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LenGlover
LenGlover Posts: 31,661
edited March 2008 in General Charlton
I and some others of a certain age bang on about how much we appreciated and enjoyed the Curbishley years even if some of the football was cautious.

Some people have added today's game to their worst 10 on that thread but today was like countless "second" division matches we suffered in the 60s and 70s in particular. If I closed my eyes and imagined The Valley as it used to be Halford and Sodje could have been Les Berry and Peter Shaw in all their glory. Back then though there was a fair chance Killer, Flash or Paddy could conjure something up.

I don't mind the team losing to a better side providing the effort is there but today, in my opinion, only Weaver, Holland Mc Carthy, Varney and (wait for it!) Youga can hold their heads up.

Youga made some howlers but he didn't hide and kept trying unlike some of the others. I respect that.

As for Sinclair get him back to Chelsea as soon as. He offers nothing that Sam and Thomas don't. In fact if anything he is even lazier than Jerome!

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  • nolly
    nolly Posts: 12,122
    what is it len with this lightweight players he gets? wispy nothing players.
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,756
    [cite]Posted By: nolly[/cite]what is it len with this lightweight players he gets? wispy nothing players.

    It's called lack of motivation. Weight's got nothing to do with it (as Doc Brown once said)
  • northstandsteve
    northstandsteve Posts: 14,332
    I agree Len mid table premier league any day.I disagree about Youga and i sat close to the pitch today,Holland tried but was bloody awful,ZZ was streets the best Charlton player by a mile
  • PeakieRocket
    PeakieRocket Posts: 2,420
    Send Halford back while we're at it - surely Moo2 has more to offer the side. Also, whats the point of taking Cook on loan if we don't use him. Of all the recent loan signings he's the only one that looks like he might improve things a little.
  • nolly
    nolly Posts: 12,122
    true jimmy,but i think buying some hard tackling midfielders in the mould of lee bowyer was needed.
  • northstandsteve
    northstandsteve Posts: 14,332
    we aint that good moo2 had a couple of decent games then was shite,same as halford.What does that tell us about Pards.
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,661
    [cite]Posted By: northstandsteve[/cite]I agree Len mid table premier league any day.I disagree about Youga and i sat close to the pitch today,Holland tried but was bloody awful,ZZ was streets the best Charlton player by a mile

    I'm a fan of ZZ Steve but thought he went missing a bit today. He's been great over the season though so he's allowed a bad game.
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,756
    [cite]Posted By: nolly[/cite]true jimmy,but i think buying some hard tackling midfielders in the mould of lee bowyer was needed.

    I agree but I still think it comes down to motivation.

    Bowyer and even Pélé without motivation would have been crap.
  • northstandsteve
    northstandsteve Posts: 14,332
    i'll have to agree to dis-agree as in the first half he was head and shoulders above everyone else.I agree with Holland's attitude but i thought he was pony.One thing i think we would agree on is that Kish is three times the player than half of these.
  • kmem4
    kmem4 Posts: 221
    The problem is 5 loan players in a charlton side with no passion and dont really care about the team plus youga and gray who have not been with us that long,so out of the squad for todays game 7 of the players are all pretty new. May be to many new players is the problem? Anyway still going ipswich and bring on the playoff?

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  • northstandsteve
    northstandsteve Posts: 14,332
    want play off the conference? coz we aint goin to be in any play offs
  • ct_addick
    ct_addick Posts: 4,338
    [cite]Posted By: nolly[/cite]true jimmy,but i think buying some hard tackling midfielders in the mould of lee bowyer was needed.

    Absolutely agree with you there.....I've been crying out that we need a mdifield dynamo....
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,856
    Not sure i fully buy the passion argument.

    Like anything wrong with you nowadays, doctor will tell you its a virus. Seems to be the same with football. Every bad spell or performance, the players passion gets questioned.

    There has been plenty of shite over the years, but the lack of passion blaming has only come along in recent years. Sometimes players have bad spells and bad performances, and boy was today one of them.
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,488
    The only two players to perform for the 90 were Holland and Paddy, some of the rest tried in spells. What really worries me is the fact that Varney went off at halftime, he looked up for it as well, I hope he was injured!
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,580
    [quote][cite]Posted By: LenGlover[/cite]

    I'm a fan of ZZ Steve but thought he went missing a bit today. He's been great over the season though so he's allowed a bad game.[/quote]

    Not reaslly the time of the season to rest players but I would ot mind ZZ missing out on the trip to Burnley tomorrow, he was spasmodic between great and rubbish today
  • leftbehind
    leftbehind Posts: 8,581
    had enough
  • pete_tong1
    pete_tong1 Posts: 2,653
    Yeah and Cook was suppose to replace Reid what a Fecking joke.
  • Ledge
    Ledge Posts: 7,179
    Halford is a one trick pony and got through pro football with a long throw and an aimless long ball.

    As for sinclair - give the guy a chance he has something because mourinho and grant play him so he must have something. He hardly got a ball passed to him in the 1st half.

    Shockig performance today
  • matt896
    matt896 Posts: 557
    ambrose should play in the middle!!!!!!!!!!!!its not that hard pardew
  • WhenIwasLittleBoy
    WhenIwasLittleBoy Posts: 5,430
    ambrose was once again awful does he ever practice corners on training he tried so hard today his shorts weren't even dirty apart from holland weaver and paddy the rest couldn't wait to leg it down the tunnel they could not give a toss for the shirt apart from the three mentioned

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  • Salad
    Salad Posts: 10,189
    ambrose is one of our best players and can be decent out wide as he has shown in many games recently, but we had a shocking hoofing defence and a team bereft of confidence

    might be time to try diamond formation with Ambrose at the front and Semedo at the back of it.
  • nolly
    nolly Posts: 12,122
    ambrose has many good games to outweigh the bad like holland,bet some of the others just churn out crap full stop.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,962
    edited March 2008
    We're not playing the ball out of defence, when we get the opportunity to do so ......

    We've got good 1st touch and tidy passing players in our midfield, but frequently they are being bypassed by lumping the ball over their heads. It all smacks of anxiety and not wanting posession.

    When we were playing well in January and won 3 League home games on the trot, there was Magic passing the ball calmly out of defence to feet.

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