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Congrats to Kasey Palmer

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  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,017
    Chelsea currently have 85 players out on loan.
  • If Mourinho doesn't think the likes of Schurrle, de Bruyne and Salah are good enough for his Chelsea side, then you really can't see much hope for the likes of Palmer.

    Similar situation at Man City. If a club can spend 25-30m on a player then they're not likely to be giving much game time to a kid.

    Unless a kid bursts through at 17-18 who is genuinely brilliant at that age, like Rooney was, then they're not getting in the team.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,815

    If Mourinho doesn't think the likes of Schurrle, de Bruyne and Salah are good enough for his Chelsea side, then you really can't see much hope for the likes of Palmer.

    Similar situation at Man City. If a club can spend 25-30m on a player then they're not likely to be giving much game time to a kid.

    Unless a kid bursts through at 17-18 who is genuinely brilliant at that age, like Rooney was, then they're not getting in the team.

    Tend to agree though there is the odd exception like Harry Kane who didn't make his Premier League debut until last April when he was three months short of his 21st - and less than a year later is being talked in terms of playing for England.
  • If Mourinho doesn't think the likes of Schurrle, de Bruyne and Salah are good enough for his Chelsea side, then you really can't see much hope for the likes of Palmer.

    Similar situation at Man City. If a club can spend 25-30m on a player then they're not likely to be giving much game time to a kid.

    Unless a kid bursts through at 17-18 who is genuinely brilliant at that age, like Rooney was, then they're not getting in the team.

    This is the thing... One of the Directors where I work is a passionate Chelsea fan and asked him the other day about Kasey Palmer, reckons he's a good lad and is doing well for their U21s at the moment, I turned round and said that he should have stayed with Charlton as he'd be in our first team now and got... "Well the Chelsea Academy is the best place to learn as they've state of the art facilities and is one of the best academies around".

    I didnt bother to reply as knew it would be pointless but whats the point of all these magnificent buildings... All Chelsea are doing is making these young players soft, i.e. the Chelsea goalkeeper made a mistake to give Spurs their first goal the other night but can he seriously think that he's going to dislodge someone like Courtois?
  • If Mourinho doesn't think the likes of Schurrle, de Bruyne and Salah are good enough for his Chelsea side, then you really can't see much hope for the likes of Palmer.

    Similar situation at Man City. If a club can spend 25-30m on a player then they're not likely to be giving much game time to a kid.

    Unless a kid bursts through at 17-18 who is genuinely brilliant at that age, like Rooney was, then they're not getting in the team.

    Tend to agree though there is the odd exception like Harry Kane who didn't make his Premier League debut until last April when he was three months short of his 21st - and less than a year later is being talked in terms of playing for England.
    Kane would never have broken through at Chelsea IMO.
  • Addick in SW16
    Addick in SW16 Posts: 1,421
    edited March 2015
    Only time will tell of he made the right decision, but ultimately, we'll never know. At Chelsea I'm sure he'll say that he is learning from the very best in the world and that he has developed immensely as a footballer technically and mentally. He could well be playing first-team football now, but maybe that is overrated at his young age and (just playing devil's advocate) it could well be good for him to develop his talent away from the rigours and spotlight of first-team football so soon? If he is playing with the likes of Loftus Cheek etc., he may well be playing with and learning from technically superior albeit, less experienced footballers than he would have at Charlton? I'm sure that improving your ability and being the best you can possibly be will be an aspiration of most footballers along with (perhaps later on) first-team football, winning trophies etc. Just a thought.
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,004
    At least when he leaves Chelsea and joins another club, he will have trained with the best
  • hudson-son-son
    hudson-son-son Posts: 2,645


    Not bad
  • Ok I guess.
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    Would've definitely be in and around the first team here by now in my opinion. Shame.

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  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,659
    If there wasn't so much bad blood over his departure we'd be the obvious club to loan him to next season. We might even get him back permanently if Chelsea turn Gomez's head.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,231

    Would've definitely be in and around the first team here by now in my opinion. Shame.

    The last English Player to come through the youth teams and play regular for the 1st team at Chelsea was John Terry !

    So they seem to have a fantastic U18 and U21 team but they won't be playing for the 1st team anytime soon.

    The Chelsea Triangle 16 years old and counting.

  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,234
    Perhaps most of the U18 and U21 aren't English anyway.

    Saw a bit of the Youth Cup Final first leg against Man City and not many English names being mentioned on either side.

  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,004
    That is class, look at the desk and walls, you can see it is a premier club, not the storeroom we use to sign players
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,670
    edited February 2016
    ross1 said:

    That is class, look at the desk and walls, you can see it is a premier club, not the storeroom we use to sign players
    Think, we're going for the Liverpool boot room route.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,017
    ross1 said:

    That is class, look at the desk and walls, you can see it is a premier club, not the storeroom we use to sign players
    It looks like my mate's outside games room (shed).
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    Wait for the new training ground and we'll have a pucker "document signing room"

    Anyway - ours was miles better than Jordan Rhodes's dark alley at Boro
  • PL54
    PL54 Posts: 10,757
    It will be a very long long journey Kasey
  • bertpalmer
    bertpalmer Posts: 1,774
    Wait for the new training ground and we'll have a pucker "loan document signing room"

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  • cafc999
    cafc999 Posts: 4,968
    "long journey" & "hard work don't stop" Kasey?

    Yep, by the time you stop your hard work and finish your long journey you would have probably played about zero times for the Chelsea first team and then realised what you have wasted.
  • Is an interesting one this. Has been told he won't go out on loan despite requesting to do so. In order to appease him they doubled his wages.
  • smiffyboy
    smiffyboy Posts: 4,314

    Is an interesting one this. Has been told he won't go out on loan despite requesting to do so. In order to appease him they doubled his wages.

    And chucked in a Swedish log cabin
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,834
    Which one is he?
  • The one in Glasses
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,594
    cafc999 said:

    "long journey" & "hard work don't stop" Kasey?

    Yep, by the time you stop your hard work and finish your long journey you would have probably played about zero times for the Chelsea first team and then realised what you have wasted.

    But he'll be a few million richer than you and I
  • mart77
    mart77 Posts: 5,658

    cafc999 said:

    "long journey" & "hard work don't stop" Kasey?

    Yep, by the time you stop your hard work and finish your long journey you would have probably played about zero times for the Chelsea first team and then realised what you have wasted.

    But he'll be a few million richer than you and I
    That won't matter squat if he looks back at the end of his life with regrets about his choices. Money isn't everything despite what too many people seem to think these days. (Not a dig at you Large)
  • Simonsen
    Simonsen Posts: 5,506
    ross1 said:

    That is class, look at the desk and walls, you can see it is a premier club, not the storeroom we use to sign players
    Yeah and they've even let him sit with the old groundsman while he signs....
  • On Sunday supplement on TV Journo John Richardson said some of Chelseas development squad were on £20000 a week
  • Around 12k for Kasey