Spanners worried about cafc ground share ;-)
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I knew that someone would pick up on that eventually :-)Hastingsaddick said:
Blue and red = Palace, that would go down well.TellyTubby said:The seats will be Blue & Red alternately to accommodate the identity of both clubs.
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The worry for you is if land in London is continually increasing, will Greenwich council seek a similar deal? Not sure whether you own the freehold or not though. Looks like we may be getting pushed out.0
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Anyone find this incredibly ironic considering the lansdowne mews = we're leaving the valley debacle.Henry Irving said:Seems a big leap from selling some land to ground sharing with us.
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The story behind it is, we have long leases on several parcels of land surrounding the Den. It appears that for a few years now the club have been engaging with the council to discuss us developing the land so we can generate more income to make us more sustainable.kentaddick said:
Anyone find this incredibly ironic considering the lansdowne mews = we're leaving the valley debacle.Henry Irving said:Seems a big leap from selling some land to ground sharing with us.
In the meantime, since 2004, Renewal Group, have been buying plots of land elsewhere on the site through other subsidiaries and have since submitted a planning application. For this to succeed they needed other areas of land which Lewisham produced CPO's for so the overall scheme can be implemented.
It appears Renewal may also want to use the land that we currently lease from Lewisham and last week Lewisham have agreed to sell this land to Renewal, so they are our new landlords, whilst our plans for the land have been discarded.
Interestingly, David Sullivan, an ex-Labour Lewisham council leader is the head of the Renewal New company buying the land, from a Labour run council without others seemingly being able to bid on the land.
The reason Charlton fans should be worried is if we go, you may find Millwall FC pitching up in Kent!!0 -
Can I be the first to recommend Gillingham. Similar size support when the bandwagon isn't running and similar supporter profile.Sparrows Lane Lion said:The worry for you is if land in London is continually increasing, will Greenwich council seek a similar deal? Not sure whether you own the freehold or not though. Looks like we may be getting pushed out.
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Then palace could come in on it too, leading to an amalgamation and one big 'super 'club!TellyTubby said:
I knew that someone would pick up on that eventually :-)Hastingsaddick said:
Blue and red = Palace, that would go down well.TellyTubby said:The seats will be Blue & Red alternately to accommodate the identity of both clubs.
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Maybe Millwall could move back to the other side of the river and share with their good friends at West Ham at their brand spanking new stadium? I'm sure all 8,000 Den supporters could fit in by the corner flag.0
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Here you go... (scroll to the bottom of the page)
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?s=346f8b6be30a5e9d07e0610ca287e69f&t=1688692&page=5
The 2nd picture is the best. Notice the three little scamps wandering around with brand new flags because the feckers have fluked it to Wembley again and their dads used to know Harry the Dog so they are Spanners for a day...0 -
Isle Of Dogs plenty of room --------------------go home to East London where you belong.3
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cant believe Brentfords gound and the Spanners ground will look that good0
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Many miles have I travelled
many games have I seen
Following South East London Allstars
My favourite team
No-one likes us, likes us, likes us
And that's the way we like it, we like it we like it
Whooooaaaoooaaaoo
We would be unstoppable7 -
Ground share with the Orient?
Book a pitch on Blackheath?
Excecise yard at Brixton so you can all go?
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Millwall will always attract the nutters and Charlton the decent fans. Kent's full of both.Sparrows Lane Lion said:
The story behind it is, we have long leases on several parcels of land surrounding the Den. It appears that for a few years now the club have been engaging with the council to discuss us developing the land so we can generate more income to make us more sustainable.kentaddick said:
Anyone find this incredibly ironic considering the lansdowne mews = we're leaving the valley debacle.Henry Irving said:Seems a big leap from selling some land to ground sharing with us.
In the meantime, since 2004, Renewal Group, have been buying plots of land elsewhere on the site through other subsidiaries and have since submitted a planning application. For this to succeed they needed other areas of land which Lewisham produced CPO's for so the overall scheme can be implemented.
It appears Renewal may also want to use the land that we currently lease from Lewisham and last week Lewisham have agreed to sell this land to Renewal, so they are our new landlords, whilst our plans for the land have been discarded.
Interestingly, David Sullivan, an ex-Labour Lewisham council leader is the head of the Renewal New company buying the land, from a Labour run council without others seemingly being able to bid on the land.
The reason Charlton fans should be worried is if we go, you may find Millwall FC pitching up in Kent!!
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Since I was young...Uboat said:Many miles have I travelled
many games have I seen
Following South East London Allstars
My favourite team
No-one likes us, likes us, likes us
And that's the way we like it, we like it we like it
Whooooaaaoooaaaoo
We would be unstoppable0 -
Let them share with west ham they can fight it out amongst themselves0
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Send the smelly ba$****s back to Scotland.0
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oii mate thats a bit harsh the poor old Jocks have enough shit up there dealing with that smarmy Salmon twat.
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Surely they could fit them all in at Welling or Dulwich Hamlet1
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Millwall chairman, John Berylson: “If these land sales go through, they will put the long-term future of the Club at risk because it will mean non-football assets that we hold in our leases will be surrendered to a property developer. We have the long-term interests of the Club and the community in mind. Renewal does not. Lewisham Council must be urged to think again.”
Here's an article about the situation:
http://thequaypoint.co.uk/2014/02/04/lions-angered-by-lewishams-renewal-plans-around-the-den/0 -
cant understand why we a debateing Millwall on Charlton life or should we change it to Charlton and Millwall life !!!0
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I wasn't aware that all conversation on a football forum has to be exclusively about one team?? Change the d to an m at the beginning of your username and we may have a more appropriate name.doronron said:cant understand why we a debateing Millwall on Charlton life or should we change it to Charlton and Millwall life !!!
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no need for that.
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What's ironic about all this is that the original plans for that area by Surrey Canal Road and the incinerator and dump was to redevelop it and make it a new residential quarter with sport being one of the drivers. Sullivan was responsible for Lewisham council sponsoring Millwall ages ago and is allegedly a supporter, even though he's originally from up north.
I'm surprised that there hasn't been more of a fuss made of this, TBH. Mind you, in my view local govt round here would be more honest if we just voted for property developers and cut out the middle man.2 -
Renewal in tandem with the Surrey Canal Sports Foundation.rananegra said:What's ironic about all this is that the original plans for that area by Surrey Canal Road and the incinerator and dump was to redevelop it and make it a new residential quarter with sport being one of the drivers. Sullivan was responsible for Lewisham council sponsoring Millwall ages ago and is allegedly a supporter, even though he's originally from up north.
I'm surprised that there hasn't been more of a fuss made of this, TBH. Mind you, in my view local govt round here would be more honest if we just voted for property developers and cut out the middle man.
You won't be surprised to learn that directors from Renewal are also directors for the Sports Foundation.
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Sparrows I and a lot of the old boys would welcome you to the New Valley if we have to have one. I for one would go to Millwall home games when we are away. The only problem I have is it bad enough losing to our little cousin at home once a season but twice?Sparrows Lane Lion said:
Renewal in tandem with the Surrey Canal Sports Foundation.rananegra said:What's ironic about all this is that the original plans for that area by Surrey Canal Road and the incinerator and dump was to redevelop it and make it a new residential quarter with sport being one of the drivers. Sullivan was responsible for Lewisham council sponsoring Millwall ages ago and is allegedly a supporter, even though he's originally from up north.
I'm surprised that there hasn't been more of a fuss made of this, TBH. Mind you, in my view local govt round here would be more honest if we just voted for property developers and cut out the middle man.
You won't be surprised to learn that directors from Renewal are also directors for the Sports Foundation.0 -
London Borough of Lewisham and Royal Borough of Greenwich collusion ? Nice bit of land on the peninsula so I'm told.0
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No, as I wasn't one of the people leaping to the conclusion eitherkentaddick said:
Anyone find this incredibly ironic considering the lansdowne mews = we're leaving the valley debacle.Henry Irving said:Seems a big leap from selling some land to ground sharing with us.
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The regeneration / gentrification of SE London and how this might affect both Charlton and Millwall should not go unnoticed by supporters of either club. It may be sensible for the CAS Trust to seek a dialogue with the Lions Trust, so that, mutually, we may safeguard our common interests.1
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and you should drop the first five letters of your name ,ay,DICKsseaddick said:
I wasn't aware that all conversation on a football forum has to be exclusively about one team?? Change the d to an m at the beginning of your username and we may have a more appropriate name.doronron said:cant understand why we a debateing Millwall on Charlton life or should we change it to Charlton and Millwall life !!!
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Interesting idea ...probably impractical and, to be honest, not required ...but who knows.Anna_Kissed said:The regeneration / gentrification of SE London and how this might affect both Charlton and Millwall should not go unnoticed by supporters of either club. It may be sensible for the CAS Trust to seek a dialogue with the Lions Trust, so that, mutually, we may safeguard our common interests.
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