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Joe Gomez rumours (ed. Signed for Liverpool)
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The big thing for me here is whether we've got a sell on clause. If Joe turns out to be the megastar we hope, Liverpool won't be able to hang on to him either and the even bigger boys will pay a kings ransom. Now if it's, say, 15% of any profit and he goes for, I don't know, 30million, that gives us about 4 million more if he went for an initial 3.5.
All guesswork of course, I don't pretend to be in the know at all, but I hope we'll see a headline about a massive windfall for Charlton in about 4 or 5 years time.
Of course, we want funds now, but more money a bit further down the line can't hurt can it?3 -
Sadly he is too good for us at the present time. Good luck Joe, hoping to see you in an England shirt before too long.0
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Hugely frustrating to see 3.5m figure being bounded about as fact. Totally incorrect.... #cafc Olly Groom1
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Did Joe sign his 3 year deal before he'd played a first team game ?
Was Poyet only offered a shorter deal at that stage ?
Was it only once Poyet started smashing it up that a new deal was offered
If Joe was in the same position would he have signed the charity contract for us or gone the same route as Poyet
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I blame modern technology. No wonder pubs are closing on a frequent basis these days.nth london addick said:Never have we had such a divided fan Base
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Laters Joe0
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Question about this undisclosed fee business, will these figures eventually come out in the wash when the accounts are published or are they all aggregated up in in a Chuck Blazer sort of way so that it would take the FBI to unravel it?0
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In my eyes the deal fell exactly how the club expected.
They offered a contract to the lad and he signed (thank you joe)
He could have walked last year but stuck it out for year got us our fee and moved
It was never in question of if he moved more when
He done good by us and I wish him the best more than can be said of matey at West Ham21 -
Spot on mate0
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What is the difference between Gomez and Poyet though? Both signed their first contracts the club gave them, neither stayed long enough to sign a second one and both played 20 games and had big impacts. Only difference to me is that with Poyet we did not play him early enough and by the time we did his contract was almost up.CAFCBourne said:In my eyes the deal fell exactly how the club expected.
They offered a contract to the lad and he signed (thank you joe)
He could have walked last year but stuck it out for year got us our fee and moved
It was never in question of if he moved more when
He done good by us and I wish him the best more than can be said of matey at West Ham
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Gomez didn't start gobbing off like a little prick on Twitter about 'the truth'. Poyet did.oohaahmortimer said:Did Joe sign his 3 year deal before he'd played a first team game ?
Was Poyet only offered a shorter deal at that stage ?
Was it only once Poyet started smashing it up that a new deal was offered
If Joe was in the same position would he have signed the charity contract for us or gone the same route as Poyet4 -
See my last postAthletico Charlton said:
What is the difference between Gomez and Poyet though? Both signed their first contracts the club gave them, neither stayed long enough to sign a second one and both played 20 games and had big impacts. Only difference to me is that with Poyet we did not play him early enough and by the time we did his contract was almost up.CAFCBourne said:In my eyes the deal fell exactly how the club expected.
They offered a contract to the lad and he signed (thank you joe)
He could have walked last year but stuck it out for year got us our fee and moved
It was never in question of if he moved more when
He done good by us and I wish him the best more than can be said of matey at West Ham0 -
When Poyet left he got dogs abuse before the tweets though which Joe does not seem to have got so not sure I buy that.Greenie Junior said:
See my last postAthletico Charlton said:
What is the difference between Gomez and Poyet though? Both signed their first contracts the club gave them, neither stayed long enough to sign a second one and both played 20 games and had big impacts. Only difference to me is that with Poyet we did not play him early enough and by the time we did his contract was almost up.CAFCBourne said:In my eyes the deal fell exactly how the club expected.
They offered a contract to the lad and he signed (thank you joe)
He could have walked last year but stuck it out for year got us our fee and moved
It was never in question of if he moved more when
He done good by us and I wish him the best more than can be said of matey at West Ham0 -
Joe signed a deal that meant if someone wanted him they had to buy him, Poyet didn't7
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Facts have never stopped Charlton fans from moaning like girls before. It won't stop them believing what suits their opinions now.ross1 said:Hugely frustrating to see 3.5m figure being bounded about as fact. Totally incorrect.... #cafc Olly Groom
RD out.
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They both signed one deal. End of. If we hadn't played Gomez for the first 2.5 years of his then played him for 20 games right at the end and suddenly realised he was fantastic and Liverpool came knocking then do you really think he would have signed another one?nth london addick said:Joe signed a deal that meant if someone wanted him they had to buy him, Poyet didn't
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Joe Gomez is class, both as a player and a young man. T o believe that he jumped at the first offer of big bucks is wrong. If we were a well run club with an owner showing ambition he would have stayed another year. If he was only interested in the short-term pay-out he would have left a year ago. In the end he did what was best for himself.9
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We paid 2.5m for Francis Jeffers and now sell Joe Gomez for 3.5m
When will this madness ever end10 -
As well as Joe has behaved I just don't believe that.andynelson said:Joe Gomez is class, both as a player and a young man. T o believe that he jumped at the first offer of big bucks is wrong. If we were a well run club with an owner showing ambition he would have stayed another year. If he was only interested in the short-term pay-out he would have left a year ago. In the end he did what was best for himself.
As soon as Liverpool showed interest we were now only concentrating on the best deal possible. RD could have gone out and still purchased 2 or 3 quality players and JG still would have wanted to go. Thats the feeling I get from his interviews.5 -
Jeffers had some ability but obviously enjoyed the booze more than he enjoyed trainingoohaahmortimer said:We paid 2.5m for Francis Jeffers and now sell Joe Gomez for 3.5m
When will this madness ever end0 -
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No point in ever expecting transfers in or out to have a consistency... Why not compared Jeffers with Darren Bent... Jeffers looks absurdly expensive against that benchmark, and DB looks a steal against Gomez...oohaahmortimer said:We paid 2.5m for Francis Jeffers and now sell Joe Gomez for 3.5m
When will this madness ever end0 -
Loaned to Derby? Havent read all the posts, but why haven't we had him back on loan?0
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No, sorry, these are two different situations. Diego received a deal when he was young and nowhere near the squad. He then broke into the squad at a time when we couldn't even renew our first team players' contracts. Subsequently we were able to offer new contracts when Roland came in and Diego stuck two fingers up and walked away with his POTY trophy for peanuts having given us half a season. Once Joe started appearing in the team it was clear as day we wouldn't have him for long, and he was in a situation where he knew big teams would come in for him and he still signed his deal.Athletico Charlton said:
They both signed one deal. End of. If we hadn't played Gomez for the first 2.5 years of his then played him for 20 games right at the end and suddenly realised he was fantastic and Liverpool came knocking then do you really think he would have signed another one?nth london addick said:Joe signed a deal that meant if someone wanted him they had to buy him, Poyet didn't
It's not about the number of deals the players signed, it's about the stage of development they were at. Both players reached the point where they were ready to break into the first team, and one agreed to secure a decent deal for us knowing he would move on and the other decided he wasn't too bothered about that. Which was his choice, but let's not pretend that they both made the same decision.4 -
No, sorry, these are two different situations. Diego received a deal when he was young and nowhere near the squad. He then broke into the squad at a time when we couldn't even renew our first team players' contracts. Subsequently we were able to offer new contracts when Roland came in and Diego stuck two fingers up and walked away with his POTY trophy for peanuts having given us half a season. Once Joe started appearing in the team it was clear as day we wouldn't have him for long, and he was in a situation where he knew big teams would come in for him and he still signed his deal.Athletico Charlton said:
They both signed one deal. End of. If we hadn't played Gomez for the first 2.5 years of his then played him for 20 games right at the end and suddenly realised he was fantastic and Liverpool came knocking then do you really think he would have signed another one?nth london addick said:Joe signed a deal that meant if someone wanted him they had to buy him, Poyet didn't
It's not about the number of deals the players signed, it's about the stage of development they were at. Both players reached the point where they were ready to break into the first team, and one agreed to secure a decent deal for us knowing he would move on and the other decided he wasn't too bothered about that. Which was his choice, but let's not pretend that they both made the same decision.0 -
Has someone just made up this 'loan to Derby' crap out of thin air, and now everyone thinks it's gonna happen????0
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Reported by the BBC and the press.ValleyGary said:Has someone just made up this 'loan to Derby' crap out of thin air, and now everyone thinks it's gonna happen????
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2.5m for Jeffers??? We never learn do we?oohaahmortimer said:We paid 2.5m for Francis Jeffers and now sell Joe Gomez for 3.5m
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They both signed one deal when young men (aged 17). One stayed the entire length of his contract so could be argued he was the more loyal of the two yet he gets the abuse.Garrymanilow said:
No, sorry, these are two different situations. Diego received a deal when he was young and nowhere near the squad. He then broke into the squad at a time when we couldn't even renew our first team players' contracts. Subsequently we were able to offer new contracts when Roland came in and Diego stuck two fingers up and walked away with his POTY trophy for peanuts having given us half a season. Once Joe started appearing in the team it was clear as day we wouldn't have him for long, and he was in a situation where he knew big teams would come in for him and he still signed his deal.Athletico Charlton said:
They both signed one deal. End of. If we hadn't played Gomez for the first 2.5 years of his then played him for 20 games right at the end and suddenly realised he was fantastic and Liverpool came knocking then do you really think he would have signed another one?nth london addick said:Joe signed a deal that meant if someone wanted him they had to buy him, Poyet didn't
It's not about the number of deals the players signed, it's about the stage of development they were at. Both players reached the point where they were ready to break into the first team, and one agreed to secure a decent deal for us knowing he would move on and the other decided he wasn't too bothered about that. Which was his choice, but let's not pretend that they both made the same decision.
(I am by no means having a go at JG who I have no problem, just pointing out a certain hypocrisy).2 -
Hmmmm they also reported 3.5mThe Red Robin said:
Reported by the BBC and the press.ValleyGary said:Has someone just made up this 'loan to Derby' crap out of thin air, and now everyone thinks it's gonna happen????
I honestly think half the time they just take 'itk rumours' from forums.2 -
Surely their age isn't the deciding factor here, it's how close they were to the 1st team when they signed their new deals.Athletico Charlton said:
They both signed one deal when young men (aged 17). One stayed the entire length of his contract so could be argued he was the more loyal of the two yet he gets the abuse.Garrymanilow said:
No, sorry, these are two different situations. Diego received a deal when he was young and nowhere near the squad. He then broke into the squad at a time when we couldn't even renew our first team players' contracts. Subsequently we were able to offer new contracts when Roland came in and Diego stuck two fingers up and walked away with his POTY trophy for peanuts having given us half a season. Once Joe started appearing in the team it was clear as day we wouldn't have him for long, and he was in a situation where he knew big teams would come in for him and he still signed his deal.Athletico Charlton said:
They both signed one deal. End of. If we hadn't played Gomez for the first 2.5 years of his then played him for 20 games right at the end and suddenly realised he was fantastic and Liverpool came knocking then do you really think he would have signed another one?nth london addick said:Joe signed a deal that meant if someone wanted him they had to buy him, Poyet didn't
It's not about the number of deals the players signed, it's about the stage of development they were at. Both players reached the point where they were ready to break into the first team, and one agreed to secure a decent deal for us knowing he would move on and the other decided he wasn't too bothered about that. Which was his choice, but let's not pretend that they both made the same decision.
(I am by no means having a go at JG who I have no problem, just pointing out a certain hypocrisy).0
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