what happened in our end today at Brighton?
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If fans want to stand and fight with their fellow supporters why shouldn't they? It's a free country so if you do don't like it why don't you go and watch bowls instead!
Nobody tells me what to do!
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British jobs for British people!!4
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If you don't like your seat and there are 100 other seats then move. If you want to stand but your blocking peoples views then move. However refusing to move out of principle and waving the rule book around is pathetic and childish. That goes for both sides.ME14addick said:Why should someone who has purchased a SEAT, have to move to accommodate someone who wants to stand?
Everyone should be sitting down as that is the current regulation. If you are asked to sit down by someone whose view you are blocking then you should either move or sit down.
That only applies to games where there is an opportunity to move, obviously.5 -
Think you'll find that the CC have to sell tickets for away games block by block so would not be able to offer seats in a specific area .killerandflash said:Maybe the ticket office needs to offer a choice of front or back when selling allocated away seating?
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If that's the case, I'm going to get a season ticket at Chelsea, sit in their stand, watch lovely football... And still want Charlton to win... Great!newyorkaddick said:
Why does the location of my seat determine which team I want to win?OsamaBenHamer said:
In essence making you a fan of every team except for Charltonnewyorkaddick said:Just sit in the home end - you get a better view and a nicer atmosphere. I've been doing it for the past several seasons and can't imagine watching from the away end again at one of the better attended matches.
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hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
If fans want to stand and fight with their fellow supporters why shouldn't they? It's a free country so if you do don't like it why don't you go and watch bowls instead!
Nobody tells me what to do!
Sorry, but really, seriously, hope you guys are "joking".OsamaBenHamer said:British jobs for British people!!
If not, go down to Berm-on-sea with the other idiots.
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One a season. Twenty years ago every other week, and I didn't have another opinion then. Have some consideration for other people who support your club is the point. The law says no standing, I am no happier about it than you are, let's campaign together to change it, until then be polite to those that want to sit and watch the game rather than standing up in front of them and claiming that you are a "better" fan because you do.PL54 said:
How many do you get to?Algarveaddick said:
I think this post sums up the problems nicely.OsamaBenHamer said:It's an away game - these things happen. Away fans are expected to stand too, I genuinely feel a bit weird sitting down at away games. I'm more concerned about what happened on the pitch tbh, dreadful performance
I don't expect these things to happen at away games and I don't expect to stand either.5 -
So in an away crowd of c2000 there were 30 pisstt kids that nobody recognised being rowdy and they would have ran a mile if anyone had confronted them.
Numbers and quotes from the previous comments from people who I assume were there.
So why didn't the vast majority, or even a small number of the majority, sort it out?0 -
Yes, frequently but the point I was trying to make is that sitting down is the norm and if you are asked to sit down because you are blocking someone else's view then you should sit down. Not everyone is able to stand and you'll all be unable to stand one day.Greenie Junior said:
Ever driven above 30mph in a 30mph zone?ME14addick said:
Everyone should be sitting down as that is the current regulation.0 -
Your name says it all. Lighten up a bit mate.Miserableoldgit said:hoof_it_up_to_benty said:If fans want to stand and fight with their fellow supporters why shouldn't they? It's a free country so if you do don't like it why don't you go and watch bowls instead!
Nobody tells me what to do!
Sorry, but really, seriously, hope you guys are "joking".OsamaBenHamer said:British jobs for British people!!
If not, go down to Berm-on-sea with the other idiots.2 -
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Because people don't want to get involved? or are worried about guilt by association?PL54 said:So in an away crowd of c2000 there were 30 pisstt kids that nobody recognised being rowdy and they would have ran a mile if anyone had confronted them.
Numbers and quotes from the previous comments from people who I assume were there.
So why didn't the vast majority, or even a small number of the majority, sort it out?
TBF I didn't even SEE what was going on so I don't know how 'rowdy' they were being. What I DO know is if you get involved it can end up being you that gets into trouble. The only time I've ever been ejected was during the Selhurst years when after a goal surge, the OB threw out random people for 'pushing'. Earlier in the day we were walking up from the front just behind what I assume were the pi55ed up boys who were giving it some Red Army and my son was getting into the spirit and joining in, but as soon as they started on 'does your boyfriend' I told him to let them walk on and lo and behold within 50 yards they were pulled away by two uniforms. I have no doubt that if my son had been still 5 yards behind them he would have been hauled off just for wearing the shirt. I am not an advocate of standing idly by if things are amiss but we all know that completely different rules apply to football fans3 -
When Brighton scored the 3rd goal the bloke sitting next to me turned around and said to me " Ere mate do you want a fight!" I told him to step outside to my office. I then causally like a causal walked outside and to my dismay I saw a snail trail of prawns heading towards the exit. It was mr "I want a fight" having it on his toes gripping a prawn sandwich. Must of been a west stand season ticket holder. Bless him3
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Can we flag posts for being really weird?9
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Only if we can flag profile pictures as being weirder?ThreadKiller said:Can we flag posts for being really weird?
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Why don't you make the most of all your pent up anger and frustration and (try and) join the Army? Your undoubted combative attributes will then be channelled correctly and to your benefit.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:If fans want to stand and fight with their fellow supporters why shouldn't they? It's a free country so if you do don't like it why don't you go and watch bowls instead!
Nobody tells me what to do!
Oh, wait a minute! You don't like being told what to do! Scrap that idea then!
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i think hoof_it_up_to_benty was being very sarcastic0
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I'm cafcfan and I flag who I want, I flag who I want. (You can't see me but I'm standing up at the keyboard while I sing that and I can tell you the atmosphere here is way better because of it. Suddenly I feel inspired to perform better.)MSE7 said:
Only if we can flag profile pictures as being weirder?ThreadKiller said:Can we flag posts for being really weird?
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We've had some really cringe worthy threads before, but this is up there6
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I've got everyone in the office standing up at their desks in order to improve the atmosphere and it's most definitely working. One lad just burst out with "build a bonfire" naming two other rival financial consultancy firms and everyone lost it, the HR intern headbutted one of the secretaries and I'd say productivity is up ten fold.cafcfan said:
I'm cafcfan and I flag who I want, I flag who I want. (You can't see me but I'm standing up at the keyboard while I sing that and I can tell you the atmosphere here is way better because of it. Suddenly I feel inspired to perform better.)MSE7 said:
Only if we can flag profile pictures as being weirder?ThreadKiller said:Can we flag posts for being really weird?
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Praying this is true.JollyRobin said:
I've got everyone in the office standing up at their desks in order to improve the atmosphere and it's most definitely working. One lad just burst out with "build a bonfire" naming two other rival financial consultancy firms and everyone lost it, the HR intern headbutted one of the secretaries and I'd say productivity is up ten fold.cafcfan said:
I'm cafcfan and I flag who I want, I flag who I want. (You can't see me but I'm standing up at the keyboard while I sing that and I can tell you the atmosphere here is way better because of it. Suddenly I feel inspired to perform better.)MSE7 said:
Only if we can flag profile pictures as being weirder?ThreadKiller said:Can we flag posts for being really weird?
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Only 75/80%?newyorkaddick said:
You're probably correct (ironically perhaps) that our travelling percentage of scum (TPOS) is lower than most clubs, but the fact that it seems to have gone from nothing to 20% in short order makes the change more visible than if say Millwall's TPOS goes from 75% to 80%.Greenie Junior said:
Agree.The Organiser said:I'm always in the standing camp and wished our whole end would always stand but this is Charlton hence it will rarely happen. I understand how it causes problems the rare times we sell out.
But on Sat we far from sold out and there were two distinctive standing areas on Sat which people seemed happy with. I was far left at the front, standing, with empty seats all around us. If people in the more populated but sitting sections of our support on Sat wanted to stand, I don't know why they didn't just move to where they could do so - it was simple and easy enough.
The underlying problem is we have a ridiculously (more than most clubs at this level) divided support between 'lads' and the rest. This is exaggerated on days like Sat (decent, close awaydays) when I would say it was a 20/80 split, as evidenced by it being rocking under the ground before and at HT by the 20% but morgue like in the ground when they are diluted into the rest of the support.
Palace and millwall away seem to be the only games where the balance gets closer.
On the whole I think the people in the 80% don't have it too bad compared to lots of clubs where the % is the other way round and the lower % of 'normals' have to just get on with it.
This will always be a problem at Charlton as far as I can see.
The divide in support is massive, you have the group that are a bit rowdy like to stand sing and jump around and then you have the people who would rather sit down and can get irritated when surrounded by the rowdy groups.
And I think that's why a lot of charlton fans don't see eye to eye and you hear about bust ups amongst ourselves when we take large away followings, because the divide is so apparent.0 -
The last thing we should do is try to compete with those losers who have dragged their own club down at every opportunity.0
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I can't see a single problem that has been raised on here that couldn't be easily solved by a bit of politeness, understanding and willingness to oblige on both sides.
It's the fact that some fans believe their way is the only that makes this such an issue.0 -
so the mighty wall read this forum----------------is that before they feed their ponies------who really gives a feck what they think
PS Millwall reading is an oxymoron.8 -
I don't care but some of the stuff on this thread is embarrassing regardless if them mugs are reading it or not , although everything they said pissed me off to be fair and the fact they think we're going down and they are staying up .1
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Having witnessed the beaviour of one youth on Saturday, I don't think you could be more wrong. The problem is there was no willingness to oblige and what does the old bloke sitting behind him do? Oblige by watching his back for 90 minutes?DRF said:I can't see a single problem that has been raised on here that couldn't be easily solved by a bit of politeness, understanding and willingness to oblige on both sides.
It's the fact that some fans believe their way is the only that makes this such an issue.
It isn't about singing or supporting you team , but it is about basic respect - and it should be discussed in a forum. If anybody wants to defend poor behaviour/selfishness - well it is very sad.1 -
PL54 said:
TPOS ?newyorkaddick said:
You're probably correct (ironically perhaps) that our travelling percentage of scum (TPOS) is lower than most clubs, but the fact that it seems to have gone from nothing to 20% in short order makes the change more visible than if say Millwall's TPOS goes from 75% to 80%.Greenie Junior said:
Agree.The Organiser said:I'm always in the standing camp and wished our whole end would always stand but this is Charlton hence it will rarely happen. I understand how it causes problems the rare times we sell out.
But on Sat we far from sold out and there were two distinctive standing areas on Sat which people seemed happy with. I was far left at the front, standing, with empty seats all around us. If people in the more populated but sitting sections of our support on Sat wanted to stand, I don't know why they didn't just move to where they could do so - it was simple and easy enough.
The underlying problem is we have a ridiculously (more than most clubs at this level) divided support between 'lads' and the rest. This is exaggerated on days like Sat (decent, close awaydays) when I would say it was a 20/80 split, as evidenced by it being rocking under the ground before and at HT by the 20% but morgue like in the ground when they are diluted into the rest of the support.
Palace and millwall away seem to be the only games where the balance gets closer.
On the whole I think the people in the 80% don't have it too bad compared to lots of clubs where the % is the other way round and the lower % of 'normals' have to just get on with it.
This will always be a problem at Charlton as far as I can see.
The divide in support is massive, you have the group that are a bit rowdy like to stand sing and jump around and then you have the people who would rather sit down and can get irritated when surrounded by the rowdy groups.
And I think that's why a lot of charlton fans don't see eye to eye and you hear about bust ups amongst ourselves when we take large away followings, because the divide is so apparent.0 -
It's my proprietary metric for calculating the proportion of a team's visiting support who might be described as scum. Copyright is pending.PL54 said:PL54 said:
TPOS ?newyorkaddick said:
You're probably correct (ironically perhaps) that our travelling percentage of scum (TPOS) is lower than most clubs, but the fact that it seems to have gone from nothing to 20% in short order makes the change more visible than if say Millwall's TPOS goes from 75% to 80%.Greenie Junior said:
Agree.The Organiser said:I'm always in the standing camp and wished our whole end would always stand but this is Charlton hence it will rarely happen. I understand how it causes problems the rare times we sell out.
But on Sat we far from sold out and there were two distinctive standing areas on Sat which people seemed happy with. I was far left at the front, standing, with empty seats all around us. If people in the more populated but sitting sections of our support on Sat wanted to stand, I don't know why they didn't just move to where they could do so - it was simple and easy enough.
The underlying problem is we have a ridiculously (more than most clubs at this level) divided support between 'lads' and the rest. This is exaggerated on days like Sat (decent, close awaydays) when I would say it was a 20/80 split, as evidenced by it being rocking under the ground before and at HT by the 20% but morgue like in the ground when they are diluted into the rest of the support.
Palace and millwall away seem to be the only games where the balance gets closer.
On the whole I think the people in the 80% don't have it too bad compared to lots of clubs where the % is the other way round and the lower % of 'normals' have to just get on with it.
This will always be a problem at Charlton as far as I can see.
The divide in support is massive, you have the group that are a bit rowdy like to stand sing and jump around and then you have the people who would rather sit down and can get irritated when surrounded by the rowdy groups.
And I think that's why a lot of charlton fans don't see eye to eye and you hear about bust ups amongst ourselves when we take large away followings, because the divide is so apparent.
For example recent observations have been:
Yeovil 2%
Reading 3%
Burnley 16%
Bournemouth 5%
etc. etc.0
