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World Cup in Qatar 'impossible' in summer, says Greg Dyke

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  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,157

    You'll be one of the Times/Guardian readers then ;-)

    Independent, when I can QN...

  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,743

    I've heard it said on occasions, that Blatter is not the type of person you would wipe your arse with.

    Who is that type of person? Doesn't sound a great job to me.
  • moutuakilla
    moutuakilla Posts: 7,580
    Really can't see this being taken away from Qatar. Even in the unlikely event that Sepp's lawyer finds corruption, he will do what he normally does and laugh it off and say we can't take it off te Qatari people now. Just reading about the other 2022 bidders, I must have missed it at the time, but Japan and America bid for it again, they have both had it recently, and Japan only 12 years again... Madness.
  • moutuakilla
    moutuakilla Posts: 7,580
    An now blatter links the investigations to Racism!? This man needs to go
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,030

    An now blatter links the investigations to Racism!? This man needs to go

    Well it worked for Labour, until Gordon Brown finally got turned over by a pensioner from Rochdale.
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,613

    An now blatter links the investigations to Racism!? This man needs to go

    For this alone, he should go. All that says to me is that the claims surrounding corruption are 100% true.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,059
    Sometimes I get the impression that it's only us Brits that really care about the alleged bribery that took place, maybe it's just not that big a deal in other parts of the world ?
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,161
    se9addick said:

    Sometimes I get the impression that it's only us Brits that really care about the alleged bribery that took place, maybe it's just not that big a deal in other parts of the world ?

    I would think the indignation levels would closely follow the Transparency International Global Corruption index. Which by the way, the UK never tops (i.e is free of corruption) , nor even gets into the top 5. But some of our journalism remains world beating.
  • SilentAddick
    SilentAddick Posts: 1,603
    se9addick said:

    Sometimes I get the impression that it's only us Brits that really care about the alleged bribery that took place, maybe it's just not that big a deal in other parts of the world ?

    I place the blame for this British "corruption is a big deal" attitude fair and square on Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells. No question.
  • Absurdistan
    Absurdistan Posts: 8,024
    Most of the world would be shocked if there wasn't any corruption.

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  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,157
    Great article in last month's When Saturday Comes about when US journalist Grant Wahl tried to stand as FIFA president.
  • RedPanda
    RedPanda Posts: 4,989

    An now blatter links the investigations to Racism!? This man needs to go

    I don't see what the big deal is. According to Blatter logic we should all be able to shake hands and forget about it.
  • Super_horns
    Super_horns Posts: 1,299
    Probably try and get us banned now..
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,805
    edited June 2014

    "ALERT: FIFA called U.S. Soccer to have ready an Organizing Committee for 2022.
    There would be no World Cup in Qatar."






  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,632
    That's fantastic. I retire in 2022 and was thinking of a World Cup jaunt but Qatar was just not right. USA on the other hand :0)
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,743
    edited June 2014
    Creates a new issue - the country which invented the game doesn't get it for well over half a century and a country that calls it soccer gets it twice in less than 30 years. When you factor in the fact that the country that invented the game is probably one of 5 countries best equipped to hold a tournament of this sort, you really see how ridiculous it all is. If Qatar lose it, it should be offered to us!
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,251
    edited June 2014

    Creates a new issue - the country which invented the game doesn't get it for well over half a century and a country that calls it soccer gets it twice in less than 30 years. When you factor in the fact that the country that invented the game is probably one of 5 countries best equipped to hold a tournament of this sort, you really see how ridiculous it all is. If Qatar lose it, it should be offered to us!

    No it shouldn't.

    That we invented football is irrelevant. It was 1863 when we codified the rules. Move on.

    If we claim inventors rights then Greece would get the Olympics every four years.

    We bid in the 2018 round when it was Europe's "turn". We lost out to Russia. If that was a fix then maybe we should get a chance.

    We didn't bid in the 2022 round so we have no claim to take the "runners up" squad. The US did bid and came second.

    That the US calls it Soccer (a word invented in England, by the English and widely used in England up until the 1980s) is as relevant as saying Italy shouldn't host a tournament as they call soccer "Calcio".

    Should England host another major tournament soon? Yes, we have most of the stadiums, the fan base and most of the infra-structure. We did a great job with the 2012 olympics and we host a tennis grand slam and other major events every year. We won't need to spend billions to get ready and it would be ready on time. And the weather would be fine, if maybe a bit wet some days.

    So lots of good reasons to consider England but events from 1863 and what the US call the game are not some of them.


  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,743
    edited June 2014
    I'm not saying every 4 years - but we all know that FIFA and world football resents us for inventing the game and that simple reason has prevented a country with our superior infrastucture getting it since 1966. I would put on the back of our tracksuits ~ We invented this bloody game you *****!

    I don't think we were able to bid for 2022 because the previous World Cup was going to be held in Europe. But if we lose Qatar, surely give it to a country who could host it at the drop of a hat!
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,251
    edited June 2014

    - but we all know that FIFA and world football resents us for inventing the game

    Do they? Where is the evidence for that?

    Maybe they don't like the arrogance of some England fans telling everyone that "we invented the game" as if that should give us special privileges.

    Which as it happens it still does. Permanent memberships of the The International Football Association Board (that sets the laws of the game) for example. Not just England either. Scotland, N. Ireland and Wales too.

    And that we are one country with four teams and four votes must puzzle at lot of people too.

    FIFA is a corrupt and badly run organisation but it makes aircraft hangers full of dosh now and that is why England doesn't get tournaments. We don't pay big enough bribes.

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  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,743
    edited June 2014
    They don't like the arrogance of English fans - I accept that - but we are only telling the truth - Of course the four associations keeps us down too - think of Best, Dalglish, Giggs, Bale............

    You are right about the bribes though.
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,969
    Would have liked to see it in Oz, and at least it's their winter.

    But rather the US than Qatar!
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,969

    But if we lose Qatar, surely give it to a country who could host it at the drop of a hat!

    They will be doing exactly that if they give it to the US.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,743
    edited June 2014
    Yes but I didn't mean yanks - they should be exempt until it is their national sport!
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,118

    Yes but I didn't mean yanks - they should be exempt until it is their national sport!

    You've proper lost the plot.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,743
    I'm amazed people think the idea is ok for the USA to hold it 2 times since we originally did.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,030
    edited June 2014
    Muttley is someone hacking your account ? As Stu says you've lost the plot mate.

    Your logic on here is as sound as your " Alastair Cook is a coward and should be dropped for Pietersen to return as captain."

    (on the Test Match thread).

    Wibble.
  • stilladdicted
    stilladdicted Posts: 4,307
    edited June 2014
    Wot like South Arica you mean NLA ? :-)
  • stilladdicted
    stilladdicted Posts: 4,307
    It's a dangerous idea. This campsite is currently enduring high humidity and daytime temps of 35 degrees and no breeze. We are in the 5th day and people are now struggling. Brazil is hellish enough for footballers, Qatar is plain medically irresponsible IMO
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,161

    Would have liked to see it in Oz, and at least it's their winter.

    But rather the US than Qatar!

    What basis does Blatter have to just give it to the US? Australia has just as strong a claim and has not had it before.

    Blatter needs to be eliminated.