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Joe Gomez rumours (ed. Signed for Liverpool)

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  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,060
    Weird - is this the first time we're hearing about this release clause ?
  • tricky
    tricky Posts: 1,291
    First time it's come up today - Obviously Cawley wasn't aware of it when he was getting our hopes up with talk of an initial £5-6m earlier in the week.
  • redlanered
    redlanered Posts: 2,199
    Just because there's a release clause @£3.5m doesn't mean that's the price he's going for. Liverpool will be aware that there will be plenty of takers at that lower price, and may have agreed to a bigger number in order to avoid a bidding war. Let's see how this plays out (though it may be years before we ever know what we really get/got)
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,620
    but there is no bidding war if they have triggered the release clause and Joe wants to go there. makes no difference then what other offers there are and how high etc.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,060
    tricky said:

    First time it's come up today - Obviously Cawley wasn't aware of it when he was getting our hopes up with talk of an initial £5-6m earlier in the week.

    Or - just being devils advocate- it's all we could get for him so is a convenient way to keep Charlton fans from kicking off that we didn't get the £10-12m that some were hoping for.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,422
    oohaahmortimer said:

    can't believe yet another player didn't want to give all their value to our club
    these agents are shrewd hence we get minimum for a decent player

    Not surprising really
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,422
    LargeAddick said:

    but there is no bidding war if they have triggered the release clause and Joe wants to go there. makes no difference then what other offers there are and how high etc.

    depends if there's somewhere else he may want to go?
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,134
    Someone at the club (KM or RM) need to confirm if it's true about the release clause. That is stupidly low.
  • BowieAddick
    BowieAddick Posts: 1,192
    Or there isn't a release clause at all and The Mirror just got it wrong
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,060
    The Red Robin said:

    Someone at the club (KM or RM) need to confirm if it's true about the release clause. That is stupidly low.

    Did he sign his most recent contract under this regime or the one before it ?

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  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,378
    redlanered said:

    Just because there's a release clause @£3.5m doesn't mean that's the price he's going for. Liverpool will be aware that there will be plenty of takers at that lower price, and may have agreed to a bigger number in order to avoid a bidding war. Let's see how this plays out (though it may be years before we ever know what we really get/got)

    presumably a release clause states that any bid of or more than the agreed figure in the clause will mean that the player can move should he decide to do so.
    If, for example, Liverpool bid 3.5 mllion and Southampton 5 million, Gomez can choose either club. CAFC however cannot hold out for the larger amount bid by Southampton because Liverpool have bid the amount agreed in the release clause.
    But it all depends on the actual wording of the clause in the contract

  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,134
    se9addick said:

    The Red Robin said:

    Someone at the club (KM or RM) need to confirm if it's true about the release clause. That is stupidly low.

    Did he sign his most recent contract under this regime or the one before it ?
    October last year, so this regime.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29522092
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,168
    The Red Robin said:

    Someone at the club (KM or RM) need to confirm if it's true about the release clause. That is stupidly low.

    Large answered that on the previous page TRR:

    "maybe it was the best we could get him to agree to. If we had insisted on say 6m then he may not have signed his last contract."
  • Hovi's Biscuit
    Hovi's Biscuit Posts: 1,717
    Greenie said:

    GreenWithEnvy said:

    Lincsaddick said:

    Playing devil's advocate here .. forget the emotions that Cousins and Gomez are 'ones of our own' .. IF they were both sold for (say) around £9/10 million, that would buy us five or six hardened, talented, experienced, proven championship players and could be the start of a very successful era for the club. I think we know that the owner is not going to splash too much of his own/network money on new players, but he will probably loosen the purse strings if a BIG sum was forthcoming from player sales

    We all know Roly doesn't go down that road!
    Really? Roger Johnson, Chris Eagles, Tal Ben Haim, add to that the quality of Tony Watt and JBG, and it kind of pisses on your fireworks.
    Also we had to wait until January before Johnson and Eagles arrived. Hopefully lessons have been learned, but anything seems to be possible
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,488
    There is no bidding war past £3.5m, the clubs know Charlton have to accept at that price. What's the point bidding £5m now? It's a loss of £1.5m for zero gain.

    The only bidding war now is what wages clubs will offer Gomez to join them.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,134
    edited June 2015
    Algarveaddick said:

    The Red Robin said:

    Someone at the club (KM or RM) need to confirm if it's true about the release clause. That is stupidly low.

    Large answered that on the previous page TRR:

    "maybe it was the best we could get him to agree to. If we had insisted on say 6m then he may not have signed his last contract."
    Shame if true. Bullied into a low release clause by a teenager and his agent.

    Edit: 'Liverpool have triggered a release clause in the Charlton Athletic defender’s contract, which will enable them to sign him for an initial £3.5m which will likely rise to £6m on appearances.'

  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,620
    instead the Club should have bullied a teenager and his Dad into agreeing a trigger clause that could have prevented him from a dream move. Pleese.
  • Bryan_Kynsie
    Bryan_Kynsie Posts: 2,179
    Why do we never hear of a "first refusal on a loan-back" clause? This would soften the blow a bit if it meant we had him back for a while rather than watching him being loaned to a rival. Whats the betting he gets loaned to Fulham or QPR?
  • I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY
    I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY Posts: 4,609
    Rich Cawley just tweeted that its untrue about the £3.5m as it would have been done and dusted by now.
  • foxjam
    foxjam Posts: 208
    I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY said:

    Rich Cawley just tweeted that its untrue about the £3.5m as it would have been done and dusted by now.

    I really hope he's right.

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  • I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY
    I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY Posts: 4,609
    foxjam said:

    I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY said:

    Rich Cawley just tweeted that its untrue about the £3.5m as it would have been done and dusted by now.

    I really hope he's right.
    I believe what he is saying.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,134
    Would we want him back on loan though? He's no longer ours. I'd rather give that space in the team to one of our own.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,488
    edited June 2015
    The Red Robin said:

    Would we want him back on loan though? He's no longer ours. I'd rather give that space in the team to one of our own.

    We do need a centre back or two...and he's better than our other players.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,134
    SELR_addicks said:

    The Red Robin said:

    Would we want him back on loan though? He's no longer ours. I'd rather give that space in the team to one of our own.

    We do need a centre back or two...and he's better than our other players.
    At the moment he is. We only have one other centre back! I'd rather us try and get permanent signings in first.
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,008
    The Red Robin said:

    SELR_addicks said:

    The Red Robin said:

    Would we want him back on loan though? He's no longer ours. I'd rather give that space in the team to one of our own.

    We do need a centre back or two...and he's better than our other players.
    At the moment he is. We only have one other centre back! I'd rather us try and get permanent signings in first.
    If you are meaning Bikey, he is on his way out, if you mean Gomez, say no more, that only leaves Lennon, if you know of any one else please tell
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,759
    I'd like to see better than Bikey come in before we ship him out btw.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,134
    ross1 said:

    The Red Robin said:

    SELR_addicks said:

    The Red Robin said:

    Would we want him back on loan though? He's no longer ours. I'd rather give that space in the team to one of our own.

    We do need a centre back or two...and he's better than our other players.
    At the moment he is. We only have one other centre back! I'd rather us try and get permanent signings in first.
    If you are meaning Bikey, he is on his way out, if you mean Gomez, say no more, that only leaves Lennon, if you know of any one else please tell
    I meant Bikey yeah, but gather he is on his way out. I assume Bauer is coming in. We already needed at least two CBs before releasing Johnson and Ben Haim. Let's hope it's a busy summer for Charlton in terms of incomings.
  • nth_london_addick
    nth_london_addick Posts: 35,919
    Why does someone at the club need to discuss with anyone the size of the release clause in any players contract other than the player and his representatives, why Is 3.5 Mil ridiculously low seems fine to me, remember the release clause is not the amount the player can be sold for, it's the amount of money that the club will allow you the buyer to enter in to negotiations to sign the player, Luís Suarez had a 40 Mil clause arsenal bid 40 Mil and a penny, yet the scousers wanted double that hence why he ain't a goonershite,

    There's a lot of panic talk on here, Joe gomez could have left for fuck all but done the decent thing and signed, if the club had to place such things into the contract to get him to sign in the first place that's great advisory by his representive and savvy enough for the club to commit to it

  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,743
    nth london addick said:

    Why does someone at the club need to discuss with anyone the size of the release clause in any players contract other than the player and his representatives, why Is 3.5 Mil ridiculously low seems fine to me, remember the release clause is not the amount the player can be sold for, it's the amount of money that the club will allow you the buyer to enter in to negotiations to sign the player, Luís Suarez had a 40 Mil clause arsenal bid 40 Mil and a penny, yet the scousers wanted double that hence why he ain't a goonershite,

    There's a lot of panic talk on here, Joe gomez could have left for fuck all but done the decent thing and signed, if the club had to place such things into the contract to get him to sign in the first place that's great advisory by his representive and savvy enough for the club to commit to it

    Good to see you have your "Mr Sensible " Head on today, NLA

    :smiley:

  • nth_london_addick
    nth_london_addick Posts: 35,919
    Not for long fanny, I can feel a bit of sunshine and cider taking hold very soon

    Plus I think personally Joe gomez has not done anything wrong and has treated us in a respectable way and deserves the chance to become the player that it is obvious to all he will become ,

    Poyet walked for very little in fact a negligible amount , jenkinson done a decent thing and didn't go down the tribunal route , Shelvey signed and done the decent thing although I believe the fact we were desperate for cash was shown in the negs and we got less than we should ,

    It's obviously not as cut and dry as many reports are saying due to how long it's taking , I wouldn't be surprised if there are several clubs trying to get in on the deal and will be offering all sorts to both Joe and the club to secure his services but ultimately the player will decide on the destination it's down to the club to secure the best amount of money based on joes decision ,

    He is a young player with potential to be a super star , but as a defender it's very unlikely that anyone will go to the levels like a Walcott or oxlade chamberlain style fee which some are looking for strikers and attacking players cost more and go for bigger fees than defenders unless you are the best there is and have been for a while

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