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Players Marks: Charlton v Norwich
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Dmitrovic 5
Solly 4 lowest I've marked him I think - off the game today
Wiggins 4
Bikey 3.5 too many errors, not enough focus
Ben Haim 5 best of our defence, not saying much
Gudmundsson 4 anonymous
Buyens 3.5 extra for taking one for the team
Jackson 4
Cousins 6 kept going when the senior players around him floundered
Bulot 3
Vetokele 6 got a goal! better after Watt came on and got some service
Watt 7 our best player
Harriott 6 added energy0 -
Agree. please start attending games.bazjonster said:
My sentiments exactly!! I'll take a couple of pairs of those glasses please @colin1961 and come round yours at Xmas to milk some of that generosity. Bikey and Ben Haim 7's!!?? And I must have missed the bit where Buyens 'worked his socks off' - or was that in changing room after??cafc-west said:
Solly made a few errors - but 3! Bikey 7! - Jeez. Jackson 3! You need to visit Specsavers. And after all your comments you say we deserved a point!! And - to top it all - you start that other stupid threat...Unbelievable.colin1961 said:Dmitrovic 7 pretty steady no chance with both goals,
Solly 3 the whole game was awful, struggling at this level at fault for first goal
Wiggins 3 Same as Solly either full back just cant stop the crosses coming in
Bikey 7 Done a lot of work spent to much time covering at full back , looked knacked at the end
Ben Haim7 Same to much time spent covering full back mistakes
Gudmundsson 6 needs to move central some good touches but not enough of the ball
Buyens 6 worked his socks off had no help in mid
Jackson 3 at least Luzon made the right call to take him off, should have been earlier.
Cousins 6 missed a simple header early on but gives his all but something missing ?
Bulot 6 Should not have gone off, needed to see more of the ball
Vetokele 7 worked hard , like Bulot first half needed the ball
Watt 8 MOM Changed the game.
Harriott 6 very little from Harriott
overall a harsh result we deserved a point1 -
Dmitrovic 5 will be glad when Henderson is back
Solly 5 terrible 1st half, better in the 2nd
Wiggins 4.5 very vulnerable to the ball over his left shoulder
Bikey 4 way overdue being dropped
Ben Haim 6 steady but not as commanding as normal
Gudmundsson 6 heavily marked
Buyens 4.5 ineffective
Jackson 5.5 similar to Buyens but a bit more work
Cousins 7 worked hard on the left and won the ball in the centre. Distribution will improve if he's kept in the middle and has a good partner alongside him.
Bulot 6 I thought he was ok in the 1st half but too lightweight
Vetokele 7 worked hard throughout and showed, when fed early, he and Watt could do damage
Watt 8 made a real difference.
Harriott 6.5 did well in the build up to Vetokele's goal.
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Dmitrovic 6 flaky
Solly 5 see above
Wiggins 5 see above
Bikey 6 slow and they targeted that
Ben Haim 6 some bad decisions
Gudmundsson 6 not his best night
Buyens 5 ineffective, but did try
Jackson 3 this surely has to be the last time he starts
Cousins 7 tried hard, a few misplaced passes, linked up well in the break for the second goal
Bulot 6 defended from the front, offered nothing going forward
Vetokele 7 defended from the front, took his goal well
Watt 8 class finish
Harriott 7 lively, played his part in Vetokele's goal0 -
Colin, these scores sum you up, your transfer rumours and your ratings are absolute rubbish...cafc-west said:
Solly made a few errors - but 3! Bikey 7! - Jeez. Jackson 3! You need to visit Specsavers. And after all your comments you say we deserved a point!! And - to top it all - you start that other stupid threat...Unbelievable.colin1961 said:Dmitrovic 7 pretty steady no chance with both goals,
Solly 3 the whole game was awful, struggling at this level at fault for first goal
Wiggins 3 Same as Solly either full back just cant stop the crosses coming in
Bikey 7 Done a lot of work spent to much time covering at full back , looked knacked at the end
Ben Haim7 Same to much time spent covering full back mistakes
Gudmundsson 6 needs to move central some good touches but not enough of the ball
Buyens 6 worked his socks off had no help in mid
Jackson 3 at least Luzon made the right call to take him off, should have been earlier.
Cousins 6 missed a simple header early on but gives his all but something missing ?
Bulot 6 Should not have gone off, needed to see more of the ball
Vetokele 7 worked hard , like Bulot first half needed the ball
Watt 8 MOM Changed the game.
Harriott 6 very little from Harriott
overall a harsh result we deserved a point
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If you cant say anything nice, ...Nicholas said:Dmitrovic 3 catch the ball you helmet
Solly 4 crap
Wiggins 2 dog shit
Bikey 1.5 calamity of a player
Ben Haim 2 lazy cock
Gudmundsson 3.5
Buyens 1.5 fuckoff
Jackson 2
Cousins 2 passing is dog shit
Bulot 1 piss off
Vetokele 6 done ok with a decent striker next to him
Watt 6 see igor
Harriott 1.5 do one0 -
It's very harsh of you to give everyone a minus score.Stewart said:
Dmitrovic - 3
Solly - fucked up for the first goal - 3
Wiggins - he was good, not anymore - 3
Bikey - good for the first 10 games, has he got bored at charlton already? - 3
Ben Haim - 5
Gudmundsson - 3
Buyens - Richard Murray said he was " something special" he's not. - 2
Jackson - 3
Cousins - 5
Bulot - please go - 2
Vetokele - he isn't that good - 3
Watt - 3
Harriott - 23 -
Dmitrovic at fault for 2nd goal, did not command the box. 4
Solly 4 at fault for the 1st goal
Wiggins 4 got beat to often.
Bikey headless chicken 3
Ben Haim 4 did not cope with the high ball
Gudmundsson 4
Buyens 4
Jackson 4
Cousins 5
Bulot 3 to light weight.
Vetokele 5 gets a point for the goal.
Watt 6 injected energy and scored.
Harriott 5 ok
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Dmitrovic 6 - No real chance with the goals (even the 2nd where he was damned if he did come out, and damned if he didn't..); unusually flappy though
Solly 4 - Poor game throughout; gifted them the first goal through sloppy play
Wiggins 5.5 - Lots of effort and dealt with Redmond quite well, but always on the back foot
Bikey 5.5 - Did reasonably well until running out of steam a bit toward the end
Ben Haim 6 - Not at his best, some sloppy passing
Gudmundsson 6.5 - Tried hard but was closed down continually
Buyens 5.5 - Better game but struggled when covering Jackson
Jackson 3.5 - Off the pace, always behind play, not good enough
Cousins 7 - All effort and the one shining light; booking was a joke!
Bulot 4 - Just did not seem to fit in or know where he was meant to play
Vetokele 6 - You can't fault the effort - ran himself to the ground; nice finish for his goal
Watt 7.5 - Made a huge difference; when will someone pick him to start with Igor??? Terrific finish for his goal
Harriott 6 - Tried hard and set up second goal0 -
He chased and harried all game, what more do you want from him when we can't provide him with any service?Arry Addick said:
Vetokele - 5.5 - Better in 2nd half, but does appear lazy at times.1 -
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Dmitrovic 5
Solly 4.5
Wiggins 5
Bikey 3.5
Ben Haim 4.5
Gudmundsson 5
Buyens 3.5
Jackson 4.5
Cousins 5
Bulot 4
Vetokele 6
Watt 6
Harriott 60 -
Dmitrovic 4 Clown, just catch it you twat
Solly 5 Not a great game
Wiggins 4 Poor
Bikey 2 words fail me, talk about Hero to Zero
Ben Haim 5 At least he has a bit of passion, most of it mis placed
Gudmundsson 4 Anonymous most of the match
Buyens 3 Couldn't give a shit
Jackson 4 Way off the pace
Cousins 5 Gave it a go, surprise surprise played better when he came in to the middle, still way to many misplaced passes
Bulot 1 No Comment
Vetokele 5 Mark for goal, would like to see him start with Watt
Watt 6 Ditto above
Harriott 5 Things got better when he came on, more down to the sensible formation change rather than Callum himself.
Luzon 2 Credit for the subs, starting formation and line up a complete joke. This crouching thing? Mate the ground won't open up and swallow no matter how low you get, just fuck off.1 -
I think most of the people marking must have left at half time
Dmitrovic 5 needs to catch more, played his part in the second goal
Solly 5 robbed for first goal, didn't do much going forward
Bikey 5 shaky for last two goals but dug himself out of a hole a few times
Ben Haim 6 did ok
Wiggins 5 had some bad moments but kept going
Gudmundsson 5.5 Not a great game but showed the odd touch of class
Buyens 6 Thought he was more combative than usual and perked up in the second half alongside everyone else
Jackson 4 He goes off and we start to resemble a football team. Happened a few times this season. Nothing against him but this is getting fairly conclusive. Off the pace and only good for the occasional tackle.
Cousins 8 MOM Enormous final half hour in the middle where he belongs
Bulot 3.5 Out of position and it showed
Vetokele 7.5 Strove hard and got some reward despite a few blind alleys
Watt 8 Looked sharp and took it to them
Harriott 7.5 His mere presence changed the game. Not his biggest fan - nobody is - but he really wanted it and some of his stuff came off1 -
Dmitrovic 6
Solly 5.5
Wiggins 5.5
Bikey 5
Ben Haim 6.5
Gudmundsson 6
Buyens 5
Jackson 5.5
Cousins 6
Bulot 5
Vetokele 6.5
Watt 6.5
Harriott 6
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Dmitrovic 5
Solly 5
Wiggins 5
Bikey 4 Can't believe how this guy has gone from looking a decent signing at the start of the season to what he is now!
Ben Haim 5.5
Gudmundsson 5.5
Buyens 5
Jackson 5
Cousins 7
Bulot 4
Vetokele 6
Watt 6
Harriott 40 -
Dmitrovic 1
Solly 4
Wiggins 3
Bikey 1
Ben Haim 6
Gudmundsson 6
Buyens 1
Jackson 3
Cousins 7.5
Bulot 1
Vetokele 6
Watt 7.5
Harriott 71 -
Dmitrovic - 6
Solly - 5.5
Wiggins - 5.5
Bikey - 4
Ben Haim - 6
Gudmundsson - 6
Buyens - 5
Jackson - 5
Cousins - 7
Bulot - 5
Vetokele - 7
Watt - 7.5
Harriott - 5.50 -
Dmitrovic 3 - can't - won't - catch so giving an already fragile defence kittens.
Solly 4
Wiggins 4
Bikey 3 - lumbering hit and miss, mainly miss
Ben Haim 5
Gudmundsson 4
Buyens 4
Jackson 4
Cousins 6
Bulot 4
Vetokele 6 ran around a lot, largely chasing shadows but still ...
Watt 7 - made the difference when he came on but by then we were two down!
Harriott 50 -
After sleeping on last nights performance...
Dmitrovic - 5 ... Granted he's European so will punch rather than catch but needs to get distance on them as they're going straight back into the danger zone.
Solly - 5.5 ... At fault for the first goal
Wiggins - 5 ... Terrorised by Nathan Redmond who should be playing @ Premier League level
Bikey - 5 ... Seems to have lost his aerial ability
Ben Haim - 6 ... Not his best game but tried to bring it out of Defence at times
Gudmundsson - 5 ... Ineffective tonight but we cant solely rely on him
Buyens - 5
Jackson - 5.5
Cousins - 7 (MOTM) ... Lad doesnt give up, you could clearly see him trying to motivate the players prior to Kick-Off after it went 3-2
Bulot - 5 ... He tried, did well trying to close down but what could do with no service to feet?
Vetokele - 6 ... The same with Bulot, he needs service to feet, hopefully his goal will give him much needed confidence
Watt - 7 ... Caused problems for Norwich and linked up well with Igor
Harriott - 5 ... Showed flashes and gave the side a bit more balance but lost the ball leaving Wiggins exposed and allowed Norwich to break and almost score0 -
Also, I don't understand what others' marks have to do with one's own.lancashire lad said:
That is a very high handed remark and rather superciliousHenry Irving said:Sorry LL but reading some of the marks on here tonight just confirms for me why I don't post my own marks.
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Dmitrovic 6
Solly 5
Wiggins 5
Bikey 4
Ben Haim 7
Gudmundsson 5
Buyens 4
Jackson 5
Cousins 6
Bulot 6
Vetokele 7 (incl +1 for a goal)
Watt 8 (incl + 1 for a goal - he doesn't seem to have let the "troubles" or not starting affect him too much)
Harriott 5 (not on long enough to do much wrong)0 -
Dmitrovic - 5.5
Solly- 6
Wiggins- 6
Bikey - 5
Ben Haim - 5
Gudmundsson - 6.5
Buyens - 5.5
Jackson - 6
Cousins - 8
Bulot - 5
Vetokele - 7
Watt - 7
Harriott - 6.50 -
Dmitrovic 6 Looked shaky which perhaps impacted on the rest of the back 4
Solly 6 Rare mistake and not his normal self. Two games close together may have taken their toll
Wiggins 6 Redmond and Johnson were no mugs and he stuck at it despite struggling at times
Bikey 5 Seems a shadow of the beast he once was
Ben Haim 6 Competent. No more than that
Gudmundsson 5 Very disappointing and bottled tackles which is criminal.
Buyens 5 Not great but not as bad as some are saying
Jackson 5 Tried but clearly not match fit after his lay off
Cousins 7.5 This boy is 20 but put his seniors to shame covering every blade of grass. Yes he misplaced a few passes but only because he refused to hide and ran his wotsits off. Next season he will almost certainly go to a club where the fans appreciate him more's the pity. Charlton need players like him.
Bulot 5 Not great but at least tried to support Vetokele
Vetokele 7 Thankless task on his own up top in the first half. Linked well with Harriott and Watt during our good spell
Watt 7 Grew into the game and took his goal with aplomb
Harriott 7 His pace running at the defence changed the game and gave us half a chance. Another 20 year old boy unappreciated by many of his own fans.3 -
Dmitrovic - 5, did okay except for the two punches. Positive in coming out.
Solly - 5, both full backs under a lot of pressure on the ball and struggled.
Bikey - 4, sluggish and dreadful distribution
Ben Haim - 5, poor but better than Bikey
Wiggins - 4.5, looked like they targeted, struggled with his matchup with Redmond
Gundmundsson - 5.5, unable to produce much
Cousins - 6.5, hardest worker and played well considering the performances of his colleagues
Buyens - 4, drifts and let's his man go too much for a CM, didn't back it up by being 'classy'
Jackson - 5.5, though he did alright, tackled well
Vetokele - 6, stranded first half, worked hard and deserved his goal
Bulot - 3, can't say that I noticed him actually do anything (except once or twice when I got him mixed up with Cousins)
Watt - 7, somehow got us back in the game, him coming on was a turning point
Harriott - 6.5, looked lively/tried, created a couple of chances and made an impact. Losing possession is part of his game though (didn't matter today because if he didn't, someone else would)
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Dmitrovic 4
Solly 5
Wiggins 4
Bikey 4
Ben Haim 6
Gudmundsson 4
Buyens 4
Jackson 4
Cousins 7
Bulot 5
Vetokele 6.5
Watt 6
Harriott 50 -
For those of us who dont understand who is in whose gang on here, please explain?Henry Irving said:Sorry LL but reading some of the marks on here tonight just confirms for me why I don't post my own marks.
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Dmitrovic - 5.5
Solly - 4.5
Wiggins - 4.5
Bikey - 4.5
Ben Haim - 5
Gudmundsson - 5
Buyens - 4.5
Jackson - 4
Cousins - 6.5
Bulot - 4
Vetokele - 6
Watt - 6.5
Harriott - 50 -
Dmitrovic - 6 couple of flaps under pressure and one duff punch. Positionally decent and kicking decent. 2nd goal he had a split second decision to make and it was a very good finish. If Bikey hadn't been out of position the keeper wouldn't have had to make the decision.
Solly - 5.5 at fault for the first and not his finest hour. For those saying he is finished at this level - you are idiots. How many off-days has Solly ever had!
Wiggins - 5 may have been pissed or on drugs. Currently unable to trap a bag of cement. Still offers more than Fox.
Bikey - 5 believes his own hype. When he joined he wanted to prove he was worthy. Now has a God complex and is playing awfully
Ben Haim - 6 apart from his distribution he is vital to our shambolic defence. Without him I dread to think where we'd be.
Gudmundsson - 6 - needs better players around him to shine. an artist in a midfield of dog toffee
Buyens - 4 pants. pedestrian. bottle job. booked again.
Jackson - 4 copy and paste from previous - slow, off the pace, game passed him by. heard he's off to Hudds with Wilson.
Cousins - 7 - shining light. play him in the middle and his energy will give the midfield a lift.
Bulot - 4 runs like he is drying his nails. played fairly similar too. not what is needed in a scrap
Vetokele - 7 better. lovely assist. needs a partner - Watt is that man.
Watt - 7.5 made the difference. created the first with a dynamic run. Him and Igor looked good together
Harriott - 6 better than usual - actually applied a bit of brain.
Fans - 0
"Getting sacked in the morning" - you should be ashamed of yourselves.
Luzon 6
I actually agreed with 4-5-1 to start as Norwich are absolutely flying and he wanted to keep it tight. Made the right subs for the situation and nearly got a point. 4-4-2 is the way to proceed. Cousins at the base of the pyramid, JBG supporting the strikers. Just need 2 hard working wingers who can get up and down.3 -
Dmitrovic - 5
Solly - 5
Wiggins - 5
Bikey 3
Ben Haim 4
Gudmundsson - 5
Buyens - 3
Jackson - 3
Cousins -3
Bulot -3
Vetokele -6
Watt - 6
Harriott - 60 -
Dmitrovic - 4.5 (2nd goal was partly his fault, he was caught in no mans land - catch the ball lad!)
Solly - 5.5 (Lost possession too cheaply, defended very well)
Wiggins - 5.5 (Had a decent game against Redmond)
Bikey - 3 (Woeful - tries to act like the hard man, just make a tackle and pass the ball on you pleb)
Ben Haim - 4.5 (Made some important challenges - can't be easy playing next to a clown)
Gudmundsson - 4.5 (Tidy player, didn't do much)
Buyens - 4.5 (Didn't really see much of him)
Jackson - 4.5 (Same as Buyons)
Cousins - 6 (Tried hard, never gave up but still can't pass a ball further than 3 yards)
Bulot - 5.5 (I though he looked lively in the first half and tried to make things happen)
Vetokele - 5 (Scored but didn't really do much else - horrible first touch when he was through in the first half too)
Watt - 6.5 (Looks a very good player)
Harriott - 5.5 (Tidy passes, tried to run at Whitaker when he could)0
