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Henderson to miss start of season

Looks like Pope will be in goal for the start of the season as Henderson as a scan on his injured shoulder .....
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  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,987
    Fuck it.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,251
    dickplumb Member
    July 22 edited July 22
    Valley11 said:
    Has there been any indication how long Hendo will be out for?

    He went for a scan today.

    From Dr Kish

    Dagenham is the next stop on the Addicks' warm-up trail. Stephen Henderson will have a scan on Wednesday and is ruled out.

    There is better news of Rhoys Wiggins though, his foot injury is not as bad as at first feared, and he should be fit in 7-10 days.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,553
    Oh bollocks!!
  • Addicted
    Addicted Posts: 2,804
    Hmm, a bit of a worry that as our defense is looking thin and weak too. Still, I'm a fan of Pope and think it'll do him some good to play for us for a bit.

    Would have thought it'll cost us a few points though
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,498
    Dmitrovic or Pope?
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,057
    So did Henderson have the scan on Wednesday just gone and the results ruled him out of (at least) the QPR game ? Or is he due to have one next week which will determine if he can play ?
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,608
    From Dr Kish (Ketts):

    Stephen Henderson injured his shoulder during the warm-up at Dulwich Hamlet, and had a precautionary scan earlier in the week.

    Henderson has been unlucky with injuries and has had shoulder problems throughout his career.

    Normally a few weeks rest cures the problem, but sometimes a minor operation is required.

    The likelihood is that the popular Irish stopper will miss the early weeks of the campaign.

    Nick Pope seems to have established himself as Guy Luzon's preferred back-up keeper, and got praise from his boss in Belgium.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,057

    From Dr Kish (Ketts):

    Stephen Henderson injured his shoulder during the warm-up at Dulwich Hamlet, and had a precautionary scan earlier in the week.

    Henderson has been unlucky with injuries and has had shoulder problems throughout his career.

    Normally a few weeks rest cures the problem, but sometimes a minor operation is required.

    The likelihood is that the popular Irish stopper will miss the early weeks of the campaign.

    Nick Pope seems to have established himself as Guy Luzon's preferred back-up keeper, and got praise from his boss in Belgium.

    Oh dear - we went 99 days without a win when Henderson was injured last year. Makes sorting these centre backs out even more critical.
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,777
    One of my players of the season last year, do not underestimate how much we could miss him.

    I have faith in Pope however.
  • addick1965
    addick1965 Posts: 5,092
    I heard this was the case at the Dagenham game on Wednesday :(

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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,553
    Nick Pope's record for us last season...

    Two Wins (Wigan / Derby)
    Four Draws (Huddersfield / Millwall / Nottingham Forest / Blackpool)
    Two Defeats (Ipswich / Blackburn)

    That was under Bob Peeters who's Man Management skills werent the greatest it seems and based on some of the matches:

    - Huddersfield... We could easily have lost that had it not been for Pope
    - Millwall... Should have won that had it not been for George's miss in the last minute
    - Ipswich... Should have drawn that one but for a 95th minute lucky goal
    - Nottingham Forest... No one was stopping that goal and he even got finger tips to it

    We'll be fine with Nick in goal at the start of the season, never know, this could be the moment similar to when Weaver was replaced by Elliott (bar there being no Henderson howler)
  • smudge7946
    smudge7946 Posts: 4,131
    Pope has had a good pre season so far. I think he could be this seasons success story
  • He was very nervous and made some panicky clearances at Dagenham. Hendo is out for over a month
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811

    Nick Pope's record for us last season...

    Two Wins (Wigan / Derby)
    Four Draws (Huddersfield / Millwall / Nottingham Forest / Blackpool)
    Two Defeats (Ipswich / Blackburn)

    That was under Bob Peeters who's Man Management skills werent the greatest it seems and based on some of the matches:

    - Huddersfield... We could easily have lost that had it not been for Pope
    - Millwall... Should have won that had it not been for George's miss in the last minute
    - Ipswich... Should have drawn that one but for a 95th minute lucky goal
    - Nottingham Forest... No one was stopping that goal and he even got finger tips to it

    We'll be fine with Nick in goal at the start of the season, never know, this could be the moment similar to when Weaver was replaced by Elliott (bar there being no Henderson howler)

    we could easily have lost because of Pope!
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,803
    Gonna have to move Hendo on if his shoulder troubles persist.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,803

    Nick Pope's record for us last season...

    Two Wins (Wigan / Derby)
    Four Draws (Huddersfield / Millwall / Nottingham Forest / Blackpool)
    Two Defeats (Ipswich / Blackburn)

    That was under Bob Peeters who's Man Management skills werent the greatest it seems and based on some of the matches:

    - Huddersfield... We could easily have lost that had it not been for Pope
    - Millwall... Should have won that had it not been for George's miss in the last minute
    - Ipswich... Should have drawn that one but for a 95th minute lucky goal
    - Nottingham Forest... No one was stopping that goal and he even got finger tips to it

    We'll be fine with Nick in goal at the start of the season, never know, this could be the moment similar to when Weaver was replaced by Elliott (bar there being no Henderson howler)

    we could easily have lost because of Pope!
    Could we? I don't remember him being at fault for the goal.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,553

    Nick Pope's record for us last season...

    Two Wins (Wigan / Derby)
    Four Draws (Huddersfield / Millwall / Nottingham Forest / Blackpool)
    Two Defeats (Ipswich / Blackburn)

    That was under Bob Peeters who's Man Management skills werent the greatest it seems and based on some of the matches:

    - Huddersfield... We could easily have lost that had it not been for Pope
    - Millwall... Should have won that had it not been for George's miss in the last minute
    - Ipswich... Should have drawn that one but for a 95th minute lucky goal
    - Nottingham Forest... No one was stopping that goal and he even got finger tips to it

    We'll be fine with Nick in goal at the start of the season, never know, this could be the moment similar to when Weaver was replaced by Elliott (bar there being no Henderson howler)

    we could easily have lost because of Pope!
    Could we? I don't remember him being at fault for the goal.
    If its what @CAFCFan1990 is thinking its the moment the Huddersfield player went round him and it was only a block on the line that stopped the goal?

    Although wasnt that a sloppy backpass that started the incident, I cant fully remember
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811

    Nick Pope's record for us last season...

    Two Wins (Wigan / Derby)
    Four Draws (Huddersfield / Millwall / Nottingham Forest / Blackpool)
    Two Defeats (Ipswich / Blackburn)

    That was under Bob Peeters who's Man Management skills werent the greatest it seems and based on some of the matches:

    - Huddersfield... We could easily have lost that had it not been for Pope
    - Millwall... Should have won that had it not been for George's miss in the last minute
    - Ipswich... Should have drawn that one but for a 95th minute lucky goal
    - Nottingham Forest... No one was stopping that goal and he even got finger tips to it

    We'll be fine with Nick in goal at the start of the season, never know, this could be the moment similar to when Weaver was replaced by Elliott (bar there being no Henderson howler)

    we could easily have lost because of Pope!
    Could we? I don't remember him being at fault for the goal.
    I like Pope but he was very shaky that day, especially first half. Agreed not at fault for the goal and made a decent save, but still looked very uncomfortable
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    Popey's kicking against Dagenham scared me. He was using the outside of his right foot for clearances rather than swing his left at it and he almost came unstuck.

    There was another time a long ball over the top and he didn't call for it - Bauer left it for him and we were lucky that Pope spread himself and the striker was a shithouse and bottled it. Bauer and Pope at fault but we got away with it. When the Serbian came on in the second half he made a couple of good saves, I could hear him from the other end of the ground and his kicking was good.

    Pope made a couple of saves too I should add.

    There's not a lot between the two of them if you ask me but Pope doesn't try for the spectacular - his positional sense is usually good.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811

    Nick Pope's record for us last season...

    Two Wins (Wigan / Derby)
    Four Draws (Huddersfield / Millwall / Nottingham Forest / Blackpool)
    Two Defeats (Ipswich / Blackburn)

    That was under Bob Peeters who's Man Management skills werent the greatest it seems and based on some of the matches:

    - Huddersfield... We could easily have lost that had it not been for Pope
    - Millwall... Should have won that had it not been for George's miss in the last minute
    - Ipswich... Should have drawn that one but for a 95th minute lucky goal
    - Nottingham Forest... No one was stopping that goal and he even got finger tips to it

    We'll be fine with Nick in goal at the start of the season, never know, this could be the moment similar to when Weaver was replaced by Elliott (bar there being no Henderson howler)

    we could easily have lost because of Pope!
    Could we? I don't remember him being at fault for the goal.
    If its what @CAFCFan1990 is thinking its the moment the Huddersfield player went round him and it was only a block on the line that stopped the goal?

    Although wasnt that a sloppy backpass that started the incident, I cant fully remember
    thats the one, only some excellent defending from Tal Ben Haim stopped us going 1-0 down early on and he looked shaky after that. Kicking was atrocious too.

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  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 11,741
    The issue with Pope is how he deals with a mistake. Last season an error seemed to reduce him to a quivering wreck.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,231
    So the choice of goalkeeper is either Nick Pope, who can make rash choices on coming off his line, or Marko who likes to stay on his line.
    The crowd really need to give 100% backing to whoever gets the nod.
    The 1st month was going to be hard enough as it was.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,482
    Pope was a nightmare last season when he played, there's various excuses that can be given but he wasn't good enough.

    Lets hope this season he's improved, willing to give him a fresh start following his loan out.
  • I like Pope but the Dagenham game showed me he's still the same and just don't think he's ready for this league. Seemed he was more nervous with the senior players in front of him then when he started the second half with the youth players.
  • Paddy7
    Paddy7 Posts: 1,663
    Big setback but a chance for one of he others to shine. Pope apparently has so much ability but needs to toughen up mentally. An experienced CB to help nurture him would be great but the biggest boost could come from us. Who ever starts needs our absolute backing at KO.
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,777
    Paddy7 said:

    Who ever starts needs our absolute backing at KO.

    Yes please, and if he makes a mistake in that game it would be nice if we kept on encouraging him instead of moaning and shouting obscenities.

    Doubt that will happen though.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,369
    edited July 2015
    not again .. f f s .. Pope needs to improve rapidly on his last season performances if we are to get off to a confident start.. Henderson's bad shoulder sounds like the injury that plagued Bryan Robson .. but is even worse for a goalkeeper
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,057

    Pope was a nightmare last season when he played, there's various excuses that can be given but he wasn't good enough.

    Lets hope this season he's improved, willing to give him a fresh start following his loan out.

    "Nightmare" is a bit harsh - he's a young 'keeper who, really, should be out on loan picking up experience in the lower leagues. Because we only have one experienced goal keeper it looks like he's now going to get some of that experience against QPR, Derby & Forest !
  • Madz
    Madz Posts: 1,004
    edited July 2015
    Pope just needs confidence. He made a couple of errors, but he is still learning. I think he has a bright future as a keeper with us, but he needs to gain confidence. hopefully good communication with his defence will help.

    Wonder why Dmitrovic is not being mentioned?
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,002
    Pope looks nervy to me whenever Ive seen him play. Perhaps the new gk coach will have a positive effect on him.