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floydroadfaithfull
floydroadfaithfull Posts: 4,778
in General Charlton
Any news on hamer being back as I'm just a little worried by thuram!
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  • Brendan_O_Connell
    Brendan_O_Connell Posts: 8,938
    floydroadfaithfull said:

    Any news on hamer being back as I'm just a little worried by thuram!

    A little worried??
  • Hartleypete
    Hartleypete Posts: 4,729
    I was told last Saturday that he could be back this week, but whether they will risk him who knows.
  • floydroadfaithfull
    floydroadfaithfull Posts: 4,778
    Was being kind to the young fella
    He probally didn't want to come to England?
    And brave n tough though only keeper to wear a short sleve shirt sat!
  • IAgree
    IAgree Posts: 1,846
    Let me get this straight, your worried that Hamer isn't in goal??!! That's is a new one!
  • BigAndyCAFC
    BigAndyCAFC Posts: 485
    Wendies should use plenty of crosses on Saturday - could be a nervous afternoon. Hamer would be better without a doubt.
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,355
    edited February 2014
    What is people problem with Thuram as far as I can see he looks decent
  • IAgree
    IAgree Posts: 1,846
    I must admit to finding the punching, rather than catching, a bit nerve racking. As I understand that is prevalent amongst European keepers?
  • Dannoo_86
    Dannoo_86 Posts: 740
    edited February 2014
    Come on did anyone see Thuram's kicking Saturday it was awful. People were laughing at him every time there was a goal kick around me by half time. He seems okay at shot stopping but his kicking WOW and he doesn't look to comfortable catching a ball which is quite important for a GK IMO.
  • ads
    ads Posts: 3,230
    paulie8290 said:

    What is people problem with Thuram as far as I can see he loos decent

    Enough of his toilet habits, is he a shotstopper?
  • Brendan_O_Connell
    Brendan_O_Connell Posts: 8,938
    paulie8290 said:

    What is people problem with Thuram as far as I can see he loos decent

    If you'd been at Wigan Paulie, you'd be a understand my concerns.

    He brought a new meaning to the term "Flappy Bird"

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  • Madz
    Madz Posts: 1,004
    edited February 2014
    I think if Ben Roberts can convert him to catch a ball rather than punch it he could be useful.... but me thinks he prefers the punch and won't change. Thuram that is not Hamer.

    Would much prefer Hamer back at the moment.
  • Dizzle
    Dizzle Posts: 5,192
    Thuram did about 2 dodgy kicks that I can remember. Alnick's wasnt much better. One of our best ever keepers (DEANO) was even worse.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,357
    IAgree said:

    I must admit to finding the punching, rather than catching, a bit nerve racking. As I understand that is prevalent amongst European keepers?

    England is also in Europe...just saying. Seriously though, I cant' stand this generlisation that all European keepers punch. Two of the best European keepers of the last 20 years have been Buffon and Cech and they catch most things, especially Buffon and that's why he's the best.
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,708
    Always worry when i see a keeper in Britain playing in short sleeved shirts.
  • Rizzo
    Rizzo Posts: 6,467
    Dizzle said:

    Thuram did about 2 dodgy kicks that I can remember. Alnick's wasnt much better. One of our best ever keepers (DEANO) was even worse.

    This. Thuram actually managed to keep the ball in play most of the time, unlike Hamer who seems to want to kick to the opposition dugout every single time.

    Am a little concerned over the punching though. Would prefer him to catch.

  • DRF
    DRF Posts: 2,455
    Does Thuram punch more than Hamer?
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,355
    IAgree said:

    I must admit to finding the punching, rather than catching, a bit nerve racking. As I understand that is prevalent amongst European keepers?

    Most european keepers punch and if you have a strong punch sometimes its better than risking catching and missing,
    and from what I have seen his punching looks strong
  • falconwood_1
    falconwood_1 Posts: 7,369
    Brendan_O_Connell said:

    paulie8290 said:

    What is people problem with Thuram as far as I can see he loos decent

    If you'd been at Wigan Paulie, you'd be a understand my concerns.

    He brought a new meaning to the term "Flappy Bird"

    But 'Flappy Bird' has been cancelled......
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,373
    Thuram looks good if he doesn't have any crosses to deal with , we were bombarded at Wigan and he's lucky that from his weak punches that went no distance there was no one to punish him
    i'm sure he nearly punched one into his own net when trying to block a shot from an angle at his near post
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,373
    go on to wigans laticsplayer and they have slightly different highlights from ours and you'll see a couple of weak punches(although the commentator said one of em was good) but the other punch was horrendous

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  • Starinnaddick
    Starinnaddick Posts: 4,396
    Cure his punching and he will be a good keeper. He came to collect the ball well and made two excellent one on one saves.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,276
    A couple of my mates were at Wigan and they both said he was hopeless. Must admit that he didn't look anywhere near as bad v Birmingham as i was expecting.
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,900
    edited February 2014
    I've seen all three matches Thuram has played in and the marks I allocarted in the players marks threads afterwards were Boro 5.5, Wigan 3 and Birmingham 5. Now I'm not a hard marker but fair and rarely mark lower than 4 but he was truly awful at Wigan as @oohaahmortimer has already highlighted with his punching and reluctance to dominate his box when the shells were coming in late in the game. Against Birmingham he was little tested and made a couple of decent one on one stops which he also did at Boro and for which I commended him.

    However it is not all about his lack of catching / poor punching / poor kicking, it is as much about the bond he has with and confidence he instills in his other defenders and this is sadly lacking at present IMO. As I have said previously I really do hope he comes good for all our sakes if Hamer's injury keeps recurring.
  • Greenie
    Greenie Posts: 9,174
    Dannoo_86 said:

    Come on did anyone see Thuram's kicking Saturday it was awful. People were laughing at him every time there was a goal kick around me by half time. He seems okay at shot stopping but his kicking WOW and he doesn't look to comfortable catching a ball which is quite important for a GK IMO.

    Really? U do t know what match you were at ? His kicking was good a couple went astray but his kicking was better than Hamers and Deanos!
  • StewieGriffinSE7
    StewieGriffinSE7 Posts: 489
    I want to see Hamer back between the sticks when he's fit. Hopefully like Thuram he'll be instructed to play it out from the back and refrain from the old 'hoof' to Yann tactics. The lad has great potential and I want see him full fill it over the next few seasons
  • Charlton_Charlie
    Charlton_Charlie Posts: 1,430
    Am in Belgium at the moment...liege cab driver I met on tues was telling me how lucky we are to have Thuram....(I won't post what he said about Roland...it wasn't too complimentary....)....
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,355
    Charlton Charlie said:

    Am in Belgium at the moment...liege cab driver I met on tues was telling me how lucky we are to have Thuram....(I won't post what he said about Roland...it wasn't too complimentary....)....

    You cant say something like that and not tell us
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,373
    he saves too many with his legs as well , the one on one i recall in the first half against brum he came out with his legs, i'd rather he used his hands and gathered the ball

    i know sometimes he has to use his legs but it's too much with Thuram
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,276
    Dannoo_86 said:

    Come on did anyone see Thuram's kicking Saturday it was awful. People were laughing at him every time there was a goal kick around me by half time. He seems okay at shot stopping but his kicking WOW and he doesn't look to comfortable catching a ball which is quite important for a GK IMO.



    In piss poor weather conditions, and kicking a moving ball off a muddy bog with barely a blade of grass in sight, i wouldn't say his kicking was that bad. I've seen a lot worse
  • charlton_carl
    charlton_carl Posts: 926
    Hamer out for few weeks and everyone forgets how poor he was before Alnwick came in.

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