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The football's back... Welling vs Charlton 11/7/2015

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  • henrythecat
    henrythecat Posts: 479
    Viewfinder said:

    Don't you think it's peculiar that Ahearne-Grant, a rookie, scored twice in the first six minutes - and for the remaining 39 in the first half, with all the experienced professionals around, we reverted to type?

    QPR first, then Derby away - then Hull at home. Our players are children. Don't you think it's about bloody time Charlton bought some good players and had a serious go at promotion?

    From what I have been told, that is unlikely. We are still working to the unearthing a hidden (and cheap) diamond rather than paying for known ability at the going rate.
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  • Sillybilly
    Sillybilly Posts: 9,236
    colin1961 said:

    Sorry guys but untrue I was speaking to Barrie Hobbins week ago and for the first time Charlton asked for 3000 to send a team to play at welling but still gave welling full gate money , programme , food and drink
    Barrie Hobbins was more then happy as he said we made a lot of money out of Charlton in the past and will make around 40k profit from the game yesterday
    West Ham who are not sending any first team players at all I a few weeks have asked half of everything to send a team ..

    Thanks. I'm rather pleased that this wasn't true.
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,609
    colin1961 said:

    Sorry guys but untrue I was speaking to Barrie Hobbins week ago and for the first time Charlton asked for 3000 to send a team to play at welling but still gave welling full gate money , programme , food and drink
    Barrie Hobbins was more then happy as he said we made a lot of money out of Charlton in the past and will make around 40k profit from the game yesterday
    West Ham who are not sending any first team players at all I a few weeks have asked half of everything to send a team ..

    To be fair to West Ham, they're going to need all the money they can get to pay the extortionate rent at their new home.
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,001
    henrythecat said:

    Viewfinder said:

    Don't you think it's peculiar that Ahearne-Grant, a rookie, scored twice in the first six minutes - and for the remaining 39 in the first half, with all the experienced professionals around, we reverted to type?

    QPR first, then Derby away - then Hull at home. Our players are children. Don't you think it's about bloody time Charlton bought some good players and had a serious go at promotion?

    From what I have been told, that is unlikely. We are still working to the unearthing a hidden (and cheap) diamond rather than paying for known ability at the going rate.
    Then sell them before they can have an impact on the first team
  • Granpa
    Granpa Posts: 2,995
    Jordan looked terrific in the middle, and looks like a future captain to me. Great through ball to KAG for the first goal followed by an excellent finish. Regan Charles-Cook had one of the debuts I have seen, And Bauer was very solid in the middle with Diarra. The way we played in the first half was very encouraging, the second half was the opposite.
  • lancashire lad
    lancashire lad Posts: 15,631
    was KM there?
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,745
    edited July 2015
    colin1961 said:

    Sorry guys but untrue I was speaking to Barrie Hobbins week ago and for the first time Charlton asked for 3000 to send a team to play at welling but still gave welling full gate money , programme , food and drink
    Barrie Hobbins was more then happy as he said we made a lot of money out of Charlton in the past and will make around 40k profit from the game yesterday
    West Ham who are not sending any first team players at all I a few weeks have asked half of everything to send a team ..

    I wonder if you have ever heard of VAT. If the gate was 2,100 (and it didn't look much more), the receipts including cost of sale (printing, staffing, supplies) would need to be about £60k for Welling to make a profit of £40k (allowing the £3k you mention). Even if there was some sponsorship or advertising revenue generated, which would be fairly trivial but let's say there was £5k, that's an average spend of about £26 per person - including kids and pensioners. In the real world it would be about half that.
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  • dickplumb
    dickplumb Posts: 4,835
    colin1961 said:

    That is what the owner of Welling said but he said it a week before the game so was most likely judging the gate on previous games ......

    Barrie Hobbins is not the owner of Welling United.


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  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,200
    dickplumb said:

    colin1961 said:

    That is what the owner of Welling said but he said it a week before the game so was most likely judging the gate on previous games ......

    Barrie Hobbins is not the owner of Welling United.

    I like that phrase and am going to get it printed on a t-shirt.
  • falconwood_1
    falconwood_1 Posts: 7,368
    colin1961 said:

    Sorry guys but untrue I was speaking to Barrie Hobbins week ago and for the first time Charlton asked for 3000 to send a team to play at welling but still gave welling full gate money , programme , food and drink
    Barrie Hobbins was more then happy as he said we made a lot of money out of Charlton in the past and will make around 40k profit from the game yesterday
    West Ham who are not sending any first team players at all I a few weeks have asked half of everything to send a team ..

    Not £40 grand profit at all, but rest is correct.

    Welling are genuinely massively grateful to the club for their constant support of the friendly.

    Judging by the youngsters queueing for selfies with Tony Watt and Big Simon, it's a very good local PR exercise also.

    As my eldest son said it's one of the very few occasions you can get easy access to the players.

    As a footnote, the staff at Charlton behind the scenes were a class act towards Welling.

  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,987
    dickplumb said:

    colin1961 said:

    That is what the owner of Welling said but he said it a week before the game so was most likely judging the gate on previous games ......

    Barrie Hobbins is not the owner of Welling United.

    Sounds like a JRR Tolkein character
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,794
    crookester said:

    I wonder how much correlation there is between the welling result/performance and how well we've done in the following season? My guess would be "fuck all".

    Last July we lost 2-0. Finished 12th in T2.

    In 2013, we won 5-0. Finished 18th in T2.
    In 2012, we won 4-0. Finished 9th in T2.
    In 2011, we won 3-0. Finished 1st in T3.
    In 2010, we won 1-0. Finished 13th in T3.
    In 2009, we drew 1-1. Finished 4th in T3.
    In 2008, we won 1-0. Finished 24th in T2.
    In 2007, we won 2-0. Finished 11th in T2.
    In 2006, we lost 1-0. Finished 19th in T1.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,461
    IdleHans said:

    ValleyGary said:

    dickplumb said:

    colin1961 said:

    That is what the owner of Welling said but he said it a week before the game so was most likely judging the gate on previous games ......

    Barrie Hobbins is not the owner of Welling United.

    Sounds like a JRR Tolkein character
    Lord of the Wings
    Roy Hodgson's favourite film or so I've heard
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,023
    Interview with Damian Matthew here.
    It's worth a read, especially for those, that don't understand, what a pre season friendly is for :smile:

    http://www.cafc.co.uk/news/article/charlton-welling-damian-matthew-reaction-2541012.aspx
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,987
    IdleHans said:

    ValleyGary said:

    dickplumb said:

    colin1961 said:

    That is what the owner of Welling said but he said it a week before the game so was most likely judging the gate on previous games ......

    Barrie Hobbins is not the owner of Welling United.

    Sounds like a JRR Tolkein character
    Lord of the Wings
    Superb!
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,651
    edited July 2015
    Covered End said:

    Interview with Damian Matthew here.
    It's worth a read, especially for those, that don't understand, what a pre season friendly is for :smile:

    http://www.cafc.co.uk/news/article/charlton-welling-damian-matthew-reaction-2541012.aspx

    I was under the impression that pre-season games are to get the players match fit again after they have spent 2 months not playing, and to also help intergrate new members of the squad and to get them playing together in a cohesive unit - and not turn up on the first day of the season with your front 2 not knowing each other (ala Wanchope & Goater for Man City in the infamous 4-0 drubbing we gave them in Aug 2000)

    This is why it makes sense you get your signings in early & not wait until Aug 31st when the transfer window ends.......in the same way as the "released" players know in late May. I wasn't too bothered that we hadn't sign many by now, but I wouid hope that by the time we play West Ham in 2 weeks time that we have signed another 6 or 7 players, otherwise I don't think too many on here will be happy our youth team getting mullered if W Ham bring a strong squad with them.
  • iainambler
    iainambler Posts: 963
    henrythecat said:

    Viewfinder said:

    Don't you think it's peculiar that Ahearne-Grant, a rookie, scored twice in the first six minutes - and for the remaining 39 in the first half, with all the experienced professionals around, we reverted to type?

    QPR first, then Derby away - then Hull at home. Our players are children. Don't you think it's about bloody time Charlton bought some good players and had a serious go at promotion?

    From what I have been told, that is unlikely. We are still working to the unearthing a hidden (and cheap) diamond rather than paying for known ability at the going rate.
    You mean cheap Academy diamonds like Diego Poyet and Joe Gomez? When we unearth them all we do is sell them on!

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  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,005
    iainambler said:

    henrythecat said:

    Viewfinder said:

    Don't you think it's peculiar that Ahearne-Grant, a rookie, scored twice in the first six minutes - and for the remaining 39 in the first half, with all the experienced professionals around, we reverted to type?

    QPR first, then Derby away - then Hull at home. Our players are children. Don't you think it's about bloody time Charlton bought some good players and had a serious go at promotion?

    From what I have been told, that is unlikely. We are still working to the unearthing a hidden (and cheap) diamond rather than paying for known ability at the going rate.
    You mean cheap Academy diamonds like Diego Poyet and Joe Gomez? When we unearth them all we do is sell them on!
    iainambler said:

    henrythecat said:

    Viewfinder said:

    Don't you think it's peculiar that Ahearne-Grant, a rookie, scored twice in the first six minutes - and for the remaining 39 in the first half, with all the experienced professionals around, we reverted to type?

    QPR first, then Derby away - then Hull at home. Our players are children. Don't you think it's about bloody time Charlton bought some good players and had a serious go at promotion?

    From what I have been told, that is unlikely. We are still working to the unearthing a hidden (and cheap) diamond rather than paying for known ability at the going rate.
    You mean cheap Academy diamonds like Diego Poyet and Joe Gomez? When we unearth them all we do is sell them on!
    As we have since... well, always. I mean seriously. Jenkinson, Parker, Bowyer... we've always been a selling club in that sense. If Solly had two working knees week in week out he'd have gone too I am sure. It's not a new thing.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,023
    edited July 2015
    http://www.cafc.co.uk/news/article/charlton-welling-damian-matthew-reaction-2541012.aspx
    golfaddick said:

    Well, what a joke that was. I've never been to a pre-season at Welling to find so few first teamers..........even the 1st half team (which I assume was supposed to be a first 11) had Wiggins out of position, filling in because we have no wide men. Where were JJ, JBG, Vetokele, Bikey and the new "giant" up front ?? As for the 2nd half side - calling it a CAFC 11 would be a disservice. With the usual v.poor team announcer we had no idea who was who, apart from Piggott & Harriott - but that was mainly down to their usual in-effectiveness. What a waste of time & money and now I am really fearing the season ahead.

    All I can say is that if RD wants to go down the route of playing the youth to sell on the occasional nugget then I wont go to PVR to watch a pre-season game anymore .........I'll just wait until we are playing there in a non-league game.

  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,023
    edited July 2015
    Changed your tune a bit golfie ?
    golfaddick said:

    Covered End said:

    Interview with Damian Matthew here.
    It's worth a read, especially for those, that don't understand, what a pre season friendly is for :smile:

    http://www.cafc.co.uk/news/article/charlton-welling-damian-matthew-reaction-2541012.aspx

    I wasn't too bothered that we hadn't sign many by now, but I wouid hope that by the time we play West Ham in 2 weeks time that we have signed another 6 or 7 players, otherwise I don't think too many on here will be happy our youth team getting mullered if W Ham bring a strong squad with them.
  • falconwood_1
    falconwood_1 Posts: 7,368
    I heard they are looking to bring in two Centre halves this week.

    Although I hope they don't just to keep Golfie so perky and full of life.
  • kinveachyaddick
    kinveachyaddick Posts: 3,875
    falconwood_1 said:

    colin1961 said:

    Sorry guys but untrue I was speaking to Barrie Hobbins week ago and for the first time Charlton asked for 3000 to send a team to play at welling but still gave welling full gate money , programme , food and drink
    Barrie Hobbins was more then happy as he said we made a lot of money out of Charlton in the past and will make around 40k profit from the game yesterday
    West Ham who are not sending any first team players at all I a few weeks have asked half of everything to send a team ..

    Not £40 grand profit at all, but rest is correct.

    Welling are genuinely massively grateful to the club for their constant support of the friendly.

    Judging by the youngsters queueing for selfies with Tony Watt and Big Simon, it's a very good local PR exercise also.

    As my eldest son said it's one of the very few occasions you can get easy access to the players.

    As a footnote, the staff at Charlton behind the scenes were a class act towards Welling.

    Good to hear and proof that the club is not quite the PR disaster under Roland/Katrien that some would have us believe...
  • falconwood_1
    falconwood_1 Posts: 7,368
    kinveachyaddick said:

    falconwood_1 said:

    colin1961 said:

    Sorry guys but untrue I was speaking to Barrie Hobbins week ago and for the first time Charlton asked for 3000 to send a team to play at welling but still gave welling full gate money , programme , food and drink
    Barrie Hobbins was more then happy as he said we made a lot of money out of Charlton in the past and will make around 40k profit from the game yesterday
    West Ham who are not sending any first team players at all I a few weeks have asked half of everything to send a team ..

    Not £40 grand profit at all, but rest is correct.

    Welling are genuinely massively grateful to the club for their constant support of the friendly.

    Judging by the youngsters queueing for selfies with Tony Watt and Big Simon, it's a very good local PR exercise also.

    As my eldest son said it's one of the very few occasions you can get easy access to the players.

    As a footnote, the staff at Charlton behind the scenes were a class act towards Welling.

    Good to hear and proof that the club is not quite the PR disaster under Roland/Katrien that some would have us believe...
    If you saw the amount of kids wanting photos with the players plus the great way the players deal with the fans it's not all gloom and doom, but I suppose it's what part of the club people deal with personally?

  • I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY
    I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY Posts: 4,609
    Just had a thought... where was Zak Ansah?
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,651
    I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY said:

    Just had a thought... where was Zak Ansah?

    who knows.......injured along with JJ, Mousa, Vetokele & Makeinok ??? leaving, along with Bikey ?? Rested due to international football along with JBG ?? choose your excuse.
  • PL54
    PL54 Posts: 10,757
    golfaddick said:

    I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY said:

    Just had a thought... where was Zak Ansah?

    who knows.......injured along with JJ, Mousa, Vetokele & Makeinok ??? leaving, along with Bikey ?? Rested due to international football along with JBG ?? choose your excuse.
    Moan On
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,958
    golfaddick said:

    I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY said:

    Just had a thought... where was Zak Ansah?

    who knows.......injured along with JJ, Mousa, Vetokele & Makeinok ??? leaving, along with Bikey ?? Rested due to international football along with JBG ?? choose your excuse.
    Come on, Golfie ...... time for a little song:

    "If life seems jolly rotten
    There's something you've forgotten
    And that's to laugh and smile and dance and sing.
    When you're feeling in the dumps
    Don't be silly chumps
    Just purse your lips and whistle - that's the thing.

    And...always look on the bright side of life...
    Always look on the light side of life... "




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