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An established championship club?

carly burn
carly burn Posts: 19,658
in General Charlton
For me it's just a whistle stop tipsy turvy league where you are either fighting for a top two slot. Fighting to get in the playoffs or fighting relegation. There's very little middle ground. The board seem to be getting our league confused with the premier league.

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  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,278
    Well we are definitely not 'established' at the moment. I take that description to mean that nobody seriously thinks we are likely to be relegated.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,792
    edited February 2015
    They're also ignoring the fact that when all Championship clubs get more central revenue - and parachute payments increase further - the effect will be to increase player wages, negating the benefit. So it's likely that either the loss will remain where it is or we'll fall further behind those buying in the main market place and find it even more difficult to compete.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,320
    edited February 2015
    The following chart tries to show just how established the various Championship clubs are. The x-axis shows the years that each team has been in the division. The y-axis gives an estimate of the chances that each club will leave the division at the end of this season. This isn't an ideal measure as it is based on a comparison of betting odds, but it should give a reasonable indication.

    The nearer a club is to the bottom right corner the more we can say that it is established (so that's Ipswich with their history of mid table finishes and play-off failures sorted). The nearer a club is to the top left the more confidence we can have that their stay is quite transitory (Bournemouth & Blackpool). The majority, including Charlton, are stuck in the bottom left corner indicating that it's a constantly shifting division and that any team is just as likely as the others to pass through quite quickly. Or, to use carly burn's words, "it's just a whistle stop tipsy turvy league where you are either fighting for a top two slot. Fighting to get in the playoffs or fighting relegation. There's very little middle ground".

    Screenshot 2015-02-18 11.18.29
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,658
    Excellent. Well done stig. So the heady heights of Ipswich are our aim.
  • CatAddick
    CatAddick Posts: 2,396
    If I read that right <50% of the clubs have been in the Championship for 4 years or more - sounds whistle-stop to me
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,320
    Screenshot 2015-02-18 15.47.57
  • Fiiish
    Fiiish Posts: 7,998
    Stig said:

    Screenshot 2015-02-18 15.47.57

    From a statistical robustness point of view, I would have made a table excluding the 6 clubs who have only been there for a year as every season will have exactly 6 teams like that. Interesting stats though. It'd be interesting to see an analysis of whether the length of time a team spends in the Championship has any effect on whether their eventual exit is by promotion or relegation.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,439
    Weren't Barnsley there for about 7 years before they went down last season? It really does just take one bad start or bad patch in any given season before the stats all turn on you. It's terrifying in a way.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 96,209
    Garrymanilow said:

    Weren't Barnsley there for about 7 years before they went down last season? It really does just take one bad start or bad patch in any given season before the stats all turn on you. It's terrifying in a way.

    I remember Preston having a good long run in the Championship that ended just a few years ago
  • IA
    IA Posts: 6,103
    ForeverAddickted said:

    Garrymanilow said:

    Weren't Barnsley there for about 7 years before they went down last season? It really does just take one bad start or bad patch in any given season before the stats all turn on you. It's terrifying in a way.

    I remember Preston having a good long run in the Championship that ended just a few years ago
    And Burnley...

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  • dizzee
    dizzee Posts: 5,616
    Tiger Woods has got a few
  • WestCountryAddick
    WestCountryAddick Posts: 2,545
    edited February 2015
    At this point, to turn ourselves into an average Championship club is a great first step. If we could become a version of Ipswich, then great, I would be happy with that, initially, it certainly beats where we are right now. But, what I don't want is for the Club to get us that far, realise that it can be financially rewarding if played right, and then accept the status quo. It's one thing being a competitive Championship side as KM suggests, but at some point, there has to be some kind of drive for us to kick on. I want something to look forward to each season rather than just being happy that we are well away from relegation with safe mid-table finish.

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