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Luzon's reaction to Wigan result

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  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,087
    Good interview Louis.


    “Our target was to come here and to play football, to play the ball on the ground like we did against Brentford.
    “A good team knows how to win here.
    “They know how to win on a good pitch and on a bad pitch.
  • Mike
    Mike Posts: 6,169
    blimey I quite like him after that
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Great great manager.
  • Seems to be gaining in confidence
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,035
    He ain't a bad coach
  • Putting a team out isn't like selecting your fantasy football team, 2 up front, Bulot on the left, JBG on the right. Clearly a lot of coaching has been about fast and lethal breaks, so Luzon (and Matthew) deserve a lot of credit
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    We've scored 8 in the last 2.5 games

    Interesting that 442 has been employed for that period.

    Amazing what a couple of results can do - there seems to be a swagger and for the first time in years we look very strong on the counter attack
  • PL54
    PL54 Posts: 10,757
    just 36% possession again that's - not a lot of time with the ball to score 3 (again)
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,087
    Possession means nothing :smiley:

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  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,034
    Fair play to the bloke, he came in to a resounding shrug of shoulders (at best), didn't get the early wins that might have won a few over but has kept plugging away and working hard and now we've got a squad that seems to have regrown it's confidence. No doubt some senior players have had a hand in that but if Guy is sensible he'll have let the Johnsons and Jacksons do the speeches and focus on drilling the new methods... and it's worked. I doubt I will ever like him, personally, in the way I came to like Riga but if he does the job right then personality comes a long way second!
  • PL54
    PL54 Posts: 10,757
    stonemuse said:

    Possession means nothing :smiley:

    goals matter but if there is some tactic to sit and break it will only work well to a point. working so far though.
  • PL54 said:

    stonemuse said:

    Possession means nothing :smiley:

    goals matter but if there is some tactic to sit and break it will only work well to a point. working so far though.
    Won Cheslea the 2nd biggest prize in football.

  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,524

    PL54 said:

    stonemuse said:

    Possession means nothing :smiley:

    goals matter but if there is some tactic to sit and break it will only work well to a point. working so far though.
    Won Cheslea the 2nd biggest prize in football.

    After the JPT you mean?
  • Dizzle
    Dizzle Posts: 5,190
    edited February 2015
    They put on a load of attackers to try to score so we also put on an attacker to try and take advantage of their lack of defence. Love that!
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,605
    stonemuse said:

    Possession means nothing :smiley:

    9/10th of the law!
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,605
    edited February 2015

    He ain't a bad coach

    Time will tell but he seems to be getting better with each game. It irks me that he shows no acknowledgment of the fans. yes he got pelters on arrival, but, firstly, he asked for our support before Brentford, as did Jackson, and when we have given it, he should respond. secondly, having a manager that shows regard to the fans will build the overall relationship with the club owners and finally, there will be dark days ahead and he and his team will be better witha relationship with the fans than without it.

    I am not anti Luzon or anti network, but i feel that not acknowledging the crowd (other than mentioning in a radio interview) and the late cancellation of his appearance at the VIP meeting does disrespect us.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,141
    edited February 2015
    I think he's had a bum rap from us fans because of the way his transfer was handled. Personally, I'm still suspicious as to RD's motives for hiring him (cheap? yes man?) especially given the indecent haste of his appointment, but that doesn't mean that he's not a good coach and doesn't want the best for Charlton. I'd like to see us give him some vocal support at games.
  • Rossman92
    Rossman92 Posts: 3,663
    edited February 2015
    Guy Luzon's Red Army. That is all
  • SEFREE
    SEFREE Posts: 103
    thenewbie said:

    Fair play to the bloke, he came in to a resounding shrug of shoulders (at best), didn't get the early wins that might have won a few over but has kept plugging away and working hard and now we've got a squad that seems to have regrown it's confidence. No doubt some senior players have had a hand in that but if Guy is sensible he'll have let the Johnsons and Jacksons do the speeches and focus on drilling the new methods... and it's worked. I doubt I will ever like him, personally, in the way I came to like Riga but if he does the job right then personality comes a long way second!

    I have a feeling the Johnson wants to be the Jackson


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  • I think it is a great pity that he did not give Henderson praise for his saves which were the foundation of our win, instead he said that Henderson did not touch the ball.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,035
    Kap10 said:

    He ain't a bad coach

    Time will tell but he seems to be getting better with each game. It irks me that he shows no acknowledgment of the fans. yes he got pelters on arrival, but, firstly, he asked for our support before Brentford, as did Jackson, and when we have given it, he should respond. secondly, having a manager that shows regard to the fans will build the overall relationship with the club owners and finally, there will be dark days ahead and he and his team will be better witha relationship with the fans than without it.

    I am not anti Luzon or anti network, but i feel that not acknowledging the crowd (other than mentioning in a radio interview) and the late cancellation of his appearance at the VIP meeting does disrespect us.
    I agree, id always expect players and staff to applaud the travelling fans, but some don't. Luzon isn't the only culprit. He's also been given a lot of stick but last night he had positive words to say about the fans (albeit he was asked) so perhaps, and I hope, he gets a clap to his dugout at home games and in turn acknowledges our support.
  • SEFREE
    SEFREE Posts: 103
    I like the way Luzon dismissed the Johnson is brave tact from the last journo. Dismissive as if to say, so what he can run cant he?

    He's a bloke earning a living and doing a decent job so far. I for one dont think we should be battling him because of his boss. That would be fairly self defeating on our part.



  • I have seen Luzon clap the fans ? Pretty sure he did as he walked off at Brentford
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,141

    I have seen Luzon clap the fans ? Pretty sure he did as he walked off at Brentford

    He clapped the fans last night (I think I might have a photo to prove it), but he didn't walk much further than the half way line.
  • dizzee
    dizzee Posts: 5,616
    Stig said:

    I have seen Luzon clap the fans ? Pretty sure he did as he walked off at Brentford

    He clapped the fans last night (I think I might have a photo to prove it), but he didn't walk much further than the half way line.
    He's probably staying a bit quiet until the results quieten the fans down. Then he can start to build a relationship.
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,271
    dizzee said:

    Stig said:

    I have seen Luzon clap the fans ? Pretty sure he did as he walked off at Brentford

    He clapped the fans last night (I think I might have a photo to prove it), but he didn't walk much further than the half way line.
    He's probably staying a bit quiet until the results quieten the fans down. Then he can start to build a relationship.
    Spot on I reckon. I think he knows he came into a bad situation and as read it quite well. Too soon BP was having punch ups with other managers and was very quick to project a bond with the fans.

    Perhaps GL thinks if I focus on the pitch and the team, the results then start to come, then that bond is formed. He acknowledged the support in the post match interview.
  • Rob
    Rob Posts: 11,890
    I'm starting to like him. The results are helping.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,982
    PL54 said:

    just 36% possession again that's - not a lot of time with the ball to score 3 (again)

    10 tippy-tappy sideways and backwards passes ........ or a couple of touches on a 10 yard run, a sweeping pass and a first time shot, GOAL!

    Which is the most effective?

  • Kap10 said:

    He ain't a bad coach

    Time will tell but he seems to be getting better with each game. It irks me that he shows no acknowledgment of the fans. yes he got pelters on arrival, but, firstly, he asked for our support before Brentford, as did Jackson, and when we have given it, he should respond. secondly, having a manager that shows regard to the fans will build the overall relationship with the club owners and finally, there will be dark days ahead and he and his team will be better witha relationship with the fans than without it.

    I am not anti Luzon or anti network, but i feel that not acknowledging the crowd (other than mentioning in a radio interview) and the late cancellation of his appearance at the VIP meeting does disrespect us.
    What about the disrespect the fans showed him?

    I think both sides could learn from ain't and do better, after all we love the club and he works for it