going to be near the likes of Brian Clough.

  • Very worrying times indeed for those of us who respect the gaffer.
  • EastTerrace
    EastTerrace Posts: 3,963
    edited January 2014
    Well that's worrying, more uncertainty ahead.

    Not Powell's biggest fan football-wise for the reasons President says but they way he keeps the squad morale up in unbelievable.

    To not support him now I think would be bad especially in our perilous position and although kind of understanding a wholesale change could be beneficial, I don't think we are that stage yet.

    CP deserves a proper chance.
  • JiMMy 85
    JiMMy 85 Posts: 10,202
    I read the thread, and figured the story must be pretty moody. But it's not at all. I was relieved to read it and find Powell being courteous as always. I don't think he's said anything out of turn, and certainly not contradictory of RD.
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,599
    edited January 2014
    Dangerous game conducting your discussions through the media.

    Kap10 said:

    Dangerous game conducting your discussions through the media.

    What can anyone do if they are asked the questions though?
    There is an art in saying lots that says nothing. Its nice that CP is open and honest but I don't think now is the time for washing the dirty linen in public, for his sake. Just a personal opinion.
  • Viewfinder
    Viewfinder Posts: 4,915

    Very worrying times indeed for those of us who respect the gaffer.

    Powell does sound rather isolated, as though he's not quite in the loop. We don't know whether he's being frozen out, or if it just takes time for the new regime to gear up. What worries me - indicated by the Belgian commentator's analysis in the side panel - is that Duchatelet may be content to loan us fringe players from his other clubs, when clearly we need more experienced and effective players.

  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,161

    I know people are going to shoot me down, but over the past 3 years i have seen so much dross football, so much of no chances,no shots on goal, opposing goalie not having to make a save,so much of me leaving the valley thinking 'i 'm not doing this again', dreadful hoofball (and that happened even during our promotion year too), that part of me thinks, maybe it is time for a good shake-up of the football club in lots of ways - maybe its time to go the way of the likes of Watford of last year - surely it has to be better than the shite i have had to watch over the past few years.
    When you think about it, the likes of Brian Clough would have wheeled and dealed if they had no money to spend, whereas we seem to have stuck with the same players for the past 3 seasons - maybe its time for us not to be so parochial, and look outside for inspiration and to move forward.
    Maybe that time is now.

    He can't wheel and deal if he's not allowed to.

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  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,966
    edited January 2014

    What worries me - indicated by the Belgian commentator's analysis in the side panel - is that Duchatelet may be content to loan us fringe players from his other clubs, when clearly we need more experienced and effective players.

    No doubt the thing Duchatelet will want most is to retain our Championship status.
    It will seem a massive Own Goal should we be relegated.

    It's obvious to all and sundry that the squad is threadbare - no doubt sufficient reinforcements will happen (loan window re-opens in February), in a patch and mend effort to ensure the club (his investment) remains in the Championship this season.






  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Time for good advice from Richard Murray.
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,599
    seth plum said:

    Time for good advice from Richard Murray.

    To both sides, assuming Murray is still a Powell fan.

  • meldrew66
    meldrew66 Posts: 2,566
    The good news for the fans is Roland's wish to make money out of Charlton. He can only achieve that if we are successful on the pitch. That's probably a safer bet than a rich fan buying the club in terms of possible improvement and, hopefully promotion. He won't make a penny if we stand still.
  • Ashaddick
    Ashaddick Posts: 158
    I fear we are at a crossroads, it's harsh and hard but one of the paths may just be right for the club in the end. ?
  • Kap10 said:

    Dangerous game conducting your discussions through the media.

    Agree kap, he has to learn not to be seen to undermine owners, he does sail close to the wind.
    Long way from the truth, that. I think his restraint has been extraordinary.
    A man who knows
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,599

    Kap10 said:

    Dangerous game conducting your discussions through the media.

    Agree kap, he has to learn not to be seen to undermine owners, he does sail close to the wind.
    Long way from the truth, that. I think his restraint has been extraordinary.
    With the old guard yes, but are you suggesting he has bee restrained with the new guard?

  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,691
    I was surprised with Roland this and Roland that. I don't think I've ever read or heard an article where a manager doesn't call the head honcho either Mr whatever or the Chairman.

    That aside, from the outside Mr Duchalat seems to be doing an okay job at Leige. If he gets us top of the league playing decent football I'll be happy. If he does it using youth then even better.

    I really don't think he has paid 20m for us to see us relegated. I also don't agree that players unable to get into Leige team will come to us. There is more money involved in the English game so there is no reason it won't be the other way round. Interesting too that CP seems to say that they is more than just Katrin over from Belgium at the Club. Who and what positions?
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,375
    Don't really see how this brings on a new 'tone' to the situation for us to worry any more or less than before. Nothing has been said that we didn't already know.

    As for the Belgian expert analysis on that page, I'm pretty sure that was lifted from an interview that was done on the day of the takeover. Again, nothing new has come to light that should make us worry anymore than before.

    The owner has been here two weeks today. I know we all want the situation sorted, but give the hot crossed bun geezer an ounce of time for christ sake!
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,200
    Good points Tom.