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Addicks confirm £7.4m operating loss

WSS
WSS Posts: 25,099
edited April 2014 in General Charlton
http://www.votvonline.com/

"The total staff costs of £12.0m represented 101 per cent of turnover, as opposed to 104 per cent the previous year."
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  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,910
    Sack the board!!
  • tangoflash
    tangoflash Posts: 10,790
    I blame Powell for his wild spending spree over the summer..................
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,402
    "Operating expenses were up £3.0m to £17.3m, reflecting the increase in player wages resulting from promotion. The total staff costs of £12.0m represented 101 per cent of turnover, as opposed to 104 per cent the previous year."

    Ouch!
  • Wonder how many millions were out of court payouts
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,627
    Not good at all...way more than certain people on here estimated...
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,243
    edited April 2014
    This is all pre-Roland though isn't it?
  • Valiantphil
    Valiantphil Posts: 6,423
    Whatever we think of Roland, Madonna was spot on !

    "because the man with the cold, hard cash, is always Mr Right"
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,383
    There must have been some mega promotion clauses in place.
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,976
    Ouch
  • red_murph
    red_murph Posts: 2,460
    Wowzers. Why would anyone buy a football club?!

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  • iainambler
    iainambler Posts: 966
    Not being an expert in the requisite areas, how does that leave us in the light of Financial Fair Play?
    If Roland wants to break even next year, that means savings of c. £7.5m. Where is that going to come from? We have to get the pitch replaced in the close season and that will cost a fair bit....
  • Davo55
    Davo55 Posts: 7,854
    That £570k doesn't seem enough for Yann and Dale combined, even taking into account their contractual positions. Would that be the full amounts payable, or could it be what was actually received up front, with more to follow in instalments? Any football accountants on here know what needs to be put in the accounts?
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,224

    This is all pre-Roland though isn't it?

    Yes. (Apart from the advance disclosure of transactions in the current financial year for the player transfers. I'm not really sure why those got a mention they are hardly material.)
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729

    Not being an expert in the requisite areas, how does that leave us in the light of Financial Fair Play?
    If Roland wants to break even next year, that means savings of c. £7.5m. Where is that going to come from? We have to get the pitch replaced in the close season and that will cost a fair bit....

    operational losses I'm assuming includes financing the academy and stadium etc, neither of which come under financial fairplay, which is staff wages and transfer fees, staff wages being only slightly more than the money the club makes and transfer fees not really existant. This means you can spend £100 million on a new hovering training facility and yet still pass financial fair play.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,402

    Wonder how many millions were out of court payouts

    They'll be in the next set of accounts :- )
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,976
    So all those people were sacked and only 3 percent was saved ?
  • Absurdistan
    Absurdistan Posts: 8,024
    How to make a small fortune from owning a football club.















    Start with a big one.
  • Even more reason to get Poyet on a contract to at least obtain some half decent money for him but I'm sure the club are more than aware of this need.

    Does anyone know about the loan repayments to former directors if we get back to the Prem? Are they still contingent liabilities or were they 'settled' as part of RD's takeover? Also, is there any money still owed to TJ/MS/KC?
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,363
    We got £570,000 for the sales of Yann and Dale combined? Am I reading that wrong because it can't be that we shipped off those two for a maximum of < £300,000 each. Because that would be insane.
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,953

    We got £570,000 for the sales of Yann and Dale combined? Am I reading that wrong because it can't be that we shipped off those two for a maximum of < £300,000 each. Because that would be insane.

    I would think, that they were initial payments with more to follow.

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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,402
    "However, by June 2013 the club owed parent company Baton 2010 Limited £18.4m - an increase of more than £9m on a year earlier. Against this bank loans and overdrafts reduced from £6.4m in 2012 to £4.8m in 2013."

    So a £9m increase in the debt to the holding company in one year.
  • 1m a month magic man slater

    Ill put it in but i want it back with interest
  • somerton
    somerton Posts: 237
    These figures are for the 2012/2013 season not the current one. They are figures before we where bought, and player wages will include a bonus for promotion. TSo these are costs for are first season in the championship. But they do look bad and can see why previous lot ran out of money.
  • MattD
    MattD Posts: 1,530
    Whats the number for the company so I can have a look myself?
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,788

    We got £570,000 for the sales of Yann and Dale combined? Am I reading that wrong because it can't be that we shipped off those two for a maximum of < £300,000 each. Because that would be insane.

    I would think, that they were initial payments with more to follow.
    I'm changing the article because having thought about it this will be Shelvey transfer money. It says elsewhere the report was signed off on January 17th, even though it's only been lodged in the last week. Apologies for the excitement!
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  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,862
    when are these figures up to? If it's 2012/13 season or even to 31st December 2013 then how can they include fees received in January 2014?
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  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,907
    All this confuses me. So are the club still in debt since the takeover or has RD paid it off as part of the purchase fee?
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,788
    edited April 2014
    One thing to add is that the club revalued its fixed assets and increased their value in the accounts by £5m which offset the loss, but I will leave the accountants to comment on that.