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Would Powell have kept us up?

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  • thai malaysia addick
    thai malaysia addick Posts: 18,504
    We'll never know
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    bobmunro said:

    The Red Robin said:

    With the right backing, yes. It's not a yes or no answer.

    Have you stopped beating your wife?

    lolwut
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,443
    Smashing fella...
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 21,066
    kentaddick said:

    bobmunro said:

    The Red Robin said:

    With the right backing, yes. It's not a yes or no answer.

    Have you stopped beating your wife?

    lolwut
    err try answering that yes or no?
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,394
    Seriously though, Waggy or Green?
  • Nug
    Nug Posts: 4,632
    That Kish was a great player
  • UtopianCharlton
    UtopianCharlton Posts: 19
    edited May 2014
    Statistically (crudely at least), the most probable answer is "yes".
    Looking at the season as defined by the team, and not just the manager, the most striking dichotomy in results appears with and without Jordan Cousins (counting matches where he's been on the pitch for more than 20 minutes - I think; don't have my notes to hand).
    Here, it's P:5 W:0 D:1 L:4 without Cousins (including one match where he appeared as a substitute in the 90th minute).
    With Cousins though, our performances rise considerably, to P:40 W:12 D:11 L:17.
    Subtracting Cousins' appearances under Riga, it's still considerably better, at P:25 W:6 D:8 L:11.

    That's 26 points from 25 games, but it can then be augmented with a statistic (which I don't have to hand, because I haven't had time to work it out properly - prima facie though, the intuition holds) based on an index attached to each team, dependent on how many points they took from their 11 games (5 before and 5 after) playing us, to determine their "difficulty".

    Again, I don't have precision here, but a brief glance at the patterns seems to indicate that the final 15 would have a lower score than the first 30 games - not to take anything away from Riga, who I think has done an incredible job in the circumstances, I hasten to add.

    Thus, based on the reasonable assumption that Powell's end of season kick would set in again, he probably would've kept us up, although perhaps not as early or securely as Riga managed in the end.

    Ultimately, there are just too many qualitative aspects of that question to give anything like a comprehensive answer (would Sordell have done as well for Powell/had he really run out of ideas?), but with the tangible facts, I think it's safe to er on the side of "yes".
  • rananegra
    rananegra Posts: 3,712
    edited May 2014
    rambeau said:

    According to multiverse theory there is an alternate reality in which Chris Powell remained manager and kept us up. There is also one where he remained manager and took us down. There is also one where cafc never existed etc etc. So no need to speculate further, it's all happened somewhere.

    I like this, while I am happy enough to be in this universe after Tuesday, in another one I'm over the moon that Holloway stayed at Palace until March and they've just been relegated by Tony Pulis' Norwich beating them 5-0.

    Mind you, I am very pleased not to be in the universe where TJ & MS held out for £20M and all potential buyers walked away, leaving us bottom by a mile and a 10 point deduction to start next season in L1 and interest in buying us from Ken Bates, Carson Yeung's jailer and Vincent Tan's astrologer.

  • Jayajosh
    Jayajosh Posts: 2,884
    Yes, CP had plenty of games in hand and was allegedly under immense pressure to play the network players who never got a look following Riga's arrival.
  • chester_conrad
    chester_conrad Posts: 738
    Yes. But we would have won the FA Cup if he had gone before Sheff utd.

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  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 11,077
    edited May 2014
    Would he have kept us up? No way.

    Is he a CAFC legend still? Yes of course.

    Am I sick of talking about him STILL?Absolutely! Let it go.
  • tricky
    tricky Posts: 1,291
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  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,339
    bobmunro said:

    The Red Robin said:

    With the right backing, yes. It's not a yes or no answer.

    Have you stopped beating your wife?

    Yep. Moved back down South so had to change my ways.
  • CrayAddick
    CrayAddick Posts: 3,915
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  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,259
    I honestly think we'd have gone down if he'd stayed. I left Bramall Lane wondering if we'd actually win again all season.
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,051
    DamoNorthStand said:

    Would he have kept us up? No way.

    Is he a CAFC legend still? Yes of course.

    Am I sick of talking about him STILL?Absolutely! Let it go.

    Agreed on all points.
  • rikofold
    rikofold Posts: 4,051
    Yes, but what's the point of the question - a vote won't make it be.
  • nth_london_addick
    nth_london_addick Posts: 35,919
    No he wouldn't


    Now stop please stop this madness
  • dizzee
    dizzee Posts: 5,616
    I don't think Chrissy would have kept us up.

    That doesn't mean he is a bad manager.

    I think that the resources he had he did a great job and I don't think many (if any) managers within our reach would have kept us up.

    I think we just got really lucky having Riga, a manager unknown by our fans put in charge.

    He has really performed a miracle and would love him here next season.
  • BrentwoodMark
    BrentwoodMark Posts: 125
    HOOOOOOOFBALL, of course he wouldn't, don't be so silly

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  • Ashaddick
    Ashaddick Posts: 158
    Sadly, I think not
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,287
    I'll be gutted if Riga isnt still here next season, and the fact that I'm even saying that now is a testament to the bloke... Not in a million year s did I think I'd be saying that when he was brought in
  • Danny Addick
    Danny Addick Posts: 3,946
    Yes
  • Billericay Dickie
    Billericay Dickie Posts: 419
    Football is a results based game and Powell wasn't getting the results.
    6 wins from 30 league games says it all. The team was bottom of the league, and we had just been knocked out of the FA Cup by Sheffield United.

    Roland was right to sack Powell. In my opinion had he still been manager we would have been relegated.
  • PL54
    PL54 Posts: 10,757
    No

    27 points in 30 games is where he was at
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,339
    CAFCsayer said:

    I'll be gutted if Riga isnt still here next season, and the fact that I'm even saying that now is a testament to the bloke... Not in a million year s did I think I'd be saying that when he was brought in

    Same here. Well and truly converted.
  • Rob
    Rob Posts: 12,009
    Yes. I'm glad he left though. We needed new blood at the helm.
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 58,100
    edited May 2014
    CAFCsayer said:

    I'll be gutted if Riga isnt still here next season, and the fact that I'm even saying that now is a testament to the bloke... Not in a million year s did I think I'd be saying that when he was brought in

    Same here mate
  • Saga Lout
    Saga Lout Posts: 6,845
    Yes
  • Er_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch
    Er_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch Posts: 1,866
    Probably not.

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