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Bikey "The Beast"

Most agree that after a great start to the season, Bikey tailed off somewhat with many centre back combinations following.
I note our squad on saturday had no less than SIX centre halves included, which appeared crazy.
If, I read a big target man is required to change our approach and style, why did we not use Bikey as such in the last couple of games? After all he is a handfull and poor Igor was getting battered hopelessly jumping without any threat to, dare I say it, longer balls
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  • East_Stand_Loopy
    East_Stand_Loopy Posts: 2,205

    Most agree that after a great start to the season, Bikey tailed off somewhat with many centre back combinations following.
    I note our squad on saturday had no less than SIX centre halves included, which appeared crazy.
    If, I read a big target man is required to change our approach and style, why did we not use Bikey as such in the last couple of games? After all he is a handfull and poor Igor was getting battered hopelessly jumping without any threat to, dare I say it, longer balls

    I think there is a simple answer to this.

    It was tried a number of times when we were chasing games this season.

    It didn't work, because he is crap at it...
  • fair enough!
  • Davo55
    Davo55 Posts: 7,857
    Ok in a desperate "throw everything at 'em" when we badly need a goal in the last 5 minutes. Otherwise, much prefer to play players and their best/natural positions.
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,900
    edited May 2015

    Most agree that after a great start to the season, Bikey tailed off somewhat with many centre back combinations following.
    I note our squad on saturday had no less than SIX centre halves included, which appeared crazy.
    If, I read a big target man is required to change our approach and style, why did we not use Bikey as such in the last couple of games? After all he is a handfull and poor Igor was getting battered hopelessly jumping without any threat to, dare I say it, longer balls

    I think there is a simple answer to this.

    It was tried a number of times when we were chasing games this season.

    It didn't work, because he is crap at it...
    Except at Huddersfield where he had an assist for our late equaliser. He was only tried up front by Big Bob for the last five or ten minutes or so in a few games but I'm sure you'll correct me if I'm wrong. Fair observation @SomersetAddick and would have been worth a try but this clearly did not appeal to Luzon especially as his favoured pairing soon became Watt and Igor with Eagles or Church preferred as substitutions.
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,859
    Anyone remember when Eddie Youds went up front at Wimbledon ?
  • East_Stand_Loopy
    East_Stand_Loopy Posts: 2,205
    I can't remember what game it was at the Valley, but I distinctly remember us planting Bikey up front late on.

    The ball fell to him inside the penalty area, and with practically the last kick of the game, he had a chance to score...

    I may be exaggerating, but I believe the person in the upper tier of the North Stand with the ball shaped haemotoema in the face eventually recovered...
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 29,003
    Two reasons why not;
    Phil and Chapple
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,394
    He's a better player on the deck than he gets credit for IMO.
  • Davo55
    Davo55 Posts: 7,857
    He is a big, big fella - nearly blocked out everything else when he walked in at the POTY dinner. Surprisingly friendly, smiling guy - very different from the scowling aggressive looking guy we see on the pitch.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,194
    Not sure I like the whole "the beast" stuff

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  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,900
    Davo55 said:

    He is a big, big fella - nearly blocked out everything else when he walked in at the POTY dinner. Surprisingly friendly, smiling guy - very different from the scowling aggressive looking guy we see on the pitch.

    Split personality, bit like me :wink:
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,240
    Davo55 said:

    He is a big, big fella - nearly blocked out everything else when he walked in at the POTY dinner. Surprisingly friendly, smiling guy - very different from the scowling aggressive looking guy we see on the pitch.

    Exactly what I thought. He couldn't have been more smiling and pleasant.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,180
    Davo55 said:

    He is a big, big fella - nearly blocked out everything else when he walked in at the POTY dinner. Surprisingly friendly, smiling guy - very different from the scowling aggressive looking guy we see on the pitch.

    I've heard good things about Bikey and his attitude around the club. Even on matchdays when hes not involved.
  • East_Stand_Loopy
    East_Stand_Loopy Posts: 2,205
    The most successful case of a centre back going up front I can remember was in League 1.

    We were down to 9 men by half time. (Burton had been sent off for 2 yellows, I can't remember who the other who had been sent off was. Dailly?)

    The infamous Miguel Plata was sent up top. Sounded ridiculous, until the ball came to him in the dying seconds of the game. Big Mig ran on to it, and chipped it into the far corner in a finish that Darren Bent would have been proud of..
  • East_Stand_Loopy
    East_Stand_Loopy Posts: 2,205
    Sorry Damn spell checker! Llera!
  • East_Stand_Loopy
    East_Stand_Loopy Posts: 2,205
    Davo55 said:

    He is a big, big fella - nearly blocked out everything else when he walked in at the POTY dinner. Surprisingly friendly, smiling guy - very different from the scowling aggressive looking guy we see on the pitch.

    I bought I signed photo of him from the Museum. (Complete with certificate of authenticity!)

    I couldn't resist it. Man the size of a small house in a black shirt, giving a thumbs up, with a smile as big as big as a pair of French Windows...
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,492

    The most successful case of a centre back going up front I can remember was in League 1.

    We were down to 9 men by half time. (Burton had been sent off for 2 yellows, I can't remember who the other who had been sent off was. Dailly?)

    The infamous Miguel Plata was sent up top. Sounded ridiculous, until the ball came to him in the dying seconds of the game. Big Mig ran on to it, and chipped it into the far corner in a finish that Darren Bent would have been proud of..

    I was there and remember none of this. Sure you didn't make it up?










    (S Sodje btw)
  • East_Stand_Loopy
    East_Stand_Loopy Posts: 2,205
    Leuth said:

    The most successful case of a centre back going up front I can remember was in League 1.

    We were down to 9 men by half time. (Burton had been sent off for 2 yellows, I can't remember who the other who had been sent off was. Dailly?)

    The infamous Miguel Plata was sent up top. Sounded ridiculous, until the ball came to him in the dying seconds of the game. Big Mig ran on to it, and chipped it into the far corner in a finish that Darren Bent would have been proud of..

    I was there and remember none of this. Sure you didn't make it up?









    (S Sodje btw)
    Thank you. If you look at Sodje's record, it's obvious really.

    (It was a cracking finish by Llera though!)
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 96,045

    I can't remember what game it was at the Valley, but I distinctly remember us planting Bikey up front late on.

    The ball fell to him inside the penalty area, and with practically the last kick of the game, he had a chance to score...

    I may be exaggerating, but I believe the person in the upper tier of the North Stand with the ball shaped haemotoema in the face eventually recovered...

    Was either the match against Blackpool or Rotherham where he hit it over the bar... Was an open goal too
  • I can't remember what game it was at the Valley, but I distinctly remember us planting Bikey up front late on.

    The ball fell to him inside the penalty area, and with practically the last kick of the game, he had a chance to score...

    I may be exaggerating, but I believe the person in the upper tier of the North Stand with the ball shaped haemotoema in the face eventually recovered...

    Was either the match against Blackpool or Rotherham where he hit it over the bar... Was an open goal too
    Blackpool

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  • AC
    AC Posts: 85

    Leuth said:

    The most successful case of a centre back going up front I can remember was in League 1.

    We were down to 9 men by half time. (Burton had been sent off for 2 yellows, I can't remember who the other who had been sent off was. Dailly?)

    The infamous Miguel Plata was sent up top. Sounded ridiculous, until the ball came to him in the dying seconds of the game. Big Mig ran on to it, and chipped it into the far corner in a finish that Darren Bent would have been proud of..

    I was there and remember none of this. Sure you didn't make it up?









    (S Sodje btw)
    Thank you. If you look at Sodje's record, it's obvious really.

    (It was a cracking finish by Llera though!)
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_2/8416448.stm

    I'm sure this was the one against swindon?
  • SheedyCAFC
    SheedyCAFC Posts: 1,275
    Andre Bikey has a great pass on him and very good on the floor, great pace for his age and an all round beast. He could even slot into a defensive midfield role if needed.

    Which begs the question 'why would Guy Luzon play Roger Johnson ahead of Bikey?'

    Even if Andre has an attitude problem I'd rather him than Roger.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 64,267
    edited May 2015
    Look at Norwich's third goal at the Valley earlier this season. That's a prime example of why Bikey doesn't play under Luzon.

    Caught out high up the pitch and didn't put in the effort to stick with the onrushing Jerome to put pressure on his headed attempt at goal.

    He's a liability on the pitch unfortunately.
  • SheedyCAFC
    SheedyCAFC Posts: 1,275

    Look at Norwich's third goal at the Valley earlier this season. That's a prime example of why Bikey doesn't play under Luzon.

    Caught out high up the pitch and didn't put in the effort to stick with the onrushing Jerome to put pressure on his headed attempt at goal.

    He's a liability on the pitch unfortunately.

    First 10 games of the season I'd say he was our best player besides Igor!
  • East_Stand_Loopy
    East_Stand_Loopy Posts: 2,205

    Look at Norwich's third goal at the Valley earlier this season. That's a prime example of why Bikey doesn't play under Luzon.

    Caught out high up the pitch and didn't put in the effort to stick with the onrushing Jerome to put pressure on his headed attempt at goal.

    He's a liability on the pitch unfortunately.

    First 10 games of the season I'd say he was our best player besides Igor!
    Unfortunately, the season lasts 46 games. Being our best player for the first 20% of the season doesn't win you any prizes.
  • SEFREE
    SEFREE Posts: 103

    Andre Bikey has a great pass on him and very good on the floor, great pace for his age and an all round beast. He could even slot into a defensive midfield role if needed.

    Which begs the question 'why would Guy Luzon play Roger Johnson ahead of Bikey?'

    Even if Andre has an attitude problem I'd rather him than Roger.

    yep. agree. Johnson appears to be a liability.

  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 64,267

    Look at Norwich's third goal at the Valley earlier this season. That's a prime example of why Bikey doesn't play under Luzon.

    Caught out high up the pitch and didn't put in the effort to stick with the onrushing Jerome to put pressure on his headed attempt at goal.

    He's a liability on the pitch unfortunately.

    First 10 games of the season I'd say he was our best player besides Igor!
    He was. But we've heard similar reports from Middlesbrough and Burnley fans. Brilliant starts to the season but concentration begins to seriously tail off, especially over the course of 46 games.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,194
    So I'm just watching the highlights of Bikey's new team Northeast United vs David Platt's FC Pune and he's still a big man, possibly bigger than when he was with us...
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,194
    ...but he's just scored a goal...
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,194
    ...and performed a full summersault !