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How we're run: Quick opinion canvass

Just wondering how much the manner of how we're run as a club bothers people, or if off-the-field decisions are largely irrelevant to you if the results are okay?

As with Riga, Peeters (if appointed) may be another unknown come good, but do you feel uncomfortable when things are all a bit Football Manager behind the scenes with dramatic and frequent staff changes regardless of the job people have done? If a load of unknown foreign loans come in to replace a well-established spine of a team, does that matter to you if the results stay passable?

Not trying to stir a big Roland backlash at all here. Just genuinely interested whether fans care about the way things are done and who's part of the club, or if it's really just about what happens on the pitch. Again - not suggesting that latter view is at all wrong, really am just curious.

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  • vff
    vff Posts: 6,914
    Don't think this is a helpful thread at this moment.
  • Davo55
    Davo55 Posts: 7,857
    I care a great deal about how the club does things. However, I don't feel that we are yet in a position to understand or judge that.
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,209
    any advance on "poorly"?
  • danhughes99
    danhughes99 Posts: 490
    so your asking peoples opinions on 'IFs'.
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,057
    Davo55 said:

    I care a great deal about how the club does things. However, I don't feel that we are yet in a position to understand or judge that.

    x2. At the moment, I have doubts, I have concerns, but I also believe this COULD be the beginning of a great new era. Until I know which it will be, I am reserving judgment. Still got my season ticket, will be back through thick and thin - my reservations about any owner will never stop me getting behind the team on the pitch.
  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 8,015
    edited May 2014
    Fumbluff said:

    any advance on "poorly"?

    I'll see your "poorly" and I'll raise you "into the ground".

  • Neil_Heaney
    Neil_Heaney Posts: 373

    so your asking peoples opinions on 'IFs'.

    No - as I'm wondering how people feel about club management in a general sense, not necessarily in relation to our situation right now.

    Is the way we get to places as a club important? Or is it all about where we get to?
  • PL54
    PL54 Posts: 10,757
    We never run
  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 8,015

    so your asking peoples opinions on 'IFs'.

    No - as I'm wondering how people feel about club management in a general sense, not necessarily in relation to our situation right now.

    Is the way we get to places as a club important? Or is it all about where we get to?
    For me, totally about how we do it rather than what happens on the pitch. There are plenty of Man City fans who'll tell you that the club they love died the day they won the league a couple of years ago, I empathise greatly with that point of view.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,822
    I don't think RD has articulated his master plan in such a way that it bears scrutiny. I don't know who his advisers are. I don't know whether the new manager will be a yes man - but his record doesn't jump out at you. Lots of don't knows - which all cause me concern. Great concern.

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  • Huskaris
    Huskaris Posts: 9,897

    Just wondering how much the manner of how we're run as a club bothers people, or if off-the-field decisions are largely irrelevant to you if the results are okay?

    As with Riga, Peeters (if appointed) may be another unknown come good, but do you feel uncomfortable when things are all a bit Football Manager behind the scenes with dramatic and frequent staff changes regardless of the job people have done? If a load of unknown foreign loans come in to replace a well-established spine of a team, does that matter to you if the results stay passable?

    Not trying to stir a big Roland backlash at all here. Just genuinely interested whether fans care about the way things are done and who's part of the club, or if it's really just about what happens on the pitch. Again - not suggesting that latter view is at all wrong, really am just curious.

    I do see what you mean about it all being a bit "Football Managery" at the moment.

    Having said that, as another poster pointed out, this isn't a helpful thread at the moment. I hear Roland gets really depressed when fans of his clubs don't completely love him... :-)
  • I think there needs to be a balance.

    Some players are always traded but you need a core that fans can identify with and can build a relationship with. Players such as JJ who stays around for a few years, gives 100% on the pitch and seems genuinely interested in rapport building in the squad and the stands.

    Without that core you just have a long list of short term options you forget very soon and you lose some of the emotion and passion IMO. You then need to be a club like Man City who win everything to keep fans happy.

    Without success or relationship fans will just feel more disenfranchised and distant from the club which cannot be a positive.
  • iainambler
    iainambler Posts: 967
    Sorry, but I really think it's too early to be complaining about how Roland runs CAFC.

    Can we please give the man a chance to carry out his plans and for some of those who will be active parts of those plans to take their holiday?



  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,057

    I think there needs to be a balance.

    Some players are always traded but you need a core that fans can identify with and can build a relationship with. Players such as JJ who stays around for a few years, gives 100% on the pitch and seems genuinely interested in rapport building in the squad and the stands.

    Without that core you just have a long list of short term options you forget very soon and you lose some of the emotion and passion IMO. You then need to be a club like Man City who win everything to keep fans happy.

    Without success or relationship fans will just feel more disenfranchised and distant from the club which cannot be a positive.

    Right, but as yet we haven't seen whether we will get A) success, B) the Special Relationship, C) Both, D) Neither from how RD wants to run the club. On the face of it there is little to cheer but these are very early days indeed, the pieces of the puzzle aren't even out of the metaphorical box yet.