Red Card, yes or no?
He didn't even get a yellow.
Switzerland defender Steve von Bergen was forced off in the fifth minute, after being kicked in the face by French striker Olivier Giroud.
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No chance, you can see in the second clip he has his eyes on the ball until the very last moment, it's a high foot and a foul, but nothing else7
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It's still dangerous play though, i'd say yes.
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Not a red card imo.2
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Yes for me, whist he has gone for the ball you are allways going to have a player there trying to head it.
It not like he was out on the wing trying to keep the ball in play0 -
intention is irrelevant here
it's a dangerous high foot0 -
Foot was high but his eye was on the ball. Complete accident, IMO. therefore, yellow card4
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Yellow card. Dangerous play.2
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nope not for me its a yellow - eye is on ball swiss player comes in on his blind side.
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Yellow for me.1
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Def Yellow. Eye on the ball, no intent, no clear goalscoring opportunity etc.0
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Should be a yellow at least, it's dangerous and how could anyone think there wouldn't be a defender challenging the ball there.
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Cautionable offences
A player is cautioned and shown the yellow card if he commits any of the
following seven offences:
• unsporting behaviour
• dissent by word or action
• persistent infringement of the Laws of the Game
• delaying the restart of play
• failure to respect the required distance when play is restarted with a corner
kick, free kick or throw-in
• entering or re-entering the field of play without the referee’s permission
• deliberately leaving the field of play without the referee’s permission
Sending-off offences
A player, substitute or substituted player is sent off if he commits any of the
following seven offences:
• serious foul play
• violent conduct
• spitting at an opponent or any other person
• denying the opposing team a goal or an obvious goalscoring opportunity
by deliberately handling the ball (this does not apply to a goalkeeper within
his own penalty area)
• denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity to an opponent moving
towards the player’s goal by an offence punishable by a free kick or a
penalty kick
• using offensive, insulting or abusive language and/or gestures
• receiving a second caution in the same match
Going off of this he can't be booked unless he's already committed a number of offences and is considered to be persistently infringing the laws
He could see red for serious foul play or violent conduct but either of those would be harsh for an accident
Looks like a free kick and a warning to me0 -
No way Olivier0
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He was focused on the ball so wouldn't have seen the Swiss player until committed.
Unfortunate accident no more. Yellow at most.0 -
It's a yellow at best.0
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Never a red, clearly focussed on the ball.0
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I'd say that was a yellow0
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As Danny Blanchflower used to say: 'If he puts his head down, don't disappoint him'.1
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This doesn't look right. According to this, there is no yellow card, for a "bad" foul.rina said:Cautionable offences
A player is cautioned and shown the yellow card if he commits any of the
following seven offences:
• unsporting behaviour
• dissent by word or action
• persistent infringement of the Laws of the Game
• delaying the restart of play
• failure to respect the required distance when play is restarted with a corner
kick, free kick or throw-in
• entering or re-entering the field of play without the referee’s permission
• deliberately leaving the field of play without the referee’s permission
Sending-off offences
A player, substitute or substituted player is sent off if he commits any of the
following seven offences:
• serious foul play
• violent conduct
• spitting at an opponent or any other person
• denying the opposing team a goal or an obvious goalscoring opportunity
by deliberately handling the ball (this does not apply to a goalkeeper within
his own penalty area)
• denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity to an opponent moving
towards the player’s goal by an offence punishable by a free kick or a
penalty kick
• using offensive, insulting or abusive language and/or gestures
• receiving a second caution in the same match
Going off of this he can't be booked unless he's already committed a number of offences and is considered to be persistently infringing the laws
He could see red for serious foul play or violent conduct but either of those would be harsh for an accident
Looks like a free kick and a warning to me1 -
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I did wonder about that but it's a c&p from the fifa laws of the game and is exactly the same in the FA versionCovered End said:
This doesn't look right. According to this, there is no yellow card, for a "bad" foul.rina said:Cautionable offences
A player is cautioned and shown the yellow card if he commits any of the
following seven offences:
• unsporting behaviour
• dissent by word or action
• persistent infringement of the Laws of the Game
• delaying the restart of play
• failure to respect the required distance when play is restarted with a corner
kick, free kick or throw-in
• entering or re-entering the field of play without the referee’s permission
• deliberately leaving the field of play without the referee’s permission
Sending-off offences
A player, substitute or substituted player is sent off if he commits any of the
following seven offences:
• serious foul play
• violent conduct
• spitting at an opponent or any other person
• denying the opposing team a goal or an obvious goalscoring opportunity
by deliberately handling the ball (this does not apply to a goalkeeper within
his own penalty area)
• denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity to an opponent moving
towards the player’s goal by an offence punishable by a free kick or a
penalty kick
• using offensive, insulting or abusive language and/or gestures
• receiving a second caution in the same match
Going off of this he can't be booked unless he's already committed a number of offences and is considered to be persistently infringing the laws
He could see red for serious foul play or violent conduct but either of those would be harsh for an accident
Looks like a free kick and a warning to me
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I suspect a bad foul comes under unsporting behaviour.rina said:
I did wonder about that but it's a c&p from the fifa laws of the game and is exactly the same in the FA versionCovered End said:
This doesn't look right. According to this, there is no yellow card, for a "bad" foul.rina said:Cautionable offences
A player is cautioned and shown the yellow card if he commits any of the
following seven offences:
• unsporting behaviour
• dissent by word or action
• persistent infringement of the Laws of the Game
• delaying the restart of play
• failure to respect the required distance when play is restarted with a corner
kick, free kick or throw-in
• entering or re-entering the field of play without the referee’s permission
• deliberately leaving the field of play without the referee’s permission
Sending-off offences
A player, substitute or substituted player is sent off if he commits any of the
following seven offences:
• serious foul play
• violent conduct
• spitting at an opponent or any other person
• denying the opposing team a goal or an obvious goalscoring opportunity
by deliberately handling the ball (this does not apply to a goalkeeper within
his own penalty area)
• denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity to an opponent moving
towards the player’s goal by an offence punishable by a free kick or a
penalty kick
• using offensive, insulting or abusive language and/or gestures
• receiving a second caution in the same match
Going off of this he can't be booked unless he's already committed a number of offences and is considered to be persistently infringing the laws
He could see red for serious foul play or violent conduct but either of those would be harsh for an accident
Looks like a free kick and a warning to me0 -
No way a red - of course not - what are you thinking of ?!0
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Under unsporting behaviour there are sub categories like reckless play, foul tackle, tripping, pulling and aggressive attitude so this incident I feel would go under this. I certainly would have cautioned Giroud but as regards a red - no as there's no intention to injure the opponent but having the foot that high is reckless IMO.1
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Not a red card in my opinion. It's a high challenge but looking at this clip you can see he is watching the ball and not the defender.0
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Interesting responses.
Have seen lots of red cards for this over the years.
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What amazes me is the amount of overhead kicks that go unpunished when a defender is nearby , the only way the defender gets a free kick is if he puts his head amongst it and gets it kicked !0
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There is something wrong with a sport (and probably wider society too) that considers having a potty mouth to be a worse crime than being a danger to others.PeterGage said:
Can't get sent off for dangerous play.C_A_F_C said:It's still dangerous play though, i'd say yes.
Can get sent off for violent conduct, serious foul play, foul/abusive language, and two yellow cards.0
