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Memory Test - Which ground have you seen Charlton at the most?

cabbles
cabbles Posts: 15,269
edited February 2015 in General Charlton
Right a little light relief away from the doom & gloom of what is becoming of our club under its present owners. My old man has recently begun to try and work out how many times he has seen us play against each football league/non league team (as some of them are now), at their ground.

He was lucky, or sad enough, dependent upon which way you look at it, to have recorded each game he went to from a young lad in the 60s, up to 1982. Thankfully after that, the late great Colin Cameron produced a brilliant book recording every Charlton game up until Oct 2003 (I think). He was able to use that and memory, to work out which clubs he has seen us play at, and how many times.

This is a work in progress, and he has only just started, so it will take some time. However I thought I'd start this thread so that other lifers can share their visits and offer up their tallies. I know some on here are absolute die-hards and are likely to offer up some pretty impressive stats. He's done a few clubs so far, which means I know how many times I have been to some clubs/grounds as I often went with him.

Apologies if this has been done before, and for some of you I'm guessing you might not have the time or inclination to go back down the years, but let's see what sort of responses there are. I'm starting with the following, and will add to it (and do my old man's when he has finished).

Aston Villa - 4
Southend - 3
Watford - 2
Portsmouth - 6
Birmingham - 2
Swindon - 2
Norwich - 4
Palace - 3
Reading - 2
Crewe - 2
Barnsley - 2
Port Vale - 2
Tranmere - 2
Stockport - 2
Grimsby - 2

The rest (below) are all one visit. I have more than one visit to places like Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea etc, I just need him to work them out and tell me.

Swansea
Burnley
Bournemouth
Brentford
Rotherham
Brighton
Wigan
Blackpool
Bristol City
MK Dons
Preston
Oldham
Walsall
Doncaster
Rochdale
Peterboro
Notts County
Scunthorpe
Colchester
Yeovil
Wycombe
Plymouth
Bury
Exeter
Stevenage
Oxford
Dag & Red
Carlisle
Barnet


I look forward to reading which of you has done 12+ trips to Middlesboro (old and new ground count by the way), as I think they are one of the teams we've played the most in our history.
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  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,345
    I know you cant record how many time you have been to a game, but there is a football ground map site you can use

    http://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/66084/footballgroundmap-com#latest

    also you can record your favorite ground
    worst ground
    Best Game
    Worst Game
    First Game
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,269
    paulie8290 said:

    I know you cant record how many time you have been to a game, but there is a football ground map site you can use

    http://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/66084/footballgroundmap-com#latest

    also you can record your favorite ground
    worst ground
    Best Game
    Worst Game
    First Game

    I think I posted on that one, cheers Paulie. Was hoping to get an idea of who has been where and how many times, as I bet we've got some real stalwarts on here with some decent stats. Shame that link doesn't let you tally number of visits up.
  • RedPanda
    RedPanda Posts: 4,998
    edited February 2015
    Leicester 6
    Watford 6
    Fulham 6
    Soton 4 or 5
    Pompey 4
    Brum 4
    Millwall 4
    Brentford 4
    Narwich 3
    Leeds 3
    Walsall 3
    Boro 3
    Palace 3
    Liverpool 3

    2: Man Yoo, Spurs, West Ham, West Brom, Ipswich, Bournemouth, Wolves, Blackburn, Sheff Wed, Forest, Bolton, Huddersfield, Cardiff, Brighton, Wigan, Bristol City, Oldham, Sheff Utd, Peterborough, Notts County, Colchester, Yeovil, Orient, Wimbledon, Southend, Carlisle.
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,641
    Chelsea 5
    Man City 2
    Southampton 5
    Arsenal 5
    Man U 5
    Spurs 6
    Liverpool 2
    West Ham 4
    Swansea 1
    Stoke 2
    Newcastle 5
    Everton 6
    Palace 5
    Sunderland 3
    Hull 3
    West Brom 2
    QPR 4
    Villa 3
    Leicester 4
    Middlesbrough 3
    Bournemouth 1
    Derby 3
    Ipswich 4
    Watford 3
    Brentford 1
    Norwich 4
    Wolves 1
    Blackburn 6
    Sheffield W 4
    Birmingham 1
    Forest 4
    Bolton 1
    Reading 2
    Huddersfield 2
    Leeds 5
    Fulham 5
    Brighton 4
    Millwall 4
    Wigan 1
    Blackpool 1
    Bristol City 3
    Swindon 2
    MK Dons 1
    Preston 1
    Oldham 3
    Sheffield United 4
    Chesterfield 1
    Bradford 1
    Walsall 2
    Doncaster 1
    Peterborough 1
    Notts County 2
    Gillingham 1
    Port Vale 3
    Barnsley 4
    Crewe 1
    Scunthorpe 1
    Coventry 4
    Colchester 3
    Yeovil 1
    Orient 1
    Shrewsbury 2
    Wycombe 1
    Southend 4
    Luton 3
    Plymouth 2
    Bury 2
    Exeter 2
    Northampton 1
    Cambridge 2
    Portsmouth 5
    Oxford 3
    Dag & Red 1
    Carlisle 1
    Tranmere 2
    Wimbledon 3 (possibly 4)
    Bristol rovers 1
    Grimsby 1
    Stockport 1
    Barnet 1
    Lincoln 1
    Hereford 1
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,269
    DaveMehmet said:

    Chelsea 5
    Man City 2
    Southampton 5
    Arsenal 5
    Man U 5
    Spurs 6
    Liverpool 2
    West Ham 4
    Swansea 1
    Stoke 2
    Newcastle 5
    Everton 6
    Palace 5
    Sunderland 3
    Hull 3
    West Brom 2
    QPR 4
    Villa 3
    Leicester 4
    Middlesbrough 3
    Bournemouth 1
    Derby 3
    Ipswich 4
    Watford 3
    Brentford 1
    Norwich 4
    Wolves 1
    Blackburn 6
    Sheffield W 4
    Birmingham 1
    Forest 4
    Bolton 1
    Reading 2
    Huddersfield 2
    Leeds 5
    Fulham 5
    Brighton 4
    Millwall 4
    Wigan 1
    Blackpool 1
    Bristol City 3
    Swindon 2
    MK Dons 1
    Preston 1
    Oldham 3
    Sheffield United 4
    Chesterfield 1
    Bradford 1
    Walsall 2
    Doncaster 1
    Peterborough 1
    Notts County 2
    Gillingham 1
    Port Vale 3
    Barnsley 4
    Crewe 1
    Scunthorpe 1
    Coventry 4
    Colchester 3
    Yeovil 1
    Orient 1
    Shrewsbury 2
    Wycombe 1
    Southend 4
    Luton 3
    Plymouth 2
    Bury 2
    Exeter 2
    Northampton 1
    Cambridge 2
    Portsmouth 5
    Oxford 3
    Dag & Red 1
    Carlisle 1
    Tranmere 2
    Wimbledon 3 (possibly 4)
    Bristol rovers 1
    Grimsby 1
    Stockport 1
    Barnet 1
    Lincoln 1
    Hereford 1

    6 trips to Ewood, that's laying down a gauntlet
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,084
    This will probably take me until March to calculate, so I'll be back later.
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,269
    Covered End said:

    This will probably take me until March to calculate, so I'll be back later.

    I predict some big tallies
  • Rock Spectacle
    Rock Spectacle Posts: 1,447
    Ditto, I dread to think, it may take some time. Could help while away a long work related train journey on Sunday though:)
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,279
    I would say i have been a bit conservative on some of these (95% accurate) Just under 300 games. Here goes
    Arsenal - 12
    Aston Villa - 3
    Burnley - 1
    Chelsea - 6
    Crystal Palace - 8
    Everton - 3
    Hull City - 2
    Leicester City - 7
    Liverpool - 3
    Manchester City - 2
    Manchester United - 6
    Newcastle United - 4
    QPR - 7
    Southampton - 5
    Stoke City - 2
    Sunderland - 5
    Swansea City - 1
    Tottenham - 9
    West Brom - 4
    West Ham - 5
    Birmingham - 2
    Blackburn - 5
    Blackpool - 2
    Bolton - 4
    Bournemouth - 3
    Brentford - 5
    Brighton - 5
    Cardiff - 2
    Derby - 5
    Fulham - 7
    Huddersfield - 3
    Ipswich - 5
    Leeds - 4
    Middlesbrough - 3
    Millwall - 8
    Norwich - 2
    Nottm Forest - 7
    Reading - 5
    Rotherham - 1
    Sheff Wed - 3
    Watford - 7
    Wigan - 1
    Wolves - 5
    Barnsley - 3
    Bradford - 2
    Bristol City - 4
    Colchester - 4
    Coventry - 4
    Crewe - 1
    Doncaster - 1
    Gillingham - 1
    Leyton Orient - 5
    MK Dons - 1
    Notts County - 4
    Oldham - 2
    Peterborough - 2
    Port Vale - 3
    Preston - 2
    Scunthorpe - 1
    Sheff United - 2
    Swindon - 5
    Walsall - 2
    Yeovil - 1
    Bury - 1
    Cambridge - 2
    Carlisle - 1
    Dagenham - 2
    Exeter - 1
    Hartlepool - 1
    Luton - 3
    Oxford - 4
    Plymouth - 1
    Portsmouth - 4
    Southend - 4
    Stevenage - 1
    Tranmere - 2
    Wycombe - 2
    Wimbledon - 3
    Stockport - 1
    Barnet - 3
    Bristol Rovers - 1
    Forest Green Rovers - 1
    Grimsby - 2
    Lincoln - 1
    Welling - 10
    Bromley - 1
    Ancona - 1
    Shamrock Rovers - 1
    Erith & Belvedere - 1
    Fisher Athletic - 1
    Maidstone United - 1
    Bashley - 1
    Dorchester - 1

  • Rock Spectacle
    Rock Spectacle Posts: 1,447
    Ancona possibly being the funniest!

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  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,269
    shirty5 said:

    I would say i have been a bit conservative on some of these (95% accurate) Just under 300 games. Here goes
    Arsenal - 12
    Aston Villa - 3
    Burnley - 1
    Chelsea - 6
    Crystal Palace - 8
    Everton - 3
    Hull City - 2
    Leicester City - 7
    Liverpool - 3
    Manchester City - 2
    Manchester United - 6
    Newcastle United - 4
    QPR - 7
    Southampton - 5
    Stoke City - 2
    Sunderland - 5
    Swansea City - 1
    Tottenham - 9
    West Brom - 4
    West Ham - 5
    Birmingham - 2
    Blackburn - 5
    Blackpool - 2
    Bolton - 4
    Bournemouth - 3
    Brentford - 5
    Brighton - 5
    Cardiff - 2
    Derby - 5
    Fulham - 7
    Huddersfield - 3
    Ipswich - 5
    Leeds - 4
    Middlesbrough - 3
    Millwall - 8
    Norwich - 2
    Nottm Forest - 7
    Reading - 5
    Rotherham - 1
    Sheff Wed - 3
    Watford - 7
    Wigan - 1
    Wolves - 5
    Barnsley - 3
    Bradford - 2
    Bristol City - 4
    Colchester - 4
    Coventry - 4
    Crewe - 1
    Doncaster - 1
    Gillingham - 1
    Leyton Orient - 5
    MK Dons - 1
    Notts County - 4
    Oldham - 2
    Peterborough - 2
    Port Vale - 3
    Preston - 2
    Scunthorpe - 1
    Sheff United - 2
    Swindon - 5
    Walsall - 2
    Yeovil - 1
    Bury - 1
    Cambridge - 2
    Carlisle - 1
    Dagenham - 2
    Exeter - 1
    Hartlepool - 1
    Luton - 3
    Oxford - 4
    Plymouth - 1
    Portsmouth - 4
    Southend - 4
    Stevenage - 1
    Tranmere - 2
    Wycombe - 2
    Wimbledon - 3
    Stockport - 1
    Barnet - 3
    Bristol Rovers - 1
    Forest Green Rovers - 1
    Grimsby - 2
    Lincoln - 1
    Welling - 10
    Bromley - 1
    Ancona - 1
    Shamrock Rovers - 1
    Erith & Belvedere - 1
    Fisher Athletic - 1
    Maidstone United - 1
    Bashley - 1
    Dorchester - 1

    That's a great tally @shirty5
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,849
    Millwall about 15
    Man U 3
    Liverpool 1
    Coventry 1
    Fulham 2 or 3
    Portsmouth 1
    Chelsea 2
    WHU 1
    Harlow 1
    Palarse 3
    QPR 1
    Nottm Forest 1
    Ipswich 1
    Birmingham 1
    Leeds 1
    Sheff Utd 1
    Bristol C 2
    Brentford 1
    Derby 1
    Arsenal 1
    Spurs 1
    Luton 1
    Reading 1
    Newcastle 2
    Bristol R 1
    Bournemouth 1
    Exeter 1
    Plymouth 1
    Leicester 1
    Stoke 1
    MK Dons when they were Wimbledon
    Barnet

    Wembley twice, to see us play Blackburn and Sunderland.

  • TheBrand09
    TheBrand09 Posts: 667
    I have done 58 out of the 91 in current FL.

    Southampton been to 6 times.

    Only ground I have seen Charlton win at twice.

    Estimate badly when procrastinating one day, that my record for seeing away wins is 13%. I average 11 a season for last 9 years.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,030
    Off the top of my head, not been to any away ground to see Charlton more than 3 times, which would be Watford, Spurs and QPR.

  • LouisMend
    LouisMend Posts: 5,461
    Off the top of my head ones over 3 times

    Sheff Wed 5
    Lofted Rd 4 (QPR and fulham, lost every time)
    Selhurst 6 (palace and Wimbledon)
    Bournemouth 4
    Watford 4

    3 times
    Norwich
    Hudds
    Millwall
    Boro
    Fulham at Craven Cottage
    Colchester
    Ipswich
    Brentford
    Derby (soon to be 4)
    Leeds
    Brighton
    Blackburn

    Plenty of 2s and 1s of course.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,923
    How can you guys remember all this - do you record them somewhere? I can name the grounds I've been to but not the number of times with any more accuracy than 'once' or 'more than once'. Could be something to do with being a doddery old fool - but I refuse to accept that!
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,209
    edited February 2015
    Well, according to my spreadsheet, top is Portman Road (8 times) and second is Elland Road (6 times).
    I've been to both Carrow Road and Vicarage Road 5 times each.
    Oddly the highest for London teams (watching Charlton) is Wimbledon - 4 times - but two different grounds.

    Edited to add I've been to 87 league clubs (+Brescia) and 105 league grounds (+Wembley).
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,269
    bobmunro said:

    How can you guys remember all this - do you record them somewhere? I can name the grounds I've been to but not the number of times with any more accuracy than 'once' or 'more than once'. Could be something to do with being a doddery old fool - but I refuse to accept that!

    I'm waiting for my dad to do his, so I can then do mine. But you are right, given that he's been going since the mid 60s, memory alone will not be accurate. He had written down every game he had ever been to up until 1982. After that we use the Colin Cameron book as mentioned above. I'm sure it can be done from memory for a few of the younger fans, but some trips just merge into one for me.

    All the times we played Villa in the Prem after we beat them 4-3 in the relegation season that I went to, I can't remember.

    I know we could end up with a few on here (we have already) that will have some pretty impressive tallies.

    I look forward to hearing yours bob :wink:
  • Simonsen
    Simonsen Posts: 5,513
    edited February 2015
    Your not proper Charlton unless you've got a spreadsheet. Here's mine in descending order.....with the victories underneath.

    QPR 13
    Fulham 12
    Derby 11
    Swindon 11
    Watford 11
    Arsenal 10
    Crystal Palace 10
    Tottenham 10
    Barnsley 9
    Chelsea 9
    Leicester 9
    Norwich 9
    Millwall 9
    Sheff Wed 9
    Birmingham 8
    Blackburn 8
    Newcastle 8
    Oxford 8
    Portsmouth 8
    Southampton 8
    Wimbledon 8
    Aston Villa 7
    Grimsby 7
    Leeds 7
    Liverpool 7
    Middlesbrough 7
    Bristol City 6
    Coventry 6
    Everton 6
    Ipswich 6
    Man City 6
    Man Utd 6
    Sheff Utd 6
    West Brom 6
    West Ham 6
    Wolves 6
    Brentford 5
    Huddersfield 5
    Forest 5
    Port Vale 5
    Bolton 4
    Brighton 4
    Bristol Rovers 4
    Luton 4
    Southend 4
    Sunderland 4
    Tranmere 4
    Yeovil 4
    Bradford 3
    Cambridge 3
    Oldham 3
    Orient 3
    Reading 3
    Shrewsbury 3
    Barnet 2
    Carlisle 2
    Chesterfield 2
    MK Dons 2
    Notts Co 2
    Peterborough 2
    Stoke 2
    Walsall 2
    Aldershot 1 (friendly)
    Cardiff 1
    Colchester 1
    Crewe 1
    Dagenham 1
    Exeter 1
    Hull 1
    Lincoln 1
    Plymouth 1
    Stevenage 1
    Stockport 1
    Swansea 1
    Wycombe 1
    Bournemouth 1

    Never been to Burnley!

    And here are the away victories.....(my first was Fulham 1-0 in 1983....Paul Curtis!)

    Swindon 7
    Norwich 4
    Oxford 4
    Portsmouth 4
    QPR 4
    Bristol City 3
    Chelsea 3
    Derby 3
    Grimsby 3
    Huddersfield 3
    Newcastle 3
    Sunderland 3
    Barnsley 2
    Blackburn 2
    Bradford 2
    Brighton 2
    Chesterfield 2
    Coventry 2
    Fulham 2
    Leeds 2
    Leicester 2
    Man City 2
    Middlesbrough 2
    Orient 2
    Southampton 2
    Southend 2
    Tottenham 2
    West Brom 2
    Wimbledon 2
    Yeovil 2
    Sheff Wed 2
    Watford 2
    Arsenal 1
    Aston Villa 1
    Birmingham 1
    Bolton 1
    Brentford 1
    Bristol Rovers 1
    Cambridge 1
    Cardiff 1
    Carlisle 1
    Colchester 1
    Crewe 1
    Crystal Palace 1
    Dagenham 1
    Lincoln 1
    Man Utd 1
    Millwall 1
    MK Dons 1
    Forest 1
    Peterborough 1
    Port Vale 1
    Sheff Utd 1
    Walsall 1
    West Ham 1
    Wycombe 1






  • Simonsen
    Simonsen Posts: 5,513
    cabbles said:



    I look forward to reading which of you has done 12+ trips to Middlesboro (old and new ground count by the way), as I think they are one of the teams we've played the most in our history.

    That would explain why Middlesbrough are the team I've seen us play the most (27 times...)

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  • stockportugaladdick
    stockportugaladdick Posts: 1,152
    Crikey, I'll have to do some digging to come up with exact numbers but Maine Rd/the council house must be no1 with Hillsborough a close 2nd and both will be well in to double figures
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,973
    Brilliant thread!

    Real Charlton Life Anorak stuff.


    First away match January 1968, away at top division Coventry City in the FA Cup (lost 0-3).
    The next season at Brian Clough's Derby County, the FA Cup games at Palace and Arsenal, Palace and Millwall of course in the League ........... I'm going to have to sit down with old fixture lists and away programmes.

    It's going to take some time.



  • paulbaconsarnie
    paulbaconsarnie Posts: 9,427
    bobmunro said:

    How can you guys remember all this - do you record them somewhere? I can name the grounds I've been to but not the number of times with any more accuracy than 'once' or 'more than once'.

    Same here.
    Don't know numbers but would guess sheff w and Portsmouth would be up there for me.
  • The_Organiser
    The_Organiser Posts: 3,999
    No idea - all I know is i'm on 99 grounds visited in total at the moment and seeing as I can't make Derby or Blackpool away this season, I think the Aviva in June for the paddies v England will be the big 100 for me.

    On recent form i feel like my answer should lie in Yorkshire but think it could be Fulham or Palace.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,923
    paulbaconsarnie said:

    bobmunro said:

    How can you guys remember all this - do you record them somewhere? I can name the grounds I've been to but not the number of times with any more accuracy than 'once' or 'more than once'.

    Same here.
    Don't know numbers but would guess sheff w and Portsmouth would be up there for me.
    The Old and New toolboxes and Sellout would be highest for me - and Belgrove Road for many pre-season friendlies.

  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,868
    this could take me some time to work out, don't go away as much now, but did plenty of years of home and away back in the 80's/90's.

    no time to sit and count now, but there are some impressive totals on here!
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,269
    Simonsen said:

    cabbles said:



    I look forward to reading which of you has done 12+ trips to Middlesboro (old and new ground count by the way), as I think they are one of the teams we've played the most in our history.

    That would explain why Middlesbrough are the team I've seen us play the most (27 times...)
    I think it's them and Pompey. Great tally @Simonsen - let's keep them coming everyone, I appreciate it might take a bit of time but it's an exercise I enjoyed, I hope you all will as well
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,201
    Can't remember each individual visit, only which grounds I have been to (about 65), so in answer to the thread title - Millwall, at least ten times between the two grounds.
  • StigThundercock
    StigThundercock Posts: 3,722
    most are single visits but most returns to watch Chalrton play at Fratton, Loftus Road and Craven Cottage, probably 3 each. Never seen CPFC play at home but did attend Charlton and Wimbledon games there during their respective tenancies, only seen us play at the toolbox if you count pre-season "friendly".
  • Starinnaddick
    Starinnaddick Posts: 4,358
    Very impressive Simonsen.
    I cant wait to see Covered Ends tally .

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