Racism at Charlton - Rio Ferdinand
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You were probably laughing at him for still riding a trike at 8 years old.boggzy said:I was called a 'honky c**t' for no reason by an eight year old kid on a tricycle in Homerton about ten years ago! :-D
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Alexis Korner on Hot Chocolate's 'Brother Louie' (1973)hoof_it_up_to_benty said:I can't believe anyone has ever used the word honky...
Rudolph Walker in probably every edition of 'Love Thy Neighbour' (1972-6)
and, errr, that's it.0 -
`Honky' LOL....I wouldn't feel put down in the slightest if someone threw that at me. It's a 70's classic and just sounds ridiculous these days. I think i'd just laugh to be honest.
Its like someone with milk bottle glasses calling you a clear sighted c***.0 -
yeah, but i bet you aren't looked at funny by shopkeepers regularly or even people walking down the street or even followed and searched by the police simply because of the colour of your skin. I don't think many people realise the institutional racism that still exists for minorities which is part of the reason they find it acceptable to call you a honkey/white cunt etc, that and they're complete prats themselves.Charltonparklane said:
please don't imply that Racism isn't solely a white issue.Fiiiiiish said:Ferdinand is an absolute bell, he must have picked up a couple of things off that kid though.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/18847477
In the past two seasons, Ive been called, a 'fckin Honky', White Cnut'C_Jensens_Love_Child said:
Can honestly say the same, I've been called a white bastard but I don't deem that to be racist, although I was slightly offended by being called a bastard when I'm in fact not.Charltonparklane said:Incident probably didn't even happen, just filled another couple of paragraphs.
Been involved in my own football and kids football for over 30 years and barely heard a racist comment,
Think its a big myth and something that creates jobs through campaigns.
This is in Vets football.
Weve had a black ref and a white ref and neither were interested.
guarantee it would hve been a 22 man brawl If I had the nerve to say anything derogatory via Racism.
I could go on but know the thread would be closed.
However in kids football, Ive heard nothing. either way in the past 10 years from U8 to U185 -
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Rio played for Blackheath & District U11s at Hervey Road in Kidbrooke on Saturday mornings. The U11s manager was Dave Goodwin, who was Lennie Lawrence's opposition scout. So Charlton were in the pound seats. However, when Lennie moved to Middlesbrough, Dave went with him, and the link to Charlton became weaker. I guess Rio had a free choice when the time came to sign associate schoolboy forms and West Ham's Academy led by Tony Carr had an excellent reputation at the time0
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He was also well known by west ham at aged 11, played for London Schools.
Remember being asked at the meridian to round a team of U14s up as American side had come to play U12 London side came with 2 teams, U12 and U14.
We was there watching my mate play CH with Rio in the U12s
Remember beating them with a load of mates rounded up to play the U14s.0 -
I got called that endlessly when I accidentally took a "shortcut" through Tenderloin in SF...hoof_it_up_to_benty said:I can't believe anyone has ever used the word honky...
Given the amount of racism they'd all no doubt encountered in their lives I managed to shake it off though.0 -
Charltonparklane said:
please don't imply that Racism isn't solely a white issue.Fiiiiiish said:Ferdinand is an absolute bell, he must have picked up a couple of things off that kid though.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/18847477
In the past two seasons, Ive been called, a 'fckin Honky', White Cnut'C_Jensens_Love_Child said:
Can honestly say the same, I've been called a white bastard but I don't deem that to be racist, although I was slightly offended by being called a bastard when I'm in fact not.Charltonparklane said:Incident probably didn't even happen, just filled another couple of paragraphs.
Been involved in my own football and kids football for over 30 years and barely heard a racist comment,
Think its a big myth and something that creates jobs through campaigns.
This is in Vets football.
Weve had a black ref and a white ref and neither were interested.
guarantee it would hve been a 22 man brawl If I had the nerve to say anything derogatory via Racism.
I could go on but know the thread would be closed.
However in kids football, Ive heard nothing. either way in the past 10 years from U8 to U18
How you worked that out from what I said is impressive as I certainly wasn't implying it was only a white issue, I know it isn't.Charltonparklane said:
please don't imply that Racism isn't solely a white issue.Fiiiiiish said:Ferdinand is an absolute bell, he must have picked up a couple of things off that kid though.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/188474770 -
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I actually Liked that post, dont think that post was supposed to be quoted.Fiiiiiish said:Charltonparklane said:
please don't imply that Racism isn't solely a white issue.Fiiiiiish said:Ferdinand is an absolute bell, he must have picked up a couple of things off that kid though.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/18847477
In the past two seasons, Ive been called, a 'fckin Honky', White Cnut'C_Jensens_Love_Child said:
Can honestly say the same, I've been called a white bastard but I don't deem that to be racist, although I was slightly offended by being called a bastard when I'm in fact not.Charltonparklane said:Incident probably didn't even happen, just filled another couple of paragraphs.
Been involved in my own football and kids football for over 30 years and barely heard a racist comment,
Think its a big myth and something that creates jobs through campaigns.
This is in Vets football.
Weve had a black ref and a white ref and neither were interested.
guarantee it would hve been a 22 man brawl If I had the nerve to say anything derogatory via Racism.
I could go on but know the thread would be closed.
However in kids football, Ive heard nothing. either way in the past 10 years from U8 to U18
How you worked that out from what I said is impressive as I certainly wasn't implying it was only a white issue, I know it isn't.Charltonparklane said:
please don't imply that Racism isn't solely a white issue.Fiiiiiish said:Ferdinand is an absolute bell, he must have picked up a couple of things off that kid though.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/188474770 -
was in the same year as his brother anton....Leroy Ambrose said:
by the sounds of it he carried on the family tradition
next level bell1 -
kentaddick said:Charltonparklane said:
Incident probably didn't even happen, just filled another couple of paragraphs.
Been involved in my own football and kids football for over 30 years and barely heard a racist comment,
Think its a big myth and something that creates jobs through campaigns.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq-v1TTUyhM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bImBBTaPDY 1 -
Nothing against you but that school had more than the national average of bell ends.
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I did indeed attend primary schoolJints said:
Primary school level comprehension skills?Northstandpieeater said:Team Henry on this one.Ferndinand was complimenting Charlton and he did not write the post title. Also not sure what Henry has 'presumed'
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Some Watford fan (could be Super Horns, for all I know) sang a song called Honky Cat on an album called Honky Chateau in 1972.Stig said:
Alexis Korner on Hot Chocolate's 'Brother Louie' (1973)hoof_it_up_to_benty said:I can't believe anyone has ever used the word honky...
Rudolph Walker in probably every edition of 'Love Thy Neighbour' (1972-6)
and, errr, that's it.0 -
Minoritykentaddick said:
yeah, but i bet you aren't looked at funny by shopkeepers regularly or even people walking down the street or even followed and searched by the police simply because of the colour of your skin. I don't think many people realise the institutional racism that still exists for minorities which is part of the reason they find it acceptable to call you a honkey/white cunt etc, that and they're complete prats themselves.Charltonparklane said:
please don't imply that Racism isn't solely a white issue.Fiiiiiish said:Ferdinand is an absolute bell, he must have picked up a couple of things off that kid though.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/18847477
In the past two seasons, Ive been called, a 'fckin Honky', White Cnut'C_Jensens_Love_Child said:
Can honestly say the same, I've been called a white bastard but I don't deem that to be racist, although I was slightly offended by being called a bastard when I'm in fact not.Charltonparklane said:Incident probably didn't even happen, just filled another couple of paragraphs.
Been involved in my own football and kids football for over 30 years and barely heard a racist comment,
Think its a big myth and something that creates jobs through campaigns.
This is in Vets football.
Weve had a black ref and a white ref and neither were interested.
guarantee it would hve been a 22 man brawl If I had the nerve to say anything derogatory via Racism.
I could go on but know the thread would be closed.
However in kids football, Ive heard nothing. either way in the past 10 years from U8 to U18
Looked at funny by shopkeepers
Stop and searched
Where is this and what year mate? Seriously, sounds like the 1970s in bloody Norfolk or something.
Lets thank fck it is a minority that have an issue with other peoples skin colour. A vey small minority now.
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Where does that word come from then ? Honky tonk ?Draizetrain said:`Honky' LOL....I wouldn't feel put down in the slightest if someone threw that at me. It's a 70's classic and just sounds ridiculous these days. I think i'd just laugh to be honest.
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I remember it from `Love Thy Neighbour' but its origins come from the southern states of America....well the term `Honky Tonk' anyway.PL54 said:
Where does that word come from then ? Honky tonk ?Draizetrain said:`Honky' LOL....I wouldn't feel put down in the slightest if someone threw that at me. It's a 70's classic and just sounds ridiculous these days. I think i'd just laugh to be honest.
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I'd like to know how he knows the police stop and search due to the colour of the skin??? Did they say it???Charltonparklane said:
Minoritykentaddick said:
yeah, but i bet you aren't looked at funny by shopkeepers regularly or even people walking down the street or even followed and searched by the police simply because of the colour of your skin. I don't think many people realise the institutional racism that still exists for minorities which is part of the reason they find it acceptable to call you a honkey/white cunt etc, that and they're complete prats themselves.Charltonparklane said:
please don't imply that Racism isn't solely a white issue.Fiiiiiish said:Ferdinand is an absolute bell, he must have picked up a couple of things off that kid though.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/18847477
In the past two seasons, Ive been called, a 'fckin Honky', White Cnut'C_Jensens_Love_Child said:
Can honestly say the same, I've been called a white bastard but I don't deem that to be racist, although I was slightly offended by being called a bastard when I'm in fact not.Charltonparklane said:Incident probably didn't even happen, just filled another couple of paragraphs.
Been involved in my own football and kids football for over 30 years and barely heard a racist comment,
Think its a big myth and something that creates jobs through campaigns.
This is in Vets football.
Weve had a black ref and a white ref and neither were interested.
guarantee it would hve been a 22 man brawl If I had the nerve to say anything derogatory via Racism.
I could go on but know the thread would be closed.
However in kids football, Ive heard nothing. either way in the past 10 years from U8 to U18
Looked at funny by shopkeepers
Stop and searched
Where is this and what year mate? Seriously, sounds like the 1970s in bloody Norfolk or something.
Lets thank fck it is a minority that have an issue with other peoples skin colour. A vey small minority now.1 -
Sorry mate, was a bit confused there!Charltonparklane said:
I actually Liked that post, dont think that post was supposed to be quoted.Fiiiiiish said:Charltonparklane said:
please don't imply that Racism isn't solely a white issue.Fiiiiiish said:Ferdinand is an absolute bell, he must have picked up a couple of things off that kid though.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/18847477
In the past two seasons, Ive been called, a 'fckin Honky', White Cnut'C_Jensens_Love_Child said:
Can honestly say the same, I've been called a white bastard but I don't deem that to be racist, although I was slightly offended by being called a bastard when I'm in fact not.Charltonparklane said:Incident probably didn't even happen, just filled another couple of paragraphs.
Been involved in my own football and kids football for over 30 years and barely heard a racist comment,
Think its a big myth and something that creates jobs through campaigns.
This is in Vets football.
Weve had a black ref and a white ref and neither were interested.
guarantee it would hve been a 22 man brawl If I had the nerve to say anything derogatory via Racism.
I could go on but know the thread would be closed.
However in kids football, Ive heard nothing. either way in the past 10 years from U8 to U18
How you worked that out from what I said is impressive as I certainly wasn't implying it was only a white issue, I know it isn't.Charltonparklane said:
please don't imply that Racism isn't solely a white issue.Fiiiiiish said:Ferdinand is an absolute bell, he must have picked up a couple of things off that kid though.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/188474770 -
Yeah make excuses for them. Only works one way after all.LeaburnForEngland said:
I got called that endlessly when I accidentally took a "shortcut" through Tenderloin in SF...hoof_it_up_to_benty said:I can't believe anyone has ever used the word honky...
Given the amount of racism they'd all no doubt encountered in their lives I managed to shake it off though.2 -
Honky a derogatory term for a Caucasian person.
there are three main theories for the origin of the word:
1. the word originated from the practice of white males wishing to hire African-American prostitutes in the 1920's, and going to the appropriate part of town while honking their car horns to attract the whores. Some versions state that the reason for this was that the white men were too afraid to actually stop in those neighborhoods, so the honking would bring the hookers to them. Others say that since few African-Americans could afford cars back in that time, the honking signaled a higher-paying white client and would quickly gain the prostitutes attention.
2. the term comes from the word "honky-tonk", which was used as early as 1875 in reference to wild saloons in the Old West. Patrons of such disreputable establishments were referred to as "honkies", not intended as a racial slur but still a disparaging term.
3. "honkie" is a variation of "hunky" and "bohunk", derogatory terms for Hungarian, Bohemian, and Polish immigrant factory workers and hard laborers in the early 1900's. African-Americans began to use the word in reference to all whites regardless of specific nation of origin.
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There's certainly seems to be a '70s theme coming out here.MountsfieldPark said:
Some Watford fan (could be Super Horns, for all I know) sang a song called Honky Cat on an album called Honky Chateau in 1972.Stig said:
Alexis Korner on Hot Chocolate's 'Brother Louie' (1973)hoof_it_up_to_benty said:I can't believe anyone has ever used the word honky...
Rudolph Walker in probably every edition of 'Love Thy Neighbour' (1972-6)
and, errr, that's it.
I looked it up in OED according to that it and the first known use of the word is in 1904, though for 63 years it referred to manual labourers of any race. It is believed to be a variant of hunk - hardly very derogatory is it?
The first known uses of it in racial terms both come from America in 1967. As a noun, "[Stokely] Carmichael..told students: ‘The honkies—whites—are dictating your lives.’", Bridgeport (Connecticut) Telegram. And as an adjective, "George Washington was a honky slave owner who sold a black woman for a barrel of syrup" Pampa (Texas) Daily News.
Edit - sorry @All_Thaid_Up but I hadn't seen your post when I posted this. Didn't want you to think I was blanking you.1 -
Whilst not being able to comment on this persons circumstances; the Police have admitted that 30% of stop and search procedures in relation to people of black origin they have not had a valid reason for the stop. That is to say no crime has been commited in the area and they have stopped the black person for no reason other then a whim. I believe this is compared to less then 5 % in relation to people of a white minority.C_Jensens_Love_Child said:
I'd like to know how he knows the police stop and search due to the colour of the skin??? Did they say it???Charltonparklane said:
Minoritykentaddick said:
yeah, but i bet you aren't looked at funny by shopkeepers regularly or even people walking down the street or even followed and searched by the police simply because of the colour of your skin. I don't think many people realise the institutional racism that still exists for minorities which is part of the reason they find it acceptable to call you a honkey/white cunt etc, that and they're complete prats themselves.Charltonparklane said:
please don't imply that Racism isn't solely a white issue.Fiiiiiish said:Ferdinand is an absolute bell, he must have picked up a couple of things off that kid though.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/18847477
In the past two seasons, Ive been called, a 'fckin Honky', White Cnut'C_Jensens_Love_Child said:
Can honestly say the same, I've been called a white bastard but I don't deem that to be racist, although I was slightly offended by being called a bastard when I'm in fact not.Charltonparklane said:Incident probably didn't even happen, just filled another couple of paragraphs.
Been involved in my own football and kids football for over 30 years and barely heard a racist comment,
Think its a big myth and something that creates jobs through campaigns.
This is in Vets football.
Weve had a black ref and a white ref and neither were interested.
guarantee it would hve been a 22 man brawl If I had the nerve to say anything derogatory via Racism.
I could go on but know the thread would be closed.
However in kids football, Ive heard nothing. either way in the past 10 years from U8 to U18
Looked at funny by shopkeepers
Stop and searched
Where is this and what year mate? Seriously, sounds like the 1970s in bloody Norfolk or something.
Lets thank fck it is a minority that have an issue with other peoples skin colour. A vey small minority now.0 -
If Rio Ferdinand is so upset about rude, offensive and abusive behaviour then he should have criticised Anton Ferdinabd when he verbally abused John Terry on the pitch.
Instead Rio supported Anton and was quite offensive to Ashley Cole. I suggest Rio looks a little closer to home if he wants to stop such disrespectful behaviour.0 -
Rewriting history. Ignoring the facts. Trying to hide something?smudge7946 said:If Rio Ferdinand is so upset about rude, offensive and abusive behaviour then he should have criticised Anton Ferdinabd when he verbally abused John Terry on the pitch.
Instead Rio supported Anton and was quite offensive to Ashley Cole. I suggest Rio looks a little closer to home if he wants to stop such disrespectful behaviour.2 -
He did mug himself off with the Ashley Cole incident though. Cant be one rule for one...1
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Source?Northstandpieeater said:
Whilst not being able to comment on this persons circumstances; the Police have admitted that 30% of stop and search procedures in relation to people of black origin they have not had a valid reason for the stop. That is to say no crime has been commited in the area and they have stopped the black person for no reason other then a whim. I believe this is compared to less then 5 % in relation to people of a white minority.C_Jensens_Love_Child said:
I'd like to know how he knows the police stop and search due to the colour of the skin??? Did they say it???Charltonparklane said:
Minoritykentaddick said:
yeah, but i bet you aren't looked at funny by shopkeepers regularly or even people walking down the street or even followed and searched by the police simply because of the colour of your skin. I don't think many people realise the institutional racism that still exists for minorities which is part of the reason they find it acceptable to call you a honkey/white cunt etc, that and they're complete prats themselves.Charltonparklane said:
please don't imply that Racism isn't solely a white issue.Fiiiiiish said:Ferdinand is an absolute bell, he must have picked up a couple of things off that kid though.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/18847477
In the past two seasons, Ive been called, a 'fckin Honky', White Cnut'C_Jensens_Love_Child said:
Can honestly say the same, I've been called a white bastard but I don't deem that to be racist, although I was slightly offended by being called a bastard when I'm in fact not.Charltonparklane said:Incident probably didn't even happen, just filled another couple of paragraphs.
Been involved in my own football and kids football for over 30 years and barely heard a racist comment,
Think its a big myth and something that creates jobs through campaigns.
This is in Vets football.
Weve had a black ref and a white ref and neither were interested.
guarantee it would hve been a 22 man brawl If I had the nerve to say anything derogatory via Racism.
I could go on but know the thread would be closed.
However in kids football, Ive heard nothing. either way in the past 10 years from U8 to U18
Looked at funny by shopkeepers
Stop and searched
Where is this and what year mate? Seriously, sounds like the 1970s in bloody Norfolk or something.
Lets thank fck it is a minority that have an issue with other peoples skin colour. A vey small minority now.
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