The football's back... Welling vs Charlton 11/7/2015
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In training he is definitely seen as part of the 1st team set up. I am guessing that he is seen as the 4th striker for this season. That is the Roland way.uie2 said:I think it's gonna be Karlan Ahearn-Grants year this year! More first team starts more goals from a very exciting young striker!!
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Golfie mate, when even Colin thinks you're talking shite it's time to re-evaluategolfaddick said:So, lets get this right. The players have had 2 months off & been back in training for a week or so, and JJ, Moussa and the giant striker are already injured or not back fit from last season. Added too that JBG couldn't;t turn up & make a 15/20 min appearance against a woeful Welling side as he played an international match 6 weeks ago Finally,Bikey, who is a contracted CAFC player and a key member of the team last season, wasn't selected, even though we have only 2 other senior centre halves om the payroll.
and you don't think we have problems............20 -
Yes it is. We lost 2-0 last year to a goal in each half...henrythecat said:
Eh? I must be getting old and my memory playing tricks. I'm sure that we won 4-1 last year with a pen in the last couple of minutes. obviously imagined that.colin1961 said:
We lost last yearGarrymanilow said:So we learned what we already knew: we have a small squad and the players we do have are good enough to beat Welling. Marvellous. Now to get some more players in
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There you go then. All the years roll into one at my age.East_Stand_Loopy said:
Yes it is. We lost 2-0 last year to a goal in each half...henrythecat said:
Eh? I must be getting old and my memory playing tricks. I'm sure that we won 4-1 last year with a pen in the last couple of minutes. obviously imagined that.colin1961 said:
We lost last yearGarrymanilow said:So we learned what we already knew: we have a small squad and the players we do have are good enough to beat Welling. Marvellous. Now to get some more players in
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Year before perhaps; with a Piggott hatrick?henrythecat said:
There you go then. All the years roll into one at my age.East_Stand_Loopy said:
Yes it is. We lost 2-0 last year to a goal in each half...henrythecat said:
Eh? I must be getting old and my memory playing tricks. I'm sure that we won 4-1 last year with a pen in the last couple of minutes. obviously imagined that.colin1961 said:
We lost last yearGarrymanilow said:So we learned what we already knew: we have a small squad and the players we do have are good enough to beat Welling. Marvellous. Now to get some more players in
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Igor was sat about 5 seats to my right in the old stand. Hate to say when he got up he looked as if he was walking with a limp.
I can also confirm that his missus (assume it was as she was sitting with him and had a shiny new wedding ring) is gorgeous....2 -
Mrs Vetokele is a bit special. Instagram is a beautiful thing.GD78 said:Igor was sat about 5 seats to my right in the old stand. Hate to say when he got up he looked as if he was walking with a limp.
I can also confirm that his missus (assume it was as she was sitting with him and had a shiny new wedding ring) is gorgeous....
...good finishes from KAG today.1 -
That's the one. Wonder where that missing year went.LuckyReds said:
Year before perhaps; with a Piggott hatrick?henrythecat said:
There you go then. All the years roll into one at my age.East_Stand_Loopy said:
Yes it is. We lost 2-0 last year to a goal in each half...henrythecat said:
Eh? I must be getting old and my memory playing tricks. I'm sure that we won 4-1 last year with a pen in the last couple of minutes. obviously imagined that.colin1961 said:
We lost last yearGarrymanilow said:So we learned what we already knew: we have a small squad and the players we do have are good enough to beat Welling. Marvellous. Now to get some more players in
Back to today... I learnt that our first team can beat Welling and most of the kids aren't good enough at the moment to be near the first team. Also, Piggott is not the solution to our lack of forwards. Other than that, not much else. I didn't understand the split between 1st team in first half and youngsters in the second. Made the 2nd half really dull and not sure what Guy learnt from it.2 -
Is Kag that much improved?0
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He looked sharp. But it was against an almost static Welling defence.razil said:Is Kag that much improved?
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Igor has had only 2 weeks off during the close season (to get married) The rest of time was rehab on his Achilles.GD78 said:Igor was sat about 5 seats to my right in the old stand. Hate to say when he got up he looked as if he was walking with a limp.
I can also confirm that his missus (assume it was as she was sitting with him and had a shiny new wedding ring) is gorgeous....0 -
must be, as he didnt feature at the end of last season when we were safe, but Luzon played Church & Co instead.razil said:Is Kag that much improved?
Bonkers..........
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Indeed but Church gone, others injured..0
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Don't you think it's peculiar that Ahearne-Grant, a rookie, scored twice in the first six minutes - and for the remaining 39 in the first half, with all the experienced professionals around, we reverted to type?
An example: Wiggins receives possession from a short corner on the left: standing still, tempting the Welling defender to commit. A good player would skin him - or pass and move inside the box. Our players, by default, pass back to a vacant midfield, and then to the defence - to make exactly the same mistakes again.
These are hospital passes: possession squandered by lack of ability. For our readers and correspondents who weren't at Park View Road this afternoon, may I tell you about the second half?
Our reserves, brought up in the hothouse academy of Sparrows Lane, can't attack. When Callum Harriott switches wings and receives his own misplaced intentions, you now understand why a team three divisions below us scythes through, cracks the bar, and Pope makes desperate, last-ditch saves.
Sho-Shilva, Kennedy, Joe Piggott: they advance and make the wrong decisions. They pass wide without the skills to trap, cross, move inside, and receive. Thousands of others at The Valley every week look at our first-team players and laugh at precisely the same failings.
We need proper players. Not try-outs from the Belgian backwaters. Not ex-Premiership names hired for half a season to shore a creaking defence. Nor an undiscovered starlet signed by a pair of 30-year-old scouts, staring at videos in an office next to an airport.
QPR first, then Derby away - then Hull at home. Our players are children. Don't you think it's about bloody time Charlton bought some good players and had a serious go at promotion?
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I wonder how much correlation there is between the welling result/performance and how well we've done in the following season? My guess would be "fuck all".16
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Peak Viewfinder achieved. *bows deferentially*4
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I really hope so, I thought he did well, if he could have a good preseason, push himself forward as a 4th choice striker this season, ( or better) score 5 goals or more then he will have done really well.uie2 said:I think it's gonna be Karlan Ahearn-Grants year this year! More first team starts more goals from a very exciting young striker!!
Saying that I saw Joe Pigott bang in a hat trick v welling, playing alongside Kermorgant, I waxed lyrical about him, thinking he was going to have a great season, you just never know ,who is going to break through.
If you'd have said to me 12 months ago that Gomez would have become a first team regular, and get shipped off to Liverpool at the end of the season , I would have said really?
Just realised , I put my thoughts on the wrong thread, I think it must be the sun yesterday!
Really enjoyed the 1st half, as soon as I heard the line up for the 2nd half hoped it would be all right, but felt a bit short changed, as it was pricey to get in.
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Apologies if this has been mentioned and I've missed it. Apparently for the first time Charlton asked to share the gate money for the Welling game yesterday. This has traditionally been a money spinner for welling that pretty much finances their upcoming season. If true (I read it on another Charlton forum so have no reason to doubt it) this is a bit unnecessary and classless by Charlton.10
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Well at 15 quid a pop I'm not surprised, maybe we thought Welling were taking the piss seeing as 90% of the crowd was Charlton fans anyway, and decided 16k would be handy to have, I mean it's probably most of KAG's or THD's wages for this season4
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Nice that the people on that bus would have seen the first goal. That's my only reflection on the game.6
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Thought Alex Kelly looked a good player in an otherwise drab second half. Confident on the ball, intelligent movement. Most of our attacks started with him finding some space and making a good pass.2
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I know Charlton are nicknamed trainspotters, but it was pretty incredible how many buses go past Wellings ground, must have been one a minute, seemed like every bus in London went there, I guess it shows how dull the 2nd half was.Uboat said:Nice that the people on that bus would have seen the first goal. That's my only reflection on the game.
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This thread has so many Fails.1
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Bit shocking if that's true, totally unnecessarySillybilly said:Apologies if this has been mentioned and I've missed it. Apparently for the first time Charlton asked to share the gate money for the Welling game yesterday. This has traditionally been a money spinner for welling that pretty much finances their upcoming season. If true (I read it on another Charlton forum so have no reason to doubt it) this is a bit unnecessary and classless by Charlton.
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I'm inclined to agree with this.sam3110 said:Well at 15 quid a pop I'm not surprised, maybe we thought Welling were taking the piss seeing as 90% of the crowd was Charlton fans anyway, and decided 16k would be handy to have, I mean it's probably most of KAG's or THD's wages for this season
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